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Though Microsoft has portrayed a hands-on report with a purported pre-release build of Office for iPad as "inaccurate," rumors continue to point toward an iPad-optimized version of Office being a reality.

A "working prototype" of Office for iPad was detailed on Tuesday by Matt Hickey of The Daily, News Corp's iPad news publication. But Microsoft quickly dismissed the details as "based on inaccurate rumors and speculation."

Following Microsoft's denial, Peter Ha, the news organization's editor of its Apps & Tech section, took to his official Twitter account to claim that an image that accompanied the story in The Daily showing a purported screenshot of Office for iPad was not fake. He also shared a picture of the supposed iOS icon for Microsoft's Office application.

He also hinted at more details to come, stating that if Microsoft was unhappy with the original report detailing Office for iPad, "they likely won't be happy with our follow up." Later on Tuesday, he tweeted, "Today was fun. Let's do it again tomorrow!"

Separately, Microsoft insider Mary-Jo Foley at ZDNet wrote a column stating that Microsoft's "denial" does not mean that the company is not building Office for the iPad. In fact, she said she expects that the Redmond, Wash., software company actually is working on a version of its productivity suite for Apple's touchscreen tablet.

"So what about Microsoft's claims that The Daily's photos weren't of a real Microsoft product?" she wrote. "Remember: If something like the actual UI screen in a photo isn't yet final and subject to change in anyway, Microsoft execs technically can say this with a (semi) straight face)."




For its part, Microsoft's Corporate Communications arm took to its official Twitter account to release its own statement: "Great respect for The Daily but regrettably someone is giving them bad info, and that'll be clear in the 'coming weeks.'"

The "coming weeks" quote from Microsoft refers to the original story from author Matt Hickey, who indicated that Office for iPad could soon be submitted for approval to Apple's App Store and released, as he said, "in the coming weeks." Foley said such quick availability of the application strikes her as "potentially overly optimistic."

Hickey's hands-on impressions with Office claimed that it will allow users to create and edit Word, Excel and PowerPoint photos locally and online, in an application that uses Microsoft's trademark Metro user interface.

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post #2 of 37
Terrible reporting.
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Terrible reporting.

And Apple said they weren't making a phone. But yet here we see two screenshots of Office on an iPad.

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We need an iPad3 (processor, rez) to even think about actual end users running Office under iOS. But since we can't let that cat out of the bag, we're reduced to making you think we need a few weeks to get our act together. Since we have a history of barely getting our act together on forward looking products, you're buying it. Plus we planted all those images of goofy staged funerals and similar cosplay "events" so you probably figure we're very busy putting together a garish float that will announce this in New Orleans, sadly two weeks after the actual Mardi Gras. Dang. We should totally do that!
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Or maybe it should read:

Oops, we promised to let this be revealed at the keynote presentation. Its just we are so excited about this product that our undisiplined employees spilled the beans. Thank god Steve's not around anymore since this major announcement will fall flat now. Hope they don't kick us out of the keynote. Sorry.
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Microsoft couldn't do a better job than CloudOn so they just bought the company and put the MS logo on it. That's my story and I'm sticking' with it.
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Could we see a simultaneous iPad 3 and Office for iPad release? Thats the product that Apple pimps in it's keynote?

Before people start thinking it would never happen- if Office is $50 (or whatever)- thats still $15 that Apple gets for doing absolutely nothing. They'll be quite happy promoting a product that will sell a lot (because for the most part- if you were going to buy their iWork suite- you would've done it already).

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Could we see a simultaneous iPad 3 and Office for iPad release? Thats the product that Apple pimps in it's keynote?

Apple. Talk about a Microsoft product. In a keynote.

Sure.

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(because for the most part- if you were going to buy their iWork suite- you would've done it already).

Or you don't even have an iPad yet

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And Apple said they weren't making a phone. But yet here we see two screenshots of Office on an iPad.

True. I think that Microsoft would be dumb not to be working on Office for the iPad but then again at this late point is there an audience left. As you say most folks that have an iPad got Pages etc (or one of the clone office apps) already. So perhaps they are not and what was seen was actually for their own tablets.

or maybe they are but that wasn't a shot of the app at all or it isn't 'near to ready' as some articles are claiming and that's what they are disputing more than anything else. Not that they are working on a possible app/apps

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post #10 of 37
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Or maybe it should read:

Oops, we promised to let this be revealed at the keynote presentation..

Apple doesn't pimp products from other companies when they made their own. So it would be Apple's iWork apps they would talk about, not Office.

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post #11 of 37
Please. Why keep it a secret? Office has no competition.
post #12 of 37
Or perhaps M$ doesn't want to give people yet another reason to buy an iPad 3 until they release a W8 tablet.....

I would expect (unfortunately) a delay that allows M$ several months of exclusive MS Office

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True. I think that Microsoft would be dumb not to be working on Office for the iPad but then again at this late point is there an audience left. As you say most folks that have an iPad got Pages etc (or one of the clone office apps) already. So perhaps they are not and what was seen was actually for their own tablets.

LOTS of people who have pages, etc will still buy Office iPad if/when it comes out. As good as the iWork apps are, having the real office on the iPad would make life a lot simpler in many ways.
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Please. Why keep it a secret? Office has no competition.

Indeed. Even NeoOffice beats the crap out of Office. Office hasn't had any competition since iWork '06 supplanted it.

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having the real office on the iPad

I weep for the people who think they're actually going to get the "real Office" by buying this. I weep for the people who think their files will actually be compatible with the Mac and PC versions of Office when exporting them from any mobile version.

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post #15 of 37
"Coming weeks" ...

That would precede Windows 8. What are the odds of Office being available on iPad before Win8 tablets are available?
post #16 of 37
inaccurate != untrue

Almost everything can be called inaccurate. If a single detail is wrong but everything else is right, or if a everything is right but a single detail is missing, you can call it inaccurate. This is a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. Let MS hold on to their secrets and try and be showmen. I'll keep using Pages quite happily. When they show me Word for iPad, I'll look at it. On the desktop, I use both. Each for different things.
post #17 of 37

C'mon guys think about it!

  1. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012

  2. We won't see a WOA Windows 8 ARM tablet until 2013, if ever

  3. Maybe we'll see acceptable x86 tablets capable of running Office in 2013-2014

  4. Enterprise is buying iPads in increasingly large numbers for the foreseeable future 2012-2015

  5. Enterprise needs MS Office tablet capability/compatibility

  6. MS and Apple are currently best frenemies

  7. MS can make $, gain experience and keep its Office options open with an iPad release

  8. Apple will gain enterprise penetration with Office on the iPad

  9. It is not unusual for Apple to feature MS (Apple BU) at a product announcement -- been done many times

  10. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012
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C'mon guys think about it!

  1. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012

  2. We won't see a WOA Windows 8 ARM tablet until 2013, if ever

  3. Maybe we'll see acceptable x86 tablets capable of running Office in 2013-2014

  4. Enterprise is buying iPads in increasingly large numbers for the foreseeable future 2012-2015

  5. Enterprise needs MS Office tablet capability/compatibility

  6. MS and Apple are currently best frenemies

  7. MS can make $, gain experience and keep its Office options open with an iPad release

  8. Apple will gain enterprise penetration with Office on the iPad

  9. It is not unusual for Apple to feature MS (Apple BU) at a product announcement -- been done many times

  10. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012

11. Microsoft needs to slow down Android Tablets as much as possible while they prepare to launch their tablet. Office for iPad (& later Office for Windows Tablets) is the perfect way to do that.
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I weep for the people who think they're actually going to get the "real Office" by buying this. I weep for the people who think their files will actually be compatible with the Mac and PC versions of Office when exporting them from any mobile version.

Kind of thick on the melodrama, but whatever. I guess time will tell. I keep reading about problems importing/exporting docs from Office PC to Mac & vice versa. I have had zero problems with Word & Excel using Office 2011 for Mac & Office 2007 for PC. It works perfectly fine every time. There are some challenges with PowerPoint, but nothing I haven't been able to work around. I don't expect the iPad version to be able to do everything that the full version can, but I will be surprised if there are any conversion issues (besides limitations in the iPad version.) I guess we will see in a few weeks which one of us is right.
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If Microsoft released this with a companion new Office for Mac that synced iPad documents with Office documents on the Mac's file system ( not in the cloud ) then I'd not only buy the suite but might even consider an iPad.

If Microsoft also made a mini version for the iPhone, then I'd take that too.

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Indeed. Even NeoOffice beats the crap out of Office. Office hasn't had any competition since iWork '06 supplanted it.



I weep for the people who think they're actually going to get the "real Office" by buying this. I weep for the people who think their files will actually be compatible with the Mac and PC versions of Office when exporting them from any mobile version.

If there's any exporting involved, then I'd say that Microsoft have made as much a mess of it as Apple.

What I'd like to see is Microsoft define a sub-set format (Excel Mobile - wasn't that an oil tanker?) of features that would be guaranteed to be supported on any device, possibly even through a browser.

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C'mon guys think about it!

  1. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012

  2. We won't see a WOA Windows 8 ARM tablet until 2013, if ever
  3. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012

Whoa there! If Office on iPad precedes WOA, WOA could be DOA.
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11. Microsoft needs to slow down Android Tablets as much as possible while they prepare to launch their tablet. Office for iPad (& later Office for Windows Tablets) is the perfect way to do that.

Exactly right!

MS has no chance in the next few years of becoming the #1 Tablet, unseating iPad

MS has an opportunity to become the #2 Tablet if things work out (WOA or x86)

There is no #3 Tablet... just also rans...


The MS opportunity is to release as many apps/support services as possible on the iPad and try to migrate those to MS Tablets when available.

MS gets immediate $ and exposure for Office (regardless of the MS Tablet efforts)

If MS Tablets fail or too late -- Then MS stil has MS Office on Tablets -- the iPad.
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Whoa there! If Office on iPad precedes WOA, WOA could be DOA.

I believe WOA is a [poorly defined] placeholder until robust-enough hardware is available (read x86) to run Windows 8 on a tablet -- likely 2014.

WOA early releases are possible in 2012 -- but usable releases not until 2013.

Will anyone build WOA tablets or develop apps for them unless MS foots the bill?

In any case WOA won't be viable this year...

IMO, Whoa -- WOA is DOA!

Maybe time for another lateral arabesque at MS,
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Perhaps MS need a new buzzword...

From MS -- the company that brought you WIMP, WINCE, Zune...

We now Offer a new Platform -- Windows On Everything...

WOE
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post #26 of 37
MS is in a very vulnerable at the moment now is the time for Apple to make a bold move in productivity software to break the MS Office monopoly.

I am hoping for some big announcements in the next couple of months:

- A new version of iWork for Mac with closer feature parity with MS Office
- Seamless iCloud integration across mac, iPad and iPhone.
- If Apple is really serious just give iWork away every new mac, iPad and iPhone.
- If Apple is really really serious just give it away to the installed base with a minimum hardware spec (i.e. all iPads, 3GS and newer iPhones, Macs that run Lion) and give people who bought the applications on the app store a credit.

Now is the time to make some bold moves.
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Apple. Talk about a Microsoft product. In a keynote.

Sure.

Here is your crow to eat since you enjoy doing it so often:

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In mid-1997, Steve Jobs gave a keynote address in which he presented a detailed report on the company's status. The keynote featured an appearance by Microsoft CEO Bill Gates by satellite. Jobs announced a partnership with Microsoft comprising several key agreements that, according to Jobs, would benefit Apple and allow it to recover from its prolonged decline during the early and mid 1990s. Two major announcements were made during the keynote: first, that the next major release of Microsoft Office, Office 98, would be developed for the Macintosh, and second, that Microsoft's Internet Explorer web browser would be the default browser on all Macintosh computers.

And plenty of people don't have a productivity suite. Including several people in my office that use it for work purposes. Why? I don't know. They just use it to read word documents but never edit. Then they edit them on their computer. But these are the same people who email themselves files instead of throwing them in dropbox. If Microsoft Office for the iPad makes people, who otherwise wouldn't have bought another editing/productivity app, buy some. Thats 30% good for Apple. I'll take that.

Can everyone not pretend this isn't going to be successful just because it's Microsoft?


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MS is in a very vulnerable at the moment now is the time for Apple to make a bold move in productivity software to break the MS Office monopoly.

I am hoping for some big announcements in the next couple of months:

- A new version of iWork for Mac with closer feature parity with MS Office
- Seamless iCloud integration across mac, iPad and iPhone.
- If Apple is really serious just give iWork away every new mac, iPad and iPhone.
- If Apple is really really serious just give it away to the installed base with a minimum hardware spec (i.e. all iPads, 3GS and newer iPhones, Macs that run Lion) and give people who bought the applications on the app store a credit.

Now is the time to make some bold moves.

I dont understand this. So give a product away (spend more money to develop excellent software and support it- and in the meantime make nothing) instead of selling a lesser amount of a niche product and getting something, and In the meantime- you can get a 30% cut of Office App sales.

Just so we're clear- give it away to hurt another company a lot, and hurt your company just a little bit less. Ok....

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Here is your crow to eat since you enjoy doing it so often:

You'll notice it hasn't happened since. There's a reason for that.

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You'll notice it hasn't happened since. There's a reason for that.

Uh, yes it has.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/s...rom-wwdc-2010/

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I'm with him, just like what Apple did with Microsoft Words/Office when they launch the first Mac, they WILL launch iPad 3 WITH Microsoft Office Suite for iPad.


Then they both will merrily fly over to Europe for the hearing of their (shared) case against Motorola ...
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You'll notice it hasn't happened since. There's a reason for that.

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Uh, yes it has.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/s...rom-wwdc-2010/

Both Exchange Server 2010 and Bing were mentioned by Steve Jobs.

Crow entree with crow as dessert.

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I am hoping for some big announcements in the next couple of months:

- A new version of iWork for Mac with closer feature parity with MS Office

I don't care to imagine Keynote hobbled by feature-matching legacy PPT themes.

Nor do I care to have Pages join Word in treat master items (background PDF letterheads f'rinstance) as lo-res images.

Have they fixed either of these "features" in Office Mac 2011? I gave up hoping so since 2001, 2004, 2008...

I've made too many clear, good looking, informative pieces of of work in Pages, only to have someone say "Ooh! Now can you save that as Word?" Yes. Right after I take some power tools and "save" your Jaguar as a Ford Escort. Praise the Lord and pass the Bondo.
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I don't think the prospect of Office on the iPad is all that odd.

MSFT has offered software on Mac OS/hardware since the dawn of time.

It would be an instant best selling app as well. MSFT would make heaps fairly quick off the deal.
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9to5 has an excellent article on what they believe is going on with Office and the iPad. Well worth the read if for no more than to spark discussion.

http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/23/micros...e/#more-140766
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I'm with him, just like what Apple did with Microsoft Words/Office when they launch the first Mac, they WILL launch iPad 3 WITH Microsoft Office Suite for iPad.


Then they both will merrily fly over to Europe for the hearing of their (shared) case against Motorola ...

I'm not so certain it's going to happen, but I agree it could. As much as people like to be pro Apple and anti Microsoft. The two companies actually have a good history or working together. How many other big companies has Apple actually managed to successfully partner with?

They both also naturally fit together as they target different markets. Apple is always high end with hight profit margins so can never take over a whole market, particularly long term. Microsoft caters for everybody else. Both are always better at working together against someone like Google as there in the market at selling devices for a profit, not giving stuff away to make money from search/ads.

Its in Microsofts interest for the iPad to succeed if only just to stop Android tablets becoming to successful at a price where there isn't enough money for both MS and the hardware partner to make a decent amount from tablet sales.
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9to5 has an excellent article on what they believe is going on with Office and the iPad. Well worth the read if for no more than to spark discussion.

http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/23/micros...e/#more-140766

Agree with basically everything that article says!
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