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post #81 of 111
2/21/12 at 10:57am
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So one of you wants dual-core Cortex-A15 and the other doesn't want dual-core? I don't think I've read anything that suggests it will dual-core or that Cortex-A15 is ready.

Samsung has its Dual Core Exynos 5250 Cortex A15 chips ready.

I doubt that Apple has a contract with them yet.

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post #82 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:02am
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Samsung has its Dual Core Exynos 5250 Cortex A15 chips ready.

I doubt that Apple has a contract with them yet.

The only began sampling a couple weeks ago. Mass production (as in ready) won't be until Q2. It's unlikely Apple have been able to get 5-8 million per month for the last 2 months.

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post #83 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:11am
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Slurpy is not Slapppy. I feel bad for Slurpy.

For the record, I never ever confused Slurpy and slappy, though he may have thought I did in another thread. I hope he re-read that post.

Slurpy is one of my favorite tough logicians around here, always amusing besides.

slappy was amusing, but for the wrong reasons.
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post #84 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:16am
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You remind me of 'Cowboy X' from Sesame Street years ago... riding into town here, weilding your 'troll' branding iron and wildly stamping everyones post.

I think we would be hard pressed to find anyone here you havent branded 'troll'.
So allow me to be the character who tells you that our community here doesnt appreciate it.

Chill dude.

When you're old enough to stop watching Sesame Street, then I'll consider your comments.

An android poster drives-by with yet another "iPad doesn't spec up to an Android tablet", I ask that he back up his beliefs, and he's conveniently quiet.

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post #85 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:19am
The really need to put two 1080p cameras on the back so it will shoot in 3D.
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post #86 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:24am
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I see that camera as a waste of money! Honestly there are only a few people using it and in most cases the usage is odd. Worst is the idea that it costs Apple nothing to install the camera. I'd rather see the cost of the camera applied to something worthwhile.


Yeah but is it really worthwhile to keep the monkeys supplied with bananas? Feed them once and they will keep coming back for another and another. Better to go cold turkey and make these users fend for themselves.

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I have found that taking pictures with the iPad is actually easier and better than the iPhone.

The reason is the on-screen software button, which one's hands often go through convulsions to access on the iPhone, whereas on the iPad it's easy to reach and right under your finger (when holding the iPad in landscape mode). It's arguably nicer to have the gigantic viewfinder also. In fact digital cameras used to be sold partially on the size of the screen on the back so it makes little sense that we now decry the iPad for the same reason we praised the previous cameras.

I don't have any evidence, but I kind of think that the only reason people *wouldn't* like the iPad as a camera is the fear of ridicule while using it.

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post #87 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:25am
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The really need to put two 1080p cameras on the back so it will shoot in 3D.

iPad 3D
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post #88 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:33am
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The really need to put two 1080p cameras on the back so it will shoot in 3D.

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iPad 3D

Later on this year. Or next year, guaranteed.
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post #89 of 111
2/21/12 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

So one of you wants dual-core Cortex-A15 and the other doesn't want dual-core? I don't think I've read anything that suggests it will dual-core or that Cortex-A15 is ready.

This news seems more realistic than others. Better camera and Siri was about all I expected from the iPad 3. I could never see a Retina display and LTE. Apple always keeps an even balance to maintain battery life on all their products.

I feel my iPad 2 is perfect I don't see any reason to upgrade at this point.
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post #90 of 111
2/21/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

This news seems more realistic than others. Better camera and Siri was about all I expected from the iPad 3. I could never see a Retina display and LTE. Apple always keeps an even balance to maintain battery life on all their products.

I feel my iPad 2 is perfect I don't see any reason to upgrade at this point.

I agree that from a technical standpoint it would seem difficult to maintain the same battery life and price point over the iPad 2 but I'm thinking the Retina Display is coming because the supposed leaked photos are showing it to be slightly thicker and there just seems to be too much evidence supporting it.

Also, Mac Rumors has apparently used a microscope on the display not just been sent pics that show the 4x pixel density, but that could just be a prototype and not something that is feasible for 5-8 millions units a month. Surely those most against the HiDPI display at least assume Apple is experimenting with these panels.

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post #91 of 111
2/21/12 at 12:42pm
Going to wait until the Windows 8 tablets are released later this year before making a decision. It will come down to usability and apps. Since I run a Windows Media Center server at home, I may have to get a W8 tablet for compatibility.
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post #92 of 111
2/21/12 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

So one of you wants dual-core Cortex-A15 and the other doesn't want dual-core? I don't think I've read anything that suggests it will dual-core or that Cortex-A15 is ready.

Yes you did, you read this article, didn't you?

To me, Apple A5X could easily be Apple's re-branding of the Cortex A15.

15, 5X, X5....catch my drift?
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post #93 of 111
2/21/12 at 1:33pm
If the FaceTime camera does not see improvement, I will be very disappointed. The front camera on any tablet device, particularly the iPad, is 1000x more important than the back camera.
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post #94 of 111
2/21/12 at 1:33pm
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The iPad 3 will also have a purple monkey dishwasher.

I think you meant Gasoline Powered Purple Monkey Dishwasher.
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post #95 of 111
2/21/12 at 1:35pm
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Yes you did, you read this article, didn't you?

To me, Apple A5X could easily be Apple's re-branding of the Cortex A15.

15, 5X, X5....catch my drift?

I'm not seeing that numerical correlation as being the most likely. And while Apple does have some pull in getting chips produced faster than others those being A15-based in the quantity needed seems unlike for a March release. Now if we say an April release that month certainly starts sounding more realistic. Personally I'm leaning toward what others have said about this A) either being a placeholder or B) the X referring to 2xfor the CPU, and possibly the RAM and GPU (if not 4x like Wizard69 suggests).

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post #96 of 111
2/21/12 at 1:56pm
This rumor strikes me as pretty dubious. I could see someone in the supply chain outing a component here and their, but how does that same person get to "will have Siri"? We're seeing pictures of bits and pieces, not finished iPads, and how likely is it that iPads coming off the line are getting booted up and having their apps used, outside of the tightest possible security?

Honestly, this is one of those rumors that reads more like a compendium of earlier rumors than any insider knowledge-- is there anyone posting here that couldn't have come up with a similar list?
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post #97 of 111
2/21/12 at 2:34pm
Well I want retina/LTE/better CPU/GPU and it looks I'm getting it. A5X to me means a faster clock A5 with a new GPU Wichita is great. GPU is where e performance needs to be and as a jail breaker continuing in the A5 family means pretty fast jailbreak for iOS 5.1 iPad 3. A5 beats tegra 3 handily meaning a higher clock with a new GPU will crush tegra 3 quadcore.

More ram and a 8m camera will be good but is not a deal breaker for me...

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post #98 of 111
2/21/12 at 2:41pm
All I want is 1GB of RAM. I'd wish for 2GB but I don't want to be disappointed.

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post #99 of 111
2/21/12 at 2:50pm
If the new ipad has only one new feature, and it is a retina display i'll be getting one... reading ibooks on a retina display will be awesome!
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post #100 of 111
2/21/12 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by applecider View Post

For instance how about being able to import compact flash cards directly? No one seems to focus on these potential changes to the next iPad, which would be as good as a multicore processor.

You can already plug in compact flashcards into the iPad...

http://store.micgadget.com/card-read...ction-kit.html
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post #101 of 111
2/21/12 at 3:29pm
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All I want is 1GB of RAM. I'd wish for 2GB but I don't want to be disappointed.

I would think if they go with a Retina display of some sort, they'd have to increase the RAM amount to accommodate the extra resources (outside of the GPU) that the extra real-estate is going to require.

I'm hoping they do too.
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post #102 of 111
2/21/12 at 8:34pm
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

I'm not seeing that numerical correlation as being the most likely. And while Apple does have some pull in getting chips produced faster than others those being A15-based in the quantity needed seems unlike for a March release. Now if we say an April release that month certainly starts sounding more realistic. Personally I'm leaning toward what others have said about this A) either being a placeholder or B) the X referring to 2xfor the CPU, and possibly the RAM and GPU (if not 4x like Wizard69 suggests).

I know, that is the more likely, but only because we're under the impression that Cortex A15 isn't available yet.

Its probably the simplest explanation. Its a double A5 (quad core A5), double the RAM (1 GB), double the GPU performance, to drive double the resolution. I'll add to that "double" the battery performance, to achieve the same 10 hours of battery life, given the added demands.

Does make a lot of sense. Apple-esque.
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post #103 of 111
2/21/12 at 10:55pm
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A little disappointed in the dual core processer, when Android tabs are starting to ship with Tegra 3 quad core processors.

That's because the Android tablet seriously needs a big horse to carry the fat woman rider. In the end the Apple design that sips power and runs rings around the quad core Android mashup will be the winner. Fear not, young grasshopper.
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post #104 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:02pm
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If the FaceTime camera does not see improvement, I will be very disappointed. The front camera on any tablet device, particularly the iPad, is 1000x more important than the back camera.

The amount of data pushed through a wire is a limiting factor. The current FaceTime camera may collect only as much data as the throughput of the communication system can handle. So, I don't expect to see a change here.
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post #105 of 111
2/21/12 at 11:06pm
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Going to wait until the Windows 8 tablets are released later this year before making a decision. It will come down to usability and apps. Since I run a Windows Media Center server at home, I may have to get a W8 tablet for compatibility.

Awwww... dat's too bad... I understand WM8 will have a good dozen or so apps when it ships, or at least they will be giving you a promise of them "shipping soon."
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post #106 of 111
2/22/12 at 2:29am
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

Awwww... dat's too bad... I understand WM8 will have a good dozen or so apps when it ships, or at least they will be giving you a promise of them "shipping soon."

This will largely depend on if Windows 8 tablet has more in common with Windows Phone 8 or Windows 8 PC.

If MSFT brings Windows 8 tablet to market with the full arsenal of Windows PC applications
with close ties to Windows Phone 8's ecosystem, it will get interesting fast.

Though, this will be more of an issue for android than Apple.
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post #107 of 111
2/22/12 at 10:01pm
Here is a test of a dual-core Cortex-A15 v. quad-core Cortex-A9.

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post #108 of 111
2/23/12 at 4:34am
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When you're old enough to stop watching Sesame Street, then I'll consider your comments.

An android poster drives-by with yet another "iPad doesn't spec up to an Android tablet", I ask that he back up his beliefs, and he's conveniently quiet.

I call trolls as I see them. There are quite a few infesting this forum, and I'll continue outing them.

Maybe he just did not connect back... I usually read the comment threads once, and then I'm done with it.

I'm not saying you're wrong or right, mind you, I'd have to know if said guy really is a troll and study your own posts, which I haven't go the wish/time to do. I however do agree that if said guy was not trolling but just says what he thinks (and I can tell you I have friends who think that way, and put their money where their mouth is), then your comment was un-nice.

My two cents.

By the way, last iOS update made iPad 2 horribly slow. I hope this is solved fast, it is no-so-cool, especially in iBooks that now takes AGES to open a freaking iBook... yeah I know it's unrelated, just needed to vent out...

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post #109 of 111
2/24/12 at 5:58am
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Originally Posted by mausz View Post

Let's hope it's A15 core based... see A15 dual core benchmarks combined with the current PowerVR

What are the chances that The A5X chip if that is the real chip will be ARM A15 based??
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post #110 of 111
2/24/12 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by id4nnyzz View Post

What are the chances that The A5X chip if that is the real chip will be ARM A15 based??

Zero, I think, but I haven't been following this very closely.
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post #111 of 111
2/24/12 at 7:58am
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Zero, I think, but I haven't been following this very closely.

I don't know of anyone who has dual-core Cortex-A15-based products coming out in March or April. It doesn't appear to be ready until the latter half of the year, in time for the sixth-gen iPhone. Even quad-core Cortex-A9 is looking like a tight fit but I think Apple can pull it off.

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