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Apple's anticipated third-generation iPad is expected to be a "significant" hardware update with a Retina Display, Siri voice recognition and 4G LTE connectivity -- all features that will help drive sales of 55 million units in 2012, according to a new report.

Analyst Shaw Wu with Sterne Agee said in a note to investors on Wednesday that his checks with industry sources have portrayed Apple's third-generation iPad, set to be unveiled next week, as a "significant" hardware refresh. In particular, he believes the inclusion of 4G long-term evolution data connectivity will be the key feature.

Sources who spoke with Wu reportedly indicated that Apple has made "notable progress" in improving battery life with 4G LTE devices. Power consumption issues with the high-speed wireless standard have been an issue for some of the first LTE smartphones to hit the market.

"This is due to AAPL's ownership of core intellectual property including systems design, semiconductors, battery chemistry, and software," Wu wrote.

With 4G LTE leading the way among a host of new features, Wu believes Apple's third-generation iPad will further differentiate the product from other options on the market, including the $199 Amazon Kindle Fire, and a host of tablets running Google's Android operating system.

"We view the potential inclusion of 4G LTE as key with speeds approaching that of a quality personal computer experience," he said. "We also view as a positive indicator that the upcoming iPhone refresh in the fall timeframe will likely include this key feature as well."

Apple sent out invitations on Tuesday for a media event set for next Wednesday, March 7 at 10 a.m. Pacific in San Francisco, Calif. "We have something you really have to see. And touch," Apple's invitation reads, featuring a picture of an iPad being touched by a fingertip.




The announcement of the event prompted Wu on Wednesday to increase his projected iPad sales for calendar 2012, from 51 million to 55 million. He sees Apple selling 10 million units in the March quarter as Apple begins to ramp up production, which will eventually reach volume in the June quarter.

Those iPad sales are expected to drive $158 billion in revenue and $43.30 in earnings per share for Apple's fiscal year 2012, while revenue is projected to grow to $179 billion in fiscal 2013.

Sterne Agee has also raised its price target for AAPL stock after the company reached record heights this week, pushing its market capitalization to a half-trillion dollars. Wu's latest price target calls for AAPL to reach $620, up from his previous prediction of $550.

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Apple's anticipated third-generation iPad is expected to be a "significant" hardware update with a Retina Display, Siri voice recognition and 4G LTE connectivity -- all features that will help drive sales of 55 million units in 2012, according to a new report....

While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.
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It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

Yes, but Apple's closest business ally (Microsoft, I mean), will soon announce MicroSoft Office Suite for iPad ... (well, they have no other choice, don't they ?)
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It just gets funnier every time!
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While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

I agree. Certainly won't be 'significant' enough to satisfy the whiners.

"why doesn't it slice and dice???" , "Apple are doomed" etc

Brace yourselves, I can smell the unwarranted disappointment already.
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Yes, but Apple's closest business ally (Microsoft, I mean), will soon announce MicroSoft Office Suite for iPad ... (well, they have no other choice, don't they ?)

Microsoft will never be a long-term success because they aren't a variety of fruit. Check out this new baby: Raspberry Pi, starts at $25, runs Linux.

The computing world will soon be divided into cheap running free software (these things) and great designs (Apple). Where does Microsoft fit in?

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While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

Your downplaying of what could potentially be a doubling of processor speed aside, when a device is almost entirely a screen, a double resolution display IS a big deal.

Are the only metrics you'd consider significant case design? Would you have preferred thinner and lighter with no internal improvements?
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While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

Yep. It's going to bomb just like the iPhone 4S which wasn't a significant update, either.

If the most plausible rumors are true, the iPad 3 will have twice the resolution (4 times the pixel density). It will be at least twice as fast. It will have a much better camera. From a user's perspective, that's a pretty significant update.

Would you be happier if they had a new case and didn't change anything else?
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Wu creates an artificial disappointment by expecting the iPad to include 4G.
It won't. See and touch.

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While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

Would you mind linking the specifications? I haven't seen the specifications as yet so I could make such a judgement. In fact, I had no idea that the specifications had been published.

If we assume that various rumors are true, such as:

Retina Display (264 ppi)
4G LTE
2x graphics performance (minimum)
2x processing performance (minimum)

When was the last time desktops or laptops received such a significant upgrade?
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While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update" ...
It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

4 or more times faster in GPU performance is nothing to be ashamed about.
A huge retina display is certainly a huge improvement. It will make the device suitable for professional deployment and serious applications intended to create new things.
You could say that the iPad has grown up now.

J.
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Lots of heavy action going on right now with Apple's stock:

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Microsoft will never be a long-term success because they aren't a variety of fruit. Check out this new baby: Raspberry Pi, starts at $25, runs Linux.

The computing world will soon be divided into cheap running free software (these things) and great designs (Apple). Where does Microsoft fit in?

Never underestimate the importance of a case...
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While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

Yeah! How lame of apple to roll out such a micro upgrade. They should at least add some coffee machine functionality. I am sooooo disappointed.
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Your downplaying of what could potentially be a doubling of processor speed aside, when a device is almost entirely a screen, a double resolution display IS a big deal.

Are the only metrics you'd consider significant case design? Would you have preferred thinner and lighter with no internal improvements?

Some people don't care about specs. Style victims only care when something looks different, so their friends will notice it and envy them when they pull it out.

Why is everyone neglecting Siri? I don't have an iPad yet, but I expect to buy an iPad3 because I expect it to have Siri. I think Siri is a game changer and it is still only in beta. I'm already writing longer texts and emails because of Siri, and using my iPhone as a sort of Siri microphone to dictate to my MacBook. When Siri matures it will change the way we approach computing.
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It just gets funnier every time!

going to have 7 days of these btw

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Lots of heavy action going on right now with Apple's stock:

Apples stock ignited the turbo booster!

I just hope you guys across the atlantic do some nice shopping, to kick the USD out of it's plummeting course. Every excitement about APPL gets a bit flattened by the diving USD exchange.
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Your downplaying of what could potentially be a doubling of processor speed aside, when a device is almost entirely a screen, a double resolution display IS a big deal.

Are the only metrics you'd consider significant case design? Would you have preferred thinner and lighter with no internal improvements?

I may have overstated my case (based on all the criticism), but my complaint was more of a "writer's complaint," anyway. I am not disappointed, I'm just saying it's an overstatement to refer to it as "significant."

The word "significant" is ... well a significant, weighty word. To me, a "significant update" is something different and new, something with import or a new design that "changes the game" sort of speak.

This is a great update, but it's not that (at least IMO).

This is the "off year" update (second year of the same model design). It's more akin to a new coat of paint or the insertion of a slightly higher performance motor in a car than it is a whole new design.
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I may have overstated my case (based on all the criticism), but my complaint was more of a "writer's complaint," anyway. I am not disappointed, I'm just saying it's an overstatement to refer to it as "significant."

The word "significant" is ... well a significant, weighty word. To me, a "significant update" is something different and new, something with import or a new design that "changes the game" sort of speak.

This is a great update, but it's not that (at least IMO).

This is the "off year" update (second year of the same model design). It's more akin to a new coat of paint or the insertion of a slightly higher performance motor in a car than it is a whole new design.

The first definition for 'significant' on dictionary.com is "important; of consequence.".

You don't think that 4 times the pixel density and at least twice the performance is of consequence?

You have 'significant' confused with 'revolutionary'.
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I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

But remember that a tablet is essentially only a screen with a processor. If what you call a slightly faster performance turns out to be a significantly faster performance, which in turn enables new apps, or better use of existing processor intensive apps, and it has a much better camera, and it has an industry leading high res screen, and the batter life remains the same.... wouldn't you call that a 'significant hardware update' ?
I would.
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This is the "off year" update (second year of the same model design). It's more akin to a new coat of paint or the insertion of a slightly higher performance motor in a car than it is a whole new design.

Just out of interest - do you consider the physical design of the tablet upgrade between the iPad 1 and iPad 2, significant. It is slightly thinner and lighter but essentially the same. Same size screen, bezel, aluminum case...

I would consider it significant but I can see why someone wouldn't.
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. . . I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update." . . .

Or not enough of a stretch, maybe. It will be the first real iPad.

What an all-screen computer that you hold in your hands should really look like.

People will become deeply involved with that screen. It will change photography. Movies will be made, books will be written and illustrated, to take advantage of it. It will change everything, as someone said here awhile ago, again.
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This is the "off year" update (second year of the same model design). It's more akin to a new coat of paint or the insertion of a slightly higher performance motor in a car than it is a whole new design.

Why should there be always a new design? I look at my iPad 2 or my iPhone 4 and still think wow they really did this perfect. Jonny Ive is for me a hero. He together with Steve brought consumer electronic design to a level that is unprecedented. Its long lasting, and doesn't have to change every year. Like that they can put more emphasis on what lies within. An other advantage is, that they can cut costs and let their design departments focus on new products.
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While I think they are right about the sales and will certainly buy one myself at the earliest opportunity, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "significant update."

It will look almost identical to the second generation version. It will be slightly faster and have a sharper screen.

You forgot the sarcasm tag.
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Lots of heavy action going on right now with Apple's stock:

Hold tight for the inevitable profit taking dip. Only question is will it occur just before or just after Wednesday's presentation? No worries though it will be back up within weeks.
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Please keep posting this. I LOL every time I see it!
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I agree. Certainly won't be 'significant' enough to satisfy the whiners.

"why doesn't it slice and dice???" , "Apple are doomed" etc

Brace yourselves, I can smell the unwarranted disappointment already.



LTE
Retina Display
Quad core chip
1 Gig RAM
Siri

All together = significant.

Same old same old with a better CPU = not significant.
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It just gets funnier every time!

Actually it gets less funny.
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When was the last time desktops or laptops received such a significant upgrade?

Probably when Wintel went from the '386 to the '486.
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LTE
Retina Display
Quad core chip
1 Gig RAM
Siri

All together = significant.

Same old same old with a better CPU = not significant.

Well we know by the invitation that the display has changed and it only makes sense to double the display so it's not crazy to assume the display is "retina". But yeah, I'm personally looking for 1GB RAM + Quad core. The display will need to be accompanied by such changes or it will slow down the device and the last thing I want is the iPad 3 to be more sluggish than iPad 2.

When I hear fanboys arguing for dual quad it actually angers me on a personal level.
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I just hope you guys across the atlantic do some nice shopping, to kick the USD out of it's plummeting course. Every excitement about APPL gets a bit flattened by the diving USD exchange.

No luck. Only Drachma and Desutchmark can prop U.S. Dollar up now.
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Hold tight for the inevitable profit taking dip. Only question is will it occur just before or just after Wednesday's presentation? No worries though it will be back up within weeks.

Or just some big investors want lots of cash in a hurry. They do that every morning now; $2-3 dip every morning then turns green again. So when Renaissance, Agrilcourt, Vanguard or whathaveyou want a billion or more that very morning and you retail investors guys canot keep up with margin calls?
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Wu... Whoa!

Wu.... who?
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Lots of heavy action going on right now with Apple's stock:


Apple stock will go only one direction forever: Up.
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Please keep posting this. I LOL every time I see it!

I fully intend to repost this for every single iPad 3 news post. :P
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Apple stock will go only one direction forever: Up.

Keep dreaming.
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Why should there be always a new design? I look at my iPad 2 or my iPhone 4 and still think wow they really did this perfect.

Lots of people said the same thing about the original iPhone.
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