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Santoanderson 
I seem to recall that this happened with Walt Disney & Walt Disney World. Disney and Co wanted to buy a crap-ton of swampland in South Florida, but wanted a fair market price for it, so they purchased it using various pseudonyms. When the sellers found out who had actually purchased the land, they were really kicking themselves.
If this is what Apple and others do, then this could be something to be looked into. However, Proview (Mr. Yang, in charge of all Proview companies) has acted from Day Zero with conspiracy to defraud and injure, which makes anything they say, well, just hilarious at this stage.
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xsu 
The entity that had sold iPad name to Apple's agent was Proview Taiwan, which held all rights to the iPad name for everywhere except China. The entity that did not sell iPad name to Apple's agent was Proview Shenzhen, located in China. Both entities are owned by the same person, but are legally two separate entities. But the original agreement between Proview Taiwan and Apple's agent was ambiguous enough that you can't really tell that Proview Shenzhen was not part of the deal. That gave Proview the opportunity to sue Apple when it started selling iPad in China.
So it's a fine muddled mess as to who was trying to defraud who when they signed the original agreement.
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I am a Zither Zather Zuzz 
It is refreshing to see a post with so few factual errors.
The only one I spotted was WRT ownership of the two subsidiaries.
Seemingly, Proview Hong Kong had an interest, and perhaps a controlling interest, in each of them. However, we don't know if Hong Kong was the sole owner, or whether each of the three had somewhat different ownership and creditor structures.
Nope, and nope. Standard FUD which seems to be rehashed endlessly. There is no parent, daughter, sister, brother, child, roommate-from-college company. It's all one person, Mr. Yang, who has acted with conspiracy to defraud and injure, who at all times was in charge of all Proview companies. There is also no "ambiguity", Mr. Yang and Proview continually indicated that they were the sole owners of the China Trademarks, no Proview-here or Proview-there.
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I am a Zither Zather Zuzz 
He may be personally liable. I can't argue with that.
Indeed, Mr. Yang is personally liable for fraud and injury. Additionally, he is acting in a libelious and damaging way to Apple and anyone concerned with fair and regulated global business practices with regard to this matter.