MWC names Galaxy S II best smartphone, iPad 2 best tablet - Page 3

Originally Posted by sranger

I have a Samgung Galaxy Nexus... It is a good phone. Better than the iPhone 4S is some way and not as good in others. I know this is a pro Apple site, but Samsung does make good phones and the Android phones are completely different than the iPhone....

To say that Samsung copied the iPhone is to show you ignorance.... Apples and Oranges.... (Pun intended)

Originally Posted by Galbi

His issue was with the 25% number, hypothesizing that what the original poster said is untrue and even suggesting its a made up number.


You are talking about something completely different.

Lets stick with the issue at hand people. He raised an issue I called him out. Done deal.

This was the conversation

Originally Posted by dasanman69

Another one with broken logic, support is pre profit and paid for with Apple care. Accessories and developers don't come from Apples profit.

Originally Posted by SolipsismX

Sent from my Foxconn iPhone.

Originally Posted by Galbi



http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/08/sam...phone-4-parts/

25.66% to be more exact

What now Solip? Would that be considered an "ass pulling" to you?

Dont be too dismissive of anything thrown against you.

Originally Posted by macarena

Is this serious? You want to tell us Apple pays $26 for 16 GB Flash?

Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz

I don't like Samsung phones.

Originally Posted by macarena

Is this serious? You want to tell us Apple pays $26 for 16 GB Flash? When you can buy Retail packed Flash Class 10 for less than $10 at Amazon, you think the largest buyer of Flash in the world, who buys chips direct and integrates them pays $26?

Originally Posted by Berp

Public flogging for a vowel ...instead of for a lack of vow, ...how is that for a proof of content. One can't go farther downhill when one as hit rock bottom from the start ...right...?

Originally Posted by Tune

"Samsung is the Foxconn of SoCs."

LMAO I didn't know Austin was a part of China now.

Originally Posted by Icelus

I was stuck at AT&T waiting for some customer service, and had a chance to try out their selection of Android phones. I was a little surprised by how cheap they all seemed. Especially, the Galaxy S II. Sure it has a bigger screen, but it just seems clunky, the resolution suffers, and the size seems to make it awkwardly proportioned. The size seems as exciting as "A PEN!!!". It is just another poorly thought out feature to look good on the spec sheet for the clueless geeks.

It always seems absurd to see these Android idiots proudly walking around with their phones as if no one notices it is a cheap, plastic, pieces of junk, cluttered with logos and buttons, with a an interface with too much crap everywhere. There is the search for search button, because no one can find search, there is the weather widget because geeks obviously don't get out much (look out the window or get an iPhone and just ask Siri if you need local weather)

Originally Posted by SolipsismX

I asked a very simple question about a stupidly made comment. "iPhone is 25% Samsung." says nothing about what is being measured. If a poster isn't willing to qualify or in any way back up a statement is not possible they did pull it out their ass.

Perhaps English isn't your first language but you didn't me out on anything. I never claimed not implied that he did pull it out his ass unless you want to claim I also implied he used the price of volume, weight or component prices to come to his conclusion. Funny how you failed to note those.

But moving along to the graph you posted... since when is iSuppli's comically limited breakdown and pricing of products of any authority?

Even if we pretend that everything listed is accurate and everything listed are the only things that are cost centers in dealing with products why would you assume that 25.66% are Samsung products. How to do you jump to say that the entirety of the A5 PoP/SoC is Samsung's IP when Apple and others beside Samsung are clearly involved with its design? Apple hires Samsung to put together their PoP/SoC by taking various components and putting them together. They are intermediaries for the A5 chip. They are the Foxconn of SoCs.

Why do you conveniently ignore Elpida? Hitachi? Both are companies that involved in Apple's A* SoC and NAND. Did you really think that Samsung was the only vendor Apple uses because they are contracted to manufacture the A5?

Sent from my Foxconn iPhone.


PS: Next time try to actually answer my questions about what is being measured and I won't end up looking like such an idiot.

Originally Posted by SolipsismX

Surely you know I prefer my iPhone HW, OS, ecosystem and support other other vendors but I have to give credit where it's due...

I like Samsung's phones. They are doing a lot of interesting things and their build quality, fit and finish seem better than other Android-based vendors. Even their Bada OS is pretty damn refined for its age and has a lot of potential.

I couldn't care less about their business tactics. They aren't doing anything that pollutes a river or destroys a village for all I know some IP stealing is pretty tame. They are taking a risk and it seems to be paying off, More power to them.

Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz

looking for high-fives by spouting out pools of bullshit?

Originally Posted by Icelus

Ah, someone is all worked up because someone insulted their phone.

Just some obvious observations, if it where bullshit it probably wouldn't sting so bad.

Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz

I don't like the feel of them...they feel cheap even though they are more durable than most (due to more flexible materials).

Originally Posted by Icelus

Ah, someone is all worked up because someone insulted their phone.

Just some obvious observations, if it where bullshit it probably wouldn't sting so bad.

Originally Posted by SolipsismX

I don't mind the plastic. It's certainly not in the league of the iPhone but it feels well built compared to others in the Android class. iFixit breakdowns show a well made device. Old like to get my hands on a Bada-based device but first I need to get a Lumia.

Originally Posted by LogicNReason

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with AD.

Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz

To be fair Samsung is an apple copycat in a lot of ways. Hence why I abhor touchwhiz and especially v1 with the galaxy S.

But they are great hardware makers. Could be better

I do place HTC above them and I like where they're going with their One series.

Originally Posted by GTR

Any of you guys own a Galaxy SII?

Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz

unlike you I don't give a flying fuck if you do not like my phone...I do not go around spreading unsubstantiated BS about another brand simply because they do not align with my interests...

Originally Posted by einsteinbqat

I saw this picture of phones before the iPhone and phone after the iPhone. Strangely, all the phones after the iPhone looked like the iPhone. Anyway.

Originally Posted by Icelus

Unsubstantiated?

Just look at the masses of android phones, it is hard to miss how badly they are designed. If you think I am bias, try me, just design a decent phone for a change.

How badly do you really need search that you need a perminent button? Maybe just make things easier to find?

Why do you need your cell phone providers logo printed on the front of the phone. Hey, if I buy a phone I know who made it so I don't need a perminent advertisement day in and day out on the front of my phone.

You can get offended if you like, but bad design is bad design.

Originally Posted by Icelus

Why do you need your cell phone providers logo printed on the front of the phone. Hey, if I buy a phone I know who made it so I don't need a perminent advertisement day in and day out on the front of my phone.

Originally Posted by hungover

That is a rather silly point. Off hand, I can't think of any current handset without the makers name on it. Some put them on the back, so that you "advertise" it to everyone else when you use it...

Originally Posted by Icelus

backpack of their phone Android

Originally Posted by Mikeb85

The nice thing about the capacitive search button, is that no matter what app you're in (browser, Google maps, Google earth, Yahoo, Bloomberg, etc...), you press that 1 button and you're searching, no matter where the search function is located in that app (not all app makers put it in a consistent place). Ditto for the menu button. You may not like the 'design', but some people like the functionality.

Originally Posted by Icelus

BINGO!!!

I actually think the coolest thing Google ever did was design the Android logo, or have it designed. It really isn't a logo, it is a smoking icon, which is the only tech logo out there that can stand up to Apples logo. If they were to demand that every Android phone maker put that logo 3/4 inch on the backpack of their phone Android might stand a chance of standing up against Apple's marketing.

I have nothing against logos, I just don't want to see it day in and day out while I am using my phone. And many service provider's logos just plain suck....such as Verizon's which never seems to fit anywhere.

Originally Posted by Red Oak

Android is all Samsung at this point. And, I do not fear any company that has the bal** and ineptitude to bring something like the Note to the market. I checked it out at Best Buy today. Exhibit A for POS

No fear

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Recent statistics put Android way ahead of the pack as it gobbled up 50.9 percent of the market in 2011. In comparison, second place Apple's iOS managed only a 23.8 percent market despite growing some 8 percent year to year.

Just as Android continues to rule the handset market, so does the iPad with its complete domination of the tablet space.

Originally Posted by Marvin

This is not correct. Google themselves have just reported that Android devices number 300 million:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/g...illion-device/

Apple reported 250 million iOS devices in October:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/a...-devices-sold/

They shipped 37 million iPhones, 15 million iPads and about 7 million iPod Touches since then so that gives Apple a grand total of:

309 million iOS devices.

They are at least level-pegging. Android is not at 50% marketshare nor even close to it - they have 50% sales share, which is almost meaningless at present. It means that Android will grow more quickly than iOS but what matters right now is shipped volumes.

Anyway, while the Galaxy S2 is a nice smartphone, it has actually sells much less than the iPhone. 20 million units in 10 months. Apple sold nearly double that in 3 months. I would nonetheless call it the benchmark Android phone and you can't give the award to Apple every year, that would make for a boring award show - it also runs the risk of a meaningless award show falling out of media circulation.

Originally Posted by Marvin

you can't give the award to Apple every year, that would make for a boring award show - it also runs the risk of a meaningless award show falling out of media circulation.