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'iPad 3' rumored to launch in Germany on March 23

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With Apple expected to unveil its next-generation iPad in early March, a new rumor suggests that the device will launch in Germany only a few weeks later, on March 23.

Following up on a report from earlier Tuesday that suggested the so-called "iPad 3" will launch in Germany in April, iFun.de chimed in to dispute that date. Instead, the German-language site has heard that Apple's next iPad will launch in their country on March 23.

Last year, Apple announced the iPad 2 on March 2, and the device became available in the U.S. just over a week later, on March 11. The international launch came a few weeks later, on March 25, to 25 additional countries including Germany.

This year, Apple is expected to unveil its third-generation iPad at a media event on March 7. If that date is accurate and Apple employs the same launch timeframe as 2011, the device would go on sale in the U.S. on Friday, March 16, while international availability would begin on Friday, March 30.


Purported 'iPad 3' case and comparison photos. | Source: Apple Daily


Though the April launch for the next iPad in Germany was disputed, a number of other details were contained in the original report. It said that the "iPad 3" will feature Siri voice control and a 1080p camera with image stabilization, both powered by a dual-core "A5X" processor.

The third-generation iPad is also expected to feature a high-resolution Retina Display. The pixel-dense screen is rumored to have a resolution of 2,048-by-1,536 pixels, which is 260 pixels per inch, and twice the resolution of the current iPad 2 screen.

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Notice the cool Chinese character at the bottom of that image in red. There is a semi reversed Apple logo as the last character from the right. Weird.

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I hope that Apple implements some new rules and a new system for dealing with douchebag scalpers.

Cash should be illegal and it should only be one per customer. The scalper problem is Apple's problem and it is their problem to fix. Some people say that Apple should be worried about bad publicity because of the bogus worker situation in China, but just wait and see what happens when somebody gets shot outside of an Apple store waiting for an iPad! That would probably not be too good publicity for Apple.

Hopefully any losers who are the kind of people who line up to buy sneakers will not be lining up to buy any iPads.
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No surprise there, as we already know that it'll be released sometime in March.

Anyway... I'm just surprised to see that it appears to be quite a bit thicker than the previously rumored +1mm in today's leaked pics.

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Notice the cool Chinese character at the bottom of that image in red. There is a semi reversed Apple logo as the last character from the right. Weird.

not sure what you mean by "semi reversed Apple logo". those four Chinese characters mean "Apple Daily", as in daily newspaper.
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No surprise there, as well already know that it'll be released sometime in March.

Anyway... I'm just surprised to see that it appears to be quite a bit thicker than the previously rumored +1mm in today's leaked pics.

image: http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/102...20221at111.png

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Anyway... I'm just surprised to see that it appears to be quite a bit thicker than the previously rumored +1mm in today's leaked pics.

I'm not surprised, as that has long been rumored. It's only around 1 mm thicker, so it makes no difference at all. With all those new features and the new screen, plus a bigger battery, bigger camera and other goodies crammed inside of it, I guess we can live with 1mm thicker. It's not like the iPad2 was thick to begin with.
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SMS/Text Messaging?
Phone calls via bluetooth???

if not, forget it apple...
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Oh, a Troll on AI, what a surprise.....

We are talking about an iPad, right? How exactly will SMS work on a WiFi iPad?

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What is it that makes you so compelled to troll and FUD?=

Just because someone post something you don't happen to like doesn't mean they're trolling, etc - So Get Over It.

Anyway... We'll see in a couple of weeks what the size difference is, though one thing's for certain... It won't be any thinner.
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You know they're calling it an A5X. X is another good letter to signify 4 of something, given the X has 4 ends 1mm thicker than the iPad 2 will be just fine, esp if that lets them maintain battery life parity w/the iPad 2. I've been using an iPad 1 in the Apple case all this time, the iPad 2 already feels like absolutely nothing when I hold it.
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Just because someone post something you don't happen to like doesn't mean they're trolling, etc - So Get Over It.

But of the three images you could have picked you cherry picked the one that was offset the most knowing full well that there was one that showed barely a difference in thickness. Hence, you're trolling.

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Anyway... We'll see in a couple of weeks what the size difference is, though one thing's for certain... It won't be any thinner.

Three things are for sure... being slightly thicker means it has a HiDPI display, that sales won't be negatively impacted, and Android-based tablets will be effectively shut out.

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Not defending his position, but plenty of people use google voice as their primary sms number. Not to mention plenty of other options and apps available to send/receive texts over wifi and an iPad.

And if you wanted to use your actual cellphone number for sending texts instead you can do that as well from logging in on your Sprint/AT&T/Verizon website to send and receive from there as well. At least you can on Sprint, so I assume the other carriers offer that option as well. Useful for when you are at a computer or an iPad and get into a long text chats with someone. The larger keyboard makes typing so much easier.

That's SMS being sent to the device over IP from Google's SMS servers. In a general population I wouldn't argue the point but here, on a tech related forum, I think the difference should be noted. Also, as you state there are ways to get your SMS sent to other devices through intermediaries.

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Three things are for sure... being slightly thicker means it has a HiDPI display, that sales won't be negatively impacted, and Android-based tablets will be effectively shut out.

I don't think that anybody gives a shit about 1 mm thicker. We're not talking about 1 inch here.

And then there are those blasphemous people who will go out and put their iPad inside some kind of hideous case, adding to the thickness. I am not one of those people. And I don't put plastic covers on my sofa at home either.
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But of the three images you could have picked you cherry picked the one that was offset the most knowing full well that there was one that showed barely a difference in thickness. Hence, you're trolling.

Three things are for sure... being slightly thicker means it has a HiDPI display, that sales won't be negatively impacted, and Android-based tablets will be effectively shut out.

No a single posts in this article once mentioned anything about Android... yet you just had to, and yet you have the nerve to accuse someone of trolling - Now that's Hypocrisy of the Highest Order.

regardless... I'm looking forward to my new iPad 3, especially if they offer a 128gb version.

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I And then there are those blasphemous people who will go out and put their iPad inside some kind of hideous case, adding to the thickness. I am not one of those people. And I don't put plastic covers on my sofa at home either.

Of course there are those "go out and put their iPad inside some kind of case" because the aluminium iPad shell just happens to be rather slippery, so they choose to protect against accidental slips and drops.
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@ Apple ][,

The iPad 2 with the Smart Cover is incredibly thin compared to the iPad 1 in the Apple case. It doesn't really feel that way because the back is curved so much but laying flat down you can really see the difference. That said, it was never a problem with either one. I think wight is the larger concern as the new display plus GPU and RAM could be more power hungry yet I want the same or more duration for the same tasks.


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No a single posts in this article once mentioned anything about Android... yet you just had to, and yet you have the nerve to accuse someone of trolling - Now that's Hypocrisy of the Highest Order.

regardless... I'm looking forward to my new iPad 3, especially if they offer a 128gb version.

You made a slanted comment to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) about the aesthetics and usability of the iPad. I pointed that a 265 PPI 9.7" display at the same price point would be even more effective for the iPad domination of the market than its previous success. I made a comment that can be debated, if you actually chose to write like an adult. You inability to not see the difference is the reason you get treated the way you do. Maybe it's time for you to post more watermarked images of stuff you own¡

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Of course there are those "go out and put their iPad inside some kind of case" because the aluminium iPad shell just happens to be rather slippery, so they choose to protect against accidental slips and drops.

I have one of those Neoprene slip covers which I'll put my iPad in when I throw it in a bag, but I only use the iPad naked, when I'm actually using it.

I just find it funny how Apple goes through such great lengths to make nice looking and thin devices and then certain people destroy the look as soon as they get it. But to each his own I suppose.
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Of course there are those "go out and put their iPad inside some kind of case" because the aluminium iPad shell just happens to be rather slippery, so they choose to protect against accidental slips and drops.

iPad 1 + Apple Case + small children = much happier parents My kids do a great job actually. We've had it for a year and a half now and the kids are almost 6 1/2 and 4. They're extremely careful, but it being in the Apple Case really makes me feel better. Plus the Apple case is still much more sleek than a lot of those "kid friendly"iPad cases out there that are fashion disasters.
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@ Apple ][,

The iPad 2 with the Smart Cover is incredibly thin compared to the iPad 1 in the Apple case.

I agree. I wasn't thinking about the smart cover, but rather some third party cases.
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We are talking about an iPad, right? How exactly will SMS work on a WiFi iPad?


I think you should be able to send SMS between different devices. I could always send SMS from my Mac to a cell phone. Receiving a reply was not always as reliable. You should certainly be able to send SMS on a 3G iPad but Apple does not provide an app for that although I have heard that there are third party apps.

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Shoot what am I going to do with all these cases I just bought, they're going to slip right off. Why do they have to make it smaller, yet again!
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iPad 1 + Apple Case + small children = much happier parents

Very true... Though I've found the best solution to eliminate the inherently slippery aluminum case without adding bulk is to either cover my iPads in composite materials e.g. carbon fiber, Kevlar, whatever I have left over from vehicle projects, or to custom paint my devices with a final clear-coat mixed with a bit of light texturizer.

Then again, I never care to have anything that looks like anyone else's.



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You made a slanted comment to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) about the aesthetics and usability of the iPad.

I Did No Such Thing, and it's just another instance of you being way too defensive/hostile about anything that anyone post about an Apple product with which you don't agree.
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I have one of those Neoprene slip covers which I'll put my iPad in when I throw it in a bag, but I only use the iPad naked, when I'm actually using it.

I just find it funny how Apple goes through such great lengths to make nice looking and thin devices and then certain people destroy the look as soon as they get it. But to each his own I suppose.

I don't like the feel of the aluminum back. I feel like I'm getting slightly shocked every-time I touch it. It's uncomfortable. I also despise thick, ugly cases, but wouldn't mind a transparent, ultra-thin membrane that can give a slightly softer feel while protecting from everyday nicks.
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I Did No Such Thing, and it's just another instance of you being way too defensive/hostile about anything that anyone post about an Apple product with which you don't agree.

You clearly did. You have a history of doing it. it's not about agreeing or disagreeing it's about you purposely making false claims that you know are not true. Hence, FUD, hence trolling. Of course, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you can show that you had no knowledge of the pic (from that same set) that showed them sitting side-by-side -and- that you have no concept of what perspective is and how the clearly offset devices might appear to be different sizes but I'm guessing you first saw these pics at MR or Engadget and that your frequent use of a camera means you are well aware of that latter.

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We are talking about an iPad, right? How exactly will SMS work on a WiFi iPad?

Google Voice

As someone posted already
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As the Internet would say, "Come at us, bro."

It's an Apple fan site, but I'm in no way a zealot. Not anymore. And you're equating Ireland to Apple ][? We're talking about the same Ireland, right?

It's amazing the hypocrisies of those that troll. DaHarder cries about being attacked when he his FUD was pointed out and then goes on to call posters sad and pathetic without actually addressing the post. Man up and learn to write like an adult or man up when you get called out on your bullshit. You can't have it both ways. I don't even care that they troll as I do like decimating their poorly contrived arguments but to attack posters and then cry it about it when the someone pushes back is juvenile, doing nothing but derailing the conversation as they are now.... but that is their goal so i guess they are winning.

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Google Voice

As someone posted already

And as it's also been pointed out Google Voce sends you the SMS from their servers over IP. It's no longer SMS.

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And as it's also been pointed out Google Voce sends you the SMS from their servers over IP. It's no longer SMS.


Sure it is.
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Are you serious? If you can send and receive a text from the google voice app on your ipad why are you splitting hairs about it being sent via IP? I even pointed out you can actually send texts and even picture messages from your actual mobile number by logging on your sprint.com or any other carriers website. That is not including all the free text apps out there along with VoIP apps that also include texts.

FYI: Logging into sprint.com is over IP, not the control channel on your cellular connection.

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You said " How exactly will SMS work on a WiFi iPad?"

Hopefully you can just be a magnanimous for once and say, oh yeah it is possible.

Yet again, how SMS will work is like it's worked in the past, being relayed over IP from a device that will send or receive from the carrier's SMS servers. This is very basic stuff.

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Sure it is.

So if you get an email then write it down on paper and mail it to someone using the USPS you would call that an email? I certainly wouldn't. I'd say it originated as an email but the moment you change the medium it's no longer an email. it's still mail, just as an SMS or IM are still text messages, but SMS has a very specific meaning.

I've given you all the key words you need to look this stuff so none of this "I've never heard of such a thing so I'll keep pretending it doesn't exist" nonsense. This forum isn't for sticking your head in the ground.

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So if you get an email then write it down on paper and mail it to someone using the USPS you would call that an email? I certainly wouldn't. I'd say it originated as an email but the moment you change the medium it's no longer an email. it's still mail, just as an SMS or IM are still text messages, but SMS has a very specific meaning.

I've given you all the key words you need to look this stuff so none of this "I've never heard of such a thing so I'll keep pretending it doesn't exist" nonsense. This forum isn't for sticking your head in the ground.

if USPS then types that printed email back to email and I received in my email inbox I sure would
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So if you get an email then write it down on paper and mail it to someone using the USPS you would call that an email? I certainly wouldn't. I'd say it originated as an email but the moment you change the medium it's no longer an email. it's still mail, just as an SMS or IM are still text messages, but SMS has a very specific meaning.

I've given you all the key words you need to look this stuff so none of this "I've never heard of such a thing so I'll keep pretending it doesn't exist" nonsense. This forum isn't for sticking your head in the ground.

Short Message Service (SMS) is a text messaging service component of phone, web, or mobile communication systems, using standardized communications protocols that allow the exchange of short text messages between fixed line or mobile phone devices.

from wikipedia. SMS is not exclusively for phones it is a general protocol that many devices can use.

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It's amazing the hypocrisies of those that troll. You can't have it both ways. I don't even care... but to attack posters and then cry it about it when the someone pushes back is juvenile.

Actually... It is YOU who 'can't have it both ways' with your personal attacks on other's integrity and "juvenile" use of profanity, and the more you post/flail about in protest, the more you just prove my point.

Note: "DaHarder cries about being attacked when he his FUD was pointed out" - Hmm? Talking about needing to 'learn how to write like an adult" LOL

So... Troll On Troll (as you likely will anyway).

Anyway... Bring On That iPad 3!
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Short Message Service (SMS) is a text messaging service component of phone, web, or mobile communication systems, using standardized communications protocols that allow the exchange of short text messages between fixed line or mobile phone devices.

from wikipedia. SMS is not exclusively for phones it is a general protocol that many devices can use.

SMS was designed for text-based communications over cell networks. There is a reason SMS was originally 160 characters. It is talking to its cell phone tower over a pathway called a control channel. The control channel also provides the pathway for SMS messages. When a friend sends you an SMS message, the message flows through the SMSC, then to the tower, and the tower sends the message to your phone as a little packet of data on the control channel. In the same way, when you send a message, your phone sends it to the tower on the control channel and it goes from the tower to the SMSC and from there to its destination. Anything outside of that is being switched. Eventually SMS will die off as IP networks take over with the voice channel for phones being over IP as well. We're seeing it now with Apple's iMessages. iMessages aren't SMS simply because they are going between phones just as emails aren't SMS simply because they are text between phones.

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SMS was designed for text-based communications over cell networks. There is a reason SMS was originally 160 characters. It is talking to its cell phone tower over a pathway called a control channel. The control channel also provides the pathway for SMS messages. When a friend sends you an SMS message, the message flows through the SMSC, then to the tower, and the tower sends the message to your phone as a little packet of data on the control channel. In the same way, when you send a message, your phone sends it to the tower on the control channel and it goes from the tower to the SMSC and from there to its destination. Anything outside of that is being switched. Eventually SMS will die off as IP networks take over with the voice channel for phones being over IP as well. We're seeing it now with Apple's iMessages. iMessages aren't SMS simply because they are going between phones just as emails aren't SMS simply because they are text between phones.

How do you think those large organizations send you SMS alerts to your phone. They don't type in one character at a time on their phone. They send it from a computer program over the internet to the provider that is in control of your phone number. After it make numerous hops across the internet it gets sent over the air to your phone. I don't think we are concerned about its legacy origins. Simply put it is a protocol and can utilize the Internet as part of its routing so the IP or lack of IP packets argument is not holding water. IMO.

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Don't add all the extra qualifiers now.

So now being accurate is somehow wrong?

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No one besides you cares how or what protocol it uses.

I do care, because I care about accuracy. I don't care for liars, trolls or those spreading FUD because they have some ill-placed hate for a company yet frequent a forum that is about said company.

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You even said a while back you are too cheap for a text plan so use iMessage which is now possible to use on a Mac.

It's ideological reasons but go ahead and slander. My question to you is why can't not like the way carriers gauge customers for SMS -and- know how the fuck it works.

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If someone receives a text message on their phone regardless of their phone or carrier from my WiFi iPad using GV or any other text app, I don't think they would care that it was not sent via the control channel on my carrier or over IP.

If you care about how things work you will care. If you are on a tech-based forum I'd expect that overwhelming majority would care how things work. Of course there will always be people like you and DaHarder that have no interest in how things work just so long as they you can spin it into Apple is doomed!

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All that matters is if you can send and reply to it like you would any other text message.

If you don't care how things work then you shouldn't be telling others how they work. If you do change your mind and actually care about having a mature conversation about technology let us know.

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How do you think those large organizations send you SMS alerts to your phone. They don't type in one character at a time on their phone. They send it from a computer program over the internet to the provider that is in control of your phone number. After it make numerous hops across the internet it gets sent over the air to your phone. I don't think we are concerned about its legacy origins. Simply put it is a protocol and can utilize the Internet as part of its routing so the IP or lack of IP packets argument is not holding water. IMO.

It also gets pushed via IP to other SMS servers, even within the same MNO. Those packets are encapsulated. All Google is doing is maintaining servers that are intermediaries between the networks. Your carrier is still needed for SMS but Google can forward an SMS as a text message.

Q: Do you think that iMessages is SMS because it can be sent and received on your phone?

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SMS was designed for text-based communications over cell networks. There is a reason SMS was originally 160 characters. It is talking to its cell phone tower over a pathway called a control channel. The control channel also provides the pathway for SMS messages. When a friend sends you an SMS message, the message flows through the SMSC, then to the tower, and the tower sends the message to your phone as a little packet of data on the control channel. In the same way, when you send a message, your phone sends it to the tower on the control channel and it goes from the tower to the SMSC and from there to its destination. Anything outside of that is being switched. Eventually SMS will die off as IP networks take over with the voice channel for phones being over IP as well. We're seeing it now with Apple's iMessages. iMessages aren't SMS simply because they are going between phones just as emails aren't SMS simply because they are text between phones.

if a featured phone that only has sms and voice can receive sms from google voice, I would consider it sms.

SMS is still only 160 characters. Servers/phone break it up for you automatically.

Lets not talk about iMessages as it requires data on both ends. Its no better than a chat program. Its irrelevant.
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It also gets pushed via IP to other SMS servers, even within the same MNO. Those packets are encapsulated.

Q: Do you think that iMessages is SMS because it can be sent and received on your phone?

For years I have been able to send an SMS to a phone from iChat using my AIM account. I know that Apple and AIM are working together behind the scenes to deliver that SMS to the phone so I consider it an SMS. How many ones and zeros it uses is not important to me. For all intents and purposes it is an SMS.

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It also gets pushed via IP to other SMS servers, even within the same MNO. Those packets are encapsulated. All Google is doing is maintaining servers that are intermediaries between the networks. Your carrier is still needed for SMS but Google can forward an SMS as a text message.

Q: Do you think that iMessages is SMS because it can be sent and received on your phone?


no one brought up iMessages but you. its a failed arguement. iMessage is not SMS
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