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Do-it-yourself repair site iFixit posted a side-by-side comparison video on Thursday between the alleged next-generation 'iPad 3' display and a replacement screen for an iPad 2, and results reaffirm previous reports that the purported new component's pixel density is indeed double that of Apple's current tablet line.

The site, well known for its product teardown and self-repair guides, used a USB microscope to shoot pixel-level images of a rumored "iPad 3" display that was obtained by MacRumors on Friday through "unreported channels."

Although last week's report yielded compelling photographic evidence that the component was a QXGA screen with a resolution of 2048-by-1536 pixels, the iFixit images are of higher quality and show more detail than the previous side-by-side photos. Clearly seen are individual pixels, with the new display appearing to sport a common RGB sub-pixel arrangement which is identical to the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S' Retina Display.

iFixit was unsuccessful in powering on the display due to a newly-designed LCD connector cable, but the USB microscope threw enough light to show that for each iPad 2 pixel, the new component boasted four. The finding is concurrent with reports that claim the pixel density of the rumored tablet will be around 260 pixels-per-inch. In contrast, the current generation iPad 2 has a 132 ppi pixel density.

While the estimated 260 ppi falls short of the 300+ ppi the late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs described as being a qualifier for Retina Display status, it can be contested that because users hold tablets farther away from their eyes than a phone, the would-be "iPad 3" specs are be enough to achieve a perceived pixel density similar to that of Apple's latest smartphone.



The physical dimensions of the display are identical to that of the iPad and iPad 2, though iFixit notes that those thinking of swapping out their iPad 2 screens with this new "iPad 3" model are out of luck. Besides the obvious incompatibility with current iPad logic boards, there have been no figures as to the screen's power consumption and processor requirements.

Previous reports pointed to rumors that, due to a high pixel count, a so-called iPad Retina Display may need a backlight configuration consisting of two LED light bars to achieve brightness levels equavalent to current iPad models.

Apple is rumored to announce its next generation tablet on March 7, and will feature the rumored Retina Display, a redesigned case, a new processor and 4G LTE functionality.

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Quadruple the pixels and 17 grams lighter! Bring it on!

Only 2 more weeks to go now.
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Invitations'll go out tomorrow. Or the standard week in advance. Who knows. I think they might do it on Steve's birthday, but then again, what could they say in them?

"Join us for Steve's crowning achievement…" maybe. That actually sounds pretty good.

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Uh oh! The pervy comments will be coming shortly.

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Why would anyone think of swiping this one for the one in their current model? I would hope that people are smarter than that.
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Uh oh! The pervy comments will be coming shortly.

Why? Because of that chick in the video?

She's going for the geeky, nerdy look with those glasses and all, but you know that once the facade comes off, she will be a real animal in the sack! Just the kind that I like. All females should be animals in bed. Female prudes are a waste of time and not even worth speaking to, IMHO.
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Previous reports pointed to rumors that, due to a high pixel count, a so-called iPad Retina Display may need a backlight configuration consisting of two LED light bars to achieve brightness levels equavalent to current iPad models.

Does that mean the new display is less power efficient? Hopefully they managed to offset that power draw somehow then.
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Does that mean the new display is less power efficient? Hopefully they managed to offset that power draw somehow then.

no it doesnt
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Does that mean the new display is less power efficient? Hopefully they managed to offset that power draw somehow then.

Maybe, maybe not. The original talk of the two backlights is what brought about the thicker panel but this appears to be just as thin so perhaps they were able to figure out a single panel method.

Also, there is the 4x pixels of the display and the GPU to push the pixels that could affect battery life. There are other panel techs that are supposedly more power efficient while still maintaining a 178° viewing angle but there was doubt about the able to produce in quantity.

For all we know the battery life will not be as good for this first year of the HiDPI display because they felt the hight res display was more important than increased battery life this time around.

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no it doesnt

Explain? If it needs two LED bars rather than one how does that not mean it needs more power at the same brightness?
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Why? Because of that chick in the video?

She's going for the geeky, nerdy look with those glasses and all, but you know that once the facade comes off, she will be a real animal in the sack! Just the kind that I like. All females should be animals in bed. Female prudes are a waste of time and not even worth speaking to, IMHO.

Ok, enough.
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Ok, enough.

Well, I apologize if my honest opinions offends anybody here.

I wouldn't even have mentioned it, if Solipsism didn't bring it up.
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Why? Because of that chick in the video?

She's going for the geeky, nerdy look with those glasses and all, but you know that once the facade comes off, she will be a real animal in the sack! Just the kind that I like. All females should be animals in bed. Female prudes are a waste of time and not even worth speaking to, IMHO.

So non-whores or women not willing to fuck you aren't worth speaking to? From a few previous posts regarding women you've made, that's what I gather you define as 'non-prudes'. Misogyny is pretty consistent with your other general views, so no surprise there.
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Invitations'll go out tomorrow. Or the standard week in advance. Who knows. I think they might do it on Steve's birthday, but then again, what could they say in them?

"Join us for Steve's crowning achievement" maybe. That actually sounds pretty good.

according to rumor the announcement will be March 7th. This is based on the 'fact' that Apple does 'all' announcements either at Yerba Buena or Moscone and there's nothing on the calendar that day at YB (who wouldn't be allowed to put Apple on the calendar).

So the standard weeks notice won't be until next week.

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I don't care whats in it. I just want one on the 7th.
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Explain? If it needs two LED bars rather than one how does that not mean it needs more power at the same brightness?

efficiency can increase, use of new or different tech
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She can come handle my Retina Display anytime she wants.
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Misogyny is pretty consistent with your other general views, so no surprise there.

False. Before certain people go around and accuse others of being racists, misogynists or whatever, they should think twice before engaging in slander.

mi·sog·y·nis·tic adj \\mə-ˌsäj-ə-ˈnis-tik\\

Definition of MISOGYNISTIC

: having or showing a hatred and distrust of women


I don't have any hatred or distrust of women.

As a matter of fact, I am the complete opposite of a misogynist, and I treat women pretty well. I simply view many of them as sexual objects. That doesn't make somebody a misogynist, that makes them a male.

A perfect example of a misogynist is those people in the world who keep women down, forcing them to cover up from head to toe, and beating them or worse if they don't comply. Those people hate women and they are afraid of females. I think that females should wear as little as possible. I also believe in equality and that they should make the same wage as a male does if they are performing the same job and they possess equal skills.

So no, I am not a misogynist.
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The young lady states that we could argue that "retina display" is more about perceived image quality than specs. But as the specs are based on human visual perception, she's wrong. What you can argue about is viewing distance. Whether that argument will have any effect on sales is another issue entirely.
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I don't care whats in it. I just want one on the 7th.

Well, you're not going to get one on the seventh. They might announce one on the seventh, and if you're lucky, maybe you'll have it in your hands 2-3 weeks after that.
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The young lady states that we could argue that "retina display" is more about perceived image quality than specs. But as the specs are based on human visual perception, she's wrong. What you can argue about is viewing distance. Whether that argument will have any effect on sales is another issue entirely.

That's what she's getting at. Viewing distance. She said that because you would hold an iPad fathet away than a phone the PPI can be lower. At 13" away it only needs to be 260 PPI for 20/20 vision. With a PPI of 265 for a 9.7" 2048x1536 display that would certainly fall within the scope of being honestly defined as Retina Display, despite the fact it's a marketing term.

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False. Before certain people go around and accuse others of being racists, misogynists or whatever, they should think twice before engaging in slander.

mi·sog·y·nis·tic adj \\mə-ˌsäj-ə-ˈnis-tik\\

Definition of MISOGYNISTIC

: having or showing a hatred and distrust of women


I don't have any hatred or distrust of women.

As a matter of fact, I am the complete opposite of a misogynist, and I treat women pretty well. I simply view many of them as sexual objects. That doesn't make somebody a misogynist, that makes them a male.

A perfect example of a misogynist is those people in the world who keep women down, forcing them to cover up from head to toe, and beating them or worse if they don't comply. Those people hate women and they are afraid of females. I think that females should wear as little as possible. I also believe in equality and that they should make the same wage as a male does if they are performing the same job and they possess equal skills.

So no, I am not a misogynist.

These are the views of someone who simply cannot get a girl interested in them. Childish and boring.

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These are the views of someone who simply cannot get a girl interested in them. Childish and boring.

I'm already with somebody, and have been for quite some time, but you are of course entitled to find my views childish and boring. My main point was that I am certainly not any misogynist.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

False. Before certain people go around and accuse others of being racists, misogynists or whatever, they should think twice before engaging in slander.

mi·sog·y·nis·tic adj \\mə-ˌsäj-ə-ˈnis-tik\\

Definition of MISOGYNISTIC

: having or showing a hatred and distrust of women


I don't have any hatred or distrust of women.

As a matter of fact, I am the complete opposite of a misogynist, and I treat women pretty well. I simply view many of them as sexual objects. That doesn't make somebody a misogynist, that makes them a male.

A perfect example of a misogynist is those people in the world who keep women down, forcing them to cover up from head to toe, and beating them or worse if they don't comply. Those people hate women and they are afraid of females. I think that females should wear as little as possible. I also believe in equality and that they should make the same wage as a male does if they are performing the same job and they possess equal skills.

So no, I am not a misogynist.

You can't really pull off the Charlie Harper. I'm guessing you missed that episode.

Suffice it to say you are not exactly a <air quotes> Rico Suave </air quotes> type of guy.

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You can't really pull off the Charlie Harper. I'm guessing you missed that episode.

You made me Google that quickly, because I had no idea about what you were talking about.

And you're right, I've never seen that episode because I've actually never seen that show before, not even a single episode.
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I can't handle any more rumors anymore. I just want this thing out by mid March to replace my iPad 2. As long as it has a higher resolution display and considerably higher performance on all benchmarks I'm happy.

I hope the display is made by Sharp.

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You made me Google that quickly, because I had no idea about what you were talking about.

And you're right, I've never seen that episode because I've actually never seen that show before, not even a single episode.

Not surprised since it doesn't air on the Fox news channel.

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Must. Buy. Can't. Control.
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Not surprised since it doesn't air on the Fox news channel.

I don't watch any sitcoms which airs on regular TV. I prefer cable series.

And whenever I'm not using my iPad 2, I like to keep a live stream of Fox News constantly running on it. It's good to keep informed, up to date and aware of the latest developments that criminal liberals are up to. Most people agree with me too, as Fox News is the top rated cable news channel by far.
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I don't watch any sitcoms which airs on regular TV. I prefer cable series.

And whenever I'm not using my iPad 2, I like to keep a live stream of Fox News constantly running on it. It's good to keep informed, up to date and aware of the latest developments that criminal liberals are up to. Most people agree with me too, as Fox News is the top rated cable news channel by far.

Faux news? What a joke......
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I don't watch any sitcoms which airs on regular TV. I prefer cable series.

And whenever I'm not using my iPad 2, I like to keep a live stream of Fox News constantly running on it. It's good to keep informed, up to date and aware of the latest developments that criminal liberals are up to. Most people agree with me too, as Fox News is the top rated cable news channel by far.

True, their TV ratings are higher, however, it leads me to believe Fox news viewers are by and large sitting at home unemployed rednecks looking to blame someone else for their problems and Fox is ready to accommodate them. In comparison the largely higher educated liberals who use the Internet and other news gathering organizations such as print which generally require actual reading, comprehension skills are much more informed and consequentialy more openminded.

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Faux news? What a joke......

Yes, I think that we all know by now that highly informed and intelligent liberals who do as they're told by their masters do not like Fox News. Thanks for your contribution.
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So sick of people saying SJ "defined" the retina as 300PPI. He NEVER did that EVER.

Go watch the video of the ip4 unveiling. He said: With a screen this size, at 12" from face, the limit is around 300PPI to be able to discern individual pixels.

Retina is defined as being able to not see pixels at normal viewing distance for your device. Normal viewing distance is a function of screen size.

Retnina does not equal 300PPI. 300PPI is only retina for a 3.5" screen at 12 inches. Get it? 300PPI is only applicable to 3.5" screens at 12 inches. A new retina calc muct be done for any screen size that is not 3.5".
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A rank, polluted thread, on what should have been a routine good-news story.

Responding to Apple ][ is useless, because he's obviously not for real. He's only here to creep out everybody who's decent.

Yes, I do think he's being paid to bring down the tone of the forum, as the expert in such matters, ConradJoe, said a while ago. Why? Because no one could possibly be as unevolved as he pretends to be and still be as literate.

You will notice that he never makes spelling or grammar errors. Anyone who holds the idiot-level opinions he pretends to hold would not be able to spell, punctuate or paragraph. Such people do not exist. He's a fake.
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So I've always been curious, especially on parts that are not associated with any released products, what happens when you scan the QR codes found on them? Do they just come back as blank?
post #37 of 56
When I watched the film, I'm sure Justin Timberlake told Zucks to drop the "The" out of Facebook.
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By this point I think its fairly safe to say the screen is confirmed. I'm more interested in the GPU though. Anand from Anandtech thinks its the 543MP4, the quad core version of the dual core chip found in the iPad 2 and the same one as the Vita has. That would be about double the performance for 4x the pixels though. It might be like the 3GS-4 change where overall graphics performance goes down or at least sideways because of the new resolution. I hope its the SGX600 series though.
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I will be buying the iPad 3 on its launch date and we all can expect that to be very soon.

PS... She is a cute chick though and I dig the glasses.
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She can come handle my Retina Display anytime she wants.



She's a cute girl but a little bit of an annoying voice. You know what they say, 'for every beautiful woman, there's a guy sick of listening to her s***'. Bet you can't make it through the full 8 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDWM6H6Pi8E

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By this point I think its fairly safe to say the screen is confirmed. I'm more interested in the GPU though. Anand from Anandtech thinks its the 543MP4, the quad core version of the dual core chip found in the iPad 2 and the same one as the Vita has. That would be about double the performance for 4x the pixels though. It might be like the 3GS-4 change where overall graphics performance goes down or at least sideways because of the new resolution. I hope its the SGX600 series though.

If it was the PowerVR 6, they'd be getting it a year before anyone else. Sony thinks they are getting it first with the Nova A9600, which ships in 2013:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/q...t-architecture

I think it will be a side-step for the iPad 3 like the 3GS->4 and then ship an iPad 3S in 2013 with 2.5GHz Cortex A15 and PowerVR Rogue Series 6.

I suspect the 543MP4 is the most likely because really it would just affect games but I doubt 3D games will render at 2048 x 1536. It would be better for them to render at 1024 x 768 and just turn up AA. 2D games like Tiny Wings and Angry Birds can double the resolution no problem.
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