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According to a statement from Google on Monday, the amount of content on the Android Market is nearing that of Apple's App Store as it now offers over 450,000 apps, which has helped Android devices see an activation rate of 850,000 handsets a day.

The numbers were announced in a tweet and subsequent blog post by Google's Senior Vice President of Mobile Andy Rubin from the Mobile World Congress (MWC) in Barcelona, Spain, an annual event that is the world's largest mobile industry exhibition and conference.

As the Android platform continues to gather steam, Rubin writes that the number of apps in the company's online marketplace has more than tripled since a year ago to more than 450,000, which nears the 550,000 iOS apps industry leader Apple currently offers through its iTunes App Store.

The internet search giant notes that over one billion Android apps are downloaded each month by the over 800 different devices that have launched since the OS was introduced in 2008. Unlike Apple, which tallies downloads only made from the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch, Google is able to count app sales from a wide range of hardware partners like Samsung and Motorola.

With the bevy of OEMs dedicated to Android, Rubin noted that the platform's adoption rate had grown 250 percent year-to-year, and estimated that about 850,000 new devices are activated each day. He goes on to say that the total number of Android devices being used around the world has surpassed 300 million.


Andy Rubin tweets from MWC 2012. | Source: Twitter


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Congrats Andy.

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Finally, numbers that make it clear that high adoption rates was due to the high number of Andriod device manufacturers versus ONE iPhone maker.

But seriously, 800 since 2008?
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800..!!! what a mess...!!!!!
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I'm not impressed at all.

Unlike Apple, which is totally transparent and actually gives a breakdown of all devices it sells, there's no way to know what the breakdown and exact stats are with any of that fragmented Android baloney.

Why should anybody trust those figures? What percentage of those phones are free phones? What do they have to hide? Release real figures, not some vague sounding tweet.
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Impressive. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.
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Any verifiable evidence to back up the numbers or just plain defensive arbitrary numbers from Rubin in light of iPhone and iPad surge in sales? All I know is that last quarter sales of HTC, LG and Motorola were down from the previous quarter unless Samsung covered a lot of grounds (which I doubt) to make up for the shortfall in HTC/LG/Motorola sales numbers.

The best source of information is still the new activations data from the carriers which are materially different from Andy Rubin's numbers. In the US alone, iOS devices keep dominating the carriers wherevthese devices are available.

Man up Mr. Rubin. Tell us the real score!
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I'm not impressed at all.

Unlike Apple, which is totally transparent and actually gives a breakdown of all devices it sells, there's no way to know what the breakdown and exact stats are with any of that fragmented Android baloney.

Why should anybody trust those figures? What percentage of those phones are free phones? What do they have to hide? Release real figures, not some vague sounding tweet.

They don't have "real" figures. They have activations. Google doesn't know how many phones are sold or what they sell for. They just know how many are being activated through their servers.
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Any verifiable evidence to back up the numbers or just plain defensive arbitrary numbers from Rubin in light of iPhone and iPad surge in sales? All I know is that last quarter sales of HTC, LG and Motorola were down from the previous quarter unless Samsung covered a lot of grounds (which I doubt) to make up for the shortfall in HTC/LG/Motorola sales numbers.

The best source of information is still the new activations data from the carriers which are materially different from Andy Rubin's numbers. In the US alone, iOS devices keep dominating the carriers wherevthese devices are available.

Man up Mr. Rubin. Tell us the real score!

You got him, he's lying. Lol what the hell are you zealots smoking?
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post #11 of 161
300 million units sold / 800 different devices = average Android phone sells 375,000 units.
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They were at 700k activations in December so their growth rate is slagging off fast.

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Does anyone know if a user is counted as as activation again if their Android phone breaks and they get a replacement one?

Just about every person I know (more than one) that owns an Android phone has went through several replacements simply because of its shoddy quality.

Note to self: Cheap junk outsells pricier models.
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Does anyone know if a user is counted as as activation again if their Android phone breaks and they get a replacement one?

Just about every person I know (more than one) that owns an Android phone has went through several replacements simply because of its shoddy quality.

Note to self: Cheap junk outsells pricier models.

My experience as well.
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Does anyone know if a user is counted as as activation again if their Android phone breaks and they get a replacement one?

Just about every person I know (more than one) that owns an Android phone has went through several replacements simply because of its shoddy quality.

Note to self: Cheap junk outsells pricier models.

From Andy Rubin back in December:

"For those wondering, we count each device only once (i.e., we don't count re-sold devices), and "activations" means you go into a store, buy a device [and] put it on the network by subscribing to a wireless service."

Also, I have previously run the numbers and found that the stated calculations (at least from comparing the timelines) are accurate with an average activation, not just a good day that happened to peak on their stated activations.

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You got him, he's lying. Lol what the hell are you zealots smoking?

A daily dose of Denial.
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800 different devices? Holy shit. Might as well have 800 different versions of the OS too, because thats basically what it comes down to. But wait, this is 'good' for consumers because they have 'choice'. And that choices is hundreds of hundreds of different pieces of hardware without a single one being truly optimized or the ideal experience. Also, I love the fact that 5 iPhone model since launch are almost equal in sales to 800+ models of phones.

Android is 'winning'. Which is why phones being introduced now at MWC2012 and to be released in the future will be running Gingerbread, an ancient OS, when ICS was released 4 months ago. I guess it takes 6+ months to apply a shitty skin and see who can fuck up ICS the most. The fact that these companies have the gall to launch phones running gingerbread in Q2 2012, when ICS is such a significant update, shows how little they care about the end user experience. The fact that only ~ 1% of the Android user-base is running the lastest major version of the OS released months ago is such a horrible situation. I'm assuming byt the time Jellybean launches, they'll have a full 3% of users or so on ICS. And they really expect app developers to take advantage of new OS features at this rate? What a mess.
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From Andy Rubin back in December:

"For those wondering, we count each device only once (i.e., we don't count re-sold devices), and "activations" means you go into a store, buy a device [and] put it on the network by subscribing to a wireless service."


I have friends and family members that jump around between carriers a lot, and every time they jump to a different carrier, and ditch the old one, they get a brand new (typically Android) phone that was free or next-to-free upon activation. Do those count as "Re-sold" devices?
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MotoHTCSamsungLGAsusZTEAcerSony outsells Apple...

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800 different devices? Holy shit. Might as well have 800 different versions of the OS too, because thats basically what it comes down to. But wait, this is 'good' for consumers because they have 'choice'. And that choices is hundreds of hundreds of different pieces of hardware without a single one being truly optimized or the ideal experience. Also, I love the fact that 5 iPhone model since launch are almost equal in sales to 800+ models of phones.

Android is 'winning'. Which is why phones being introduced now at MWC2012 and to be released in the future will be running Gingerbread, an ancient OS, when ICS was released 4 months ago. I guess it takes 6+ months to apply a shitty skin and see who can fuck up ICS the most. The fact that only ~ 1% of the Android user-base is running the lastest major version of the OS released months ago is such a horrible situation. I'm assuming byt the time Jellybean launches, they'll have a full 3% of users or so on ICS. And they really expect app developers to take advantage of new OS features at this rate? What a mess.

You seem awfully angry. Unless you have skin in the game, I would seek help.
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From Andy Rubin back in December:

"For those wondering, we count each device only once (i.e., we don't count re-sold devices), and "activations" means you go into a store, buy a device [and] put it on the network by subscribing to a wireless service."


Thanks Solips. I still think there is a grey area there. I'm not necessarily referring to resold devices.

An individual with a wireless plan has a broken phone, they get a new phone, not a resold-phone. That phone has to be activated on the network. Activation+?

An individual's contract allows an upgrade to a better phone. They upgrade to the latest Android iPhone-clone and retire their old phone. Activation+?

An individual was an AT&T Android user, they jump ship and go to Verizon and get phone. Activation?
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I have friends and family members that jump around between carriers a lot, and every time they jump to a different carrier, and ditch the old one, they get a brand new (typically Android) phone that was free or next-to-free upon activation. Do those count as "Re-sold" devices?

yes, because they are.

Thats 76M a quarter, which is hugely impressive given it is Q1.
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They were at 700k activations in December so their growth rate is slagging off fast.

Of course it is. The overall smartphone adoption rate is much higher than a year ago, and the US and European markets are pretty mature now. They couldn't possibly continue huge growth rates forever, more than doubling activation rates every 12 months. Going from 10million to 300 million units in less than 3 years should be at least a little impressive to you. They sold fewer than 8M Android-based phones in all of 2009, and held less than 3% marketshare.
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I have friends and family members that jump around between carriers a lot, and every time they jump to a different carrier, and ditch the old one, they get a brand new (typically Android) phone that was free or next-to-free upon activation. Do those count as "Re-sold" devices?

To me that sounds like a new device. Re-sold would be taking one that had the IEMI activated by Google and then reactivating it through another account. Of course, it's all a little wonky as Rubin has been less than forthcoming with his qualifications of terms. The Google+ quote I list is the best we have from Google exec on what's counted.

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Thanks Solips. I still think there is a grey area there. I'm not necessarily referring to resold devices.

An individual with a wireless plan has a broken phone, they get a new phone, not a resold-phone. That phone has to be activated on the network. Activation+?

An individual's contract allows an upgrade to a better phone. They upgrade to the latest Android iPhone-clone and retire their old phone. Activation+?

An individual was an AT&T Android user, they jump ship and go to Verizon and get phone. Activation?

What Google doesn't tell you is that Gmail, calendars, Picasa, Docs, etc. are all different activations.

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You seem awfully angry. Unless you have skin in the game, I would seek help.

And you're just being apologetic to a mess of an Android ecosystem. He has a valid point. Fandroids harp about ICS, yet four months later hardly anyone is on it and new phones coming out are using an outdated OS. If history remains constant, they probably are botching it with proprietary skins interfaces.

If Apple came out with an new iPhone right now running iOS 4.0, I'd bet money you and plenty of other folks would be the first to slam Apple for pulling a stunt like that.

But Android?? Heck, it's a non-event. Guess the expectations are so low it's accepted practice now. Congratulations to the Android makers for having zero standards.
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Thanks Solips. I still think there is a grey area there. I'm not necessarily referring to resold devices.

An individual with a wireless plan has a broken phone, they get a new phone, not a resold-phone. That phone has to be activated on the network. Activation+?

Thats probably a sale in Apple's terminology, but I don't know since they may subsidise it.

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An individual's contract allows an upgrade to a better phone. They upgrade to the latest Android iPhone-clone and retire their old phone. Activation+?

Thats a sale and would be counted like that for Apple. So it is Apples and Apples here.

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An individual was an AT&T Android user, they jump ship and go to Verizon and get phone. Activation?

Thats a sale and would be counted like that for Apple.
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I'm on the Android Market right now and most of the apps are utils, so many task managers, launcher add-ons, themes, wallpaper apps, and rarely any good quality games or apps. Not even close to iOS app store in terms of quality and quantity of good titles.


Flea Market does not equal Bloomingdales.
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And what is Google really getting out of all these activations?

Apple's business model is so much more attractive: quality over quantity, profits over low-margin volume... Value for the customers in terms of usability and quality of experience (no fragmentation, no malware, etc.)...

Apple's net profits were $3 billion more than Google's revenues last quarter. Apple accounted for around 75% of the mobile phone industry's profits. What is Google really accomplishing with Android?
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Note the best selling phone in Greece was an Android phone with 160MB of storage. Android is winning¬°

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And what is Google really getting out of all these activations?

Apple's business model is so much more attractive: quality over quantity, profits over low-margin volume... Value for the customers in terms of usability and quality of experience (no fragmentation, no malware, etc.)...

Apple's net profits were $3 billion more than Google's revenues last quarter. Apple accounted for around 75% of the mobile phone industry's profits. What is Google really accomplishing with Android?

Google appears to have bigger plans for Android than simply a smartphone/tablet OS.
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They were at 700k activations in December so their growth rate is slagging off fast.

Android device activations peaked last summer at 4.4% weekly growth. They're down to 1.5% weekly growth this last quarter - but improved from the 1.2% weekly growth the previous quarter.

Of course, iOS device sales doubled from the previous quarter, but it's not fair comparing all the numerous iOS devices out there for sale to the meager few Android devices available for purchase.
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Android devices activations peaked last summer at 4.4% weekly growth. They're down to 1.5% weekly growth this last quarter - but improved from the 1.2% weekly growth the previous quarter.

Thanks for running the numbers.

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Of course, iOS device sales doubled from the previous quarter, but it's not fair comparing all the numerous iOS devices out there for sale to the meager few Android devices available for purchase.

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There are also 12 million android tablets out there. A million a month, wow, they are flying off the shelves.




(this figure excludes the fire)

The iPad sold more than 15 million units in less than a year and last QUARTER Apple shifted over 15 million iPad 2s.

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From Andy Rubin back in December:

"For those wondering, we count each device only once (i.e., we don't count re-sold devices), and "activations" means you go into a store, buy a device [and] put it on the network by subscribing to a wireless service."



So activations count only Android devices subscribed to a wireless service? What about wifi-only devices? Or 3G/4G devices that are bought but not subscribed to a carrier? I bought a 3G-capable iPad 2, but never got a plan for it and have been using my iPhone 4 as a hotspot.

I'm not asking you - I don't expect you to know - I'm just asking.
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. What is Google really accomplishing with Android?

google gets to insert more advertising. Not much advantage for other vendors IMO
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So activations count only Android devices subscribed to a wireless service? What about wifi-only devices? Or 3G/4G devices that are bought but not subscribed to a carrier? I bought a 3G-capable iPad 2, but never got a plan for it and have been using my iPhone 4 as a hotspot.

I'm not asking you - I don't expect you to know - I'm just asking.

According to Rubin those wi-fi only devices aren't counted in the activation numbers. That would make sense since you aren't activating them.
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Market share should only really matter to a developer, that is whether the platform has a large enough user base to support.

However, the other thing a developer is likely to consider is: money. So where is the money?

As long as Apple can maintain or grow its share of the market (evidence points to Android stealing market share ceded by Nokia, Blackberry, and feature phones rather than at Apple's expense), then developers should continue to prioritize iOS development as it has proven to be "where the money is".
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yes, because they are.

Thats 76M a quarter, which is hugely impressive given it is Q1.

Gartner had Android at 76M last quarter.

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1924314

It all fits.
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Google appears to have bigger plans for Android than simply a smartphone/tablet OS.

I understand what Google is trying to do: just get as many eyeballs onto their platform as possible to sell ads. But that's all that Google is driven by - to sell people and their info to advertisers. They're just an Internet real estate hog that attracts people with freebies (some good, some okay, some horrible) so they can sell targeted advertising.

I remember using web-based Gmail and corresponding with a friend in Korea writing in the Korean language. All of a sudden I started seeing ads in Korean related to the subjects and words that we were writing about. That was a very creepy feeling. I knew then that Google is out for me. Now the only Google thing I use is the default Maps app every now and then on my iPhone and iPad but that's it and I'm sure Apple will come up with a different map solution soon. I refuse to be part of an aggregate number that Google sells to other companies.
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