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Supply chain sources are claiming Apple will unveil a cheaper 8GB iPad 2 model alongside third-generation iPad models at its media event next week.

Taiwanese industry publication DigiTimes reported on Thursday that, according to sources within Apple's "upstream supply chain," the iPad maker will release the smaller capacity iPad 2 in order to cover a wider price range within the tablet market and fight off threats from upcoming Windows 8-based tablets.

Apple is also facing price pressure from below, as Amazon's $199 Kindle Fire tablet has attracted millions of customers. The company has, in the past, released lower capacity versions of its iPhone

Thursday's report was unclear, though, as it said Apple would release just two "iPad 3" sizes: a 16GB and 32GB version, without explaining if and why the company would abandon its current high-capacity 64GB iPad model.

The publication also claimed that Apple has been "aggressively placing orders" for the third-generation iPad, with first quarter shipments expected to double original estimates.

Apple confirmed on Tuesday via invitation earlier reports that had pegged March 7 as the date of the unveiling of the next-generation iPad. The event will take place at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, Calif., the site of the past two iPad releases.

The third-generation iPad is widely believed to include a Retina Display with a pixel density of 264 pixels per inch. Other expected upgrades include an improved camera, faster processor, and possibly 4G LTE data speeds.


Apple's March 7 event invitation, via The Loop.


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No 64GB option doesn't make any sense to me.. I was hoping for a 128GB option..

With apps getting bigger especially even more with the expected high resolution iPad 3.. Those new interactive iBooks being huge as well..
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It's a Digitimes rumor.

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No 64GB option doesn't make any sense to me.. I was hoping for a 128GB option..

32 and 64 makes more sense than 16 and 32, especially with the textbook issue (some of them are as much as 3gb for one title

And given the school thing 8GB makes no sense. The average grade school kid has 5 texts and even if they are all under the recommended 2GB mark that's pushing capacity since an 8gb is really more like 6.5GB of usable storage.

I can buy only two size levels of the iPad 3 with one staying in the iPad 2 but I think it will be

16 GB ipad 2 (perhaps wifi only)
32 GB ipad 3
64 GB ipad 3

oh and the Kindle Fire thing is total bull. Tim Cook even basically said so when he said that Apple's not worried about such tablets because they are for a different type of customer.

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It sure doesn't seem to make sense of why there'd be no 64 GB model iPad. I always though that consumers preferred more memory when making an iPad purchase. Unless Apple thinks that everyone will be satisfied with some cloud service. I hope not. In fact, I was hoping for a 128 GB iPad to keep music and videos on. Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to deal with it using some external WiFi storage device if this rumor is true.
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32 and 64 makes more sense than 16 and 32, especially with the textbook issue (some of them are as much as 3gb for one title

And given the school thing 8GB makes no sense. The average grade school kid has 5 texts and even if they are all under the recommended 2GB mark that's pushing capacity since an 8gb is really more like 6.5GB of usable storage.

I can buy only two size levels of the iPad 3 with one staying in the iPad 2 but I think it will be

16 GB ipad 2 (perhaps wifi only)
32 GB ipad 3
64 GB ipad 3

oh and the Kindle Fire thing is total bull. Tim Cook even basically said so when he said that Apple's not worried about such tablets because they are for a different type of customer.

These people are always saying that Apple is feeling pressure from the Kindle Fire and yet I hear that there were plenty of Kindle Fire returns and consumers saying they would never buy another one. There's really too much FUD going around about Apple being under pressure from some small company or another. One would naturally figure that it's the larger company that would be putting pressure on the smaller company, not the reverse.
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These people are always saying that Apple is feeling pressure from the Kindle Fire and yet I hear that there were plenty of Kindle Fire returns and consumers saying they would never buy another one. There's really too much FUD going around about Apple being under pressure from some small company or another. One would naturally figure that it's the larger company that would be putting pressure on the smaller company, not the reverse.

Apple's under no pressure from anyone. The closest to any pressure is Proview, and that is only because the way it's dealt with in China may set a precedent with how future IP disputes with China are handled by other American multinationals. A Chinese company can't sell a trademark and then reneg on the agreement. If the Chinese courts side with Proview, than that tells multinationals that Chinese companies are free to steal their trademarks they've already sold.

As for pressure from other products. Hardly. Everything that isn't an iPad is a flop, and Amazon is losing money on the Fire. That's a bad business model.
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Digitimes rumor.

Why haven't they been banned for stupidity yet?
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The pressure from the Kindle Fire may be nonexistant at the moment, but the question at Apple should be how that changes when Amazon releases a 10 inch model that more directly competes with the iPad. Eye toward the future and all, not the present. I expect Amazon is working hard to bring their "true" tablet out at $300, losing perhaps $20-$30 on every model sold. If anything that is the product that has Apple's attention.
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If this is true, then Apple is moving in the WRONG direction.

LESS MEMORY?

The cloud is all good unless you are paying extra for all that extra download and upload of data.

The cloud is all good unless you are not connected to the cloud and don't have any choice.

The cloud is all good unless you are trying to edit lots of video.

MORE MEMORY never hurts, but too little memory is a royal pain in the ass.

The cost of memory is actually pretty cheap. Let the market place determine the max memory. Let's not take a giant step backwards.

Who was it that said, "No one will ever need more than 64k...?"
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The pressure from the Kindle Fire may be nonexistant at the moment, but the question at Apple should be how that changes when Amazon releases a 10 inch model that more directly competes with the iPad. Eye toward the future and all, not the present. I expect Amazon is working hard to bring their "true" tablet out at $300, losing perhaps $20-$30 on every model sold. If anything that is the product that has Apple's attention.

Remember when netbooks were all the rage? Those were actually making a sliver of a profit on each sale and yet Apple didn't engage in that market segment so I can't see Apple mirroring Amazon's loss leader. As other people have stated (and myself for about a year) I can't see a smaller iPad but I can see a larger iPod Touch.

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Remember when netbooks were all the rage? Those were actually making a sliver of a profit on each sale and yet Apple didn't engage in that market segment so I can't see Apple mirroring Amazon's loss leader. As other people have stated (and myself for about a year) I can't see a smaller iPad but I can see a larger iPod Touch.

Apple will compete following the same game plan they did with the iPod. Watch and see.

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32 and 64 makes more sense than 16 and 32, especially with the textbook issue (some of them are as much as 3gb for one title)

I can buy only two size levels of the iPad 3 with one staying in the iPad 2 but I think it will be

16 GB ipad 2 (perhaps wifi only)
32 GB ipad 3
64 GB ipad 3

Yeah, that seems more likely to me. I think they are basing this speculation on the iPhone change to the Retina display where the 16GB 3GS dropped to 8GB and the iPhone 4 only shipped with 16GB and 32GB. The iPhone now has 64GB models so they won't exclude the iPad from this. If anything, they could even go up to 128GB.

The iPad 3 motherboard that was pictured previously had 32GB of flash storage and I suspect that was the entry model. The high resolution display is going to require more storage so I don't see why they would keep the storage choices at the lower levels.
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This makes more sense to me than a smaller sized iPad... but many may dis agree..
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It's a Digitimes rumor.

Toss in circular file.

Agreed.

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NFS -> 780 MB
Fight Night -> 470 MB
GT Racing -> 465 MB
Draw Race 2 -> 463 MB
Real Golf HD -> 460 MB
Real Racing 2 -> 446 MB
Street Fighter IV -> 443 MB
Let's Golf! 2 HD -> 440MB
Shadow Guardian -> 394 MB

etc etc etc

An 8GB iPad would give you something like 5 or 6 GB of available space. I'd use that up with the 10 largest of my 150+ apps... and that is before setting up music/videos/photos etc

IMO Apple shouldn't even sell the 16GB as it isn't big enough. 8GB would be beyond stupid, and Apple aren't going to do it.

Digitimes sucks.
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8GB is way too limiting. Apple can't be as stupid as DigiTimes claim they are.

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No 64GB option doesn't make any sense to me.. I was hoping for a 128GB option..

With apps getting bigger especially even more with the expected high resolution iPad 3.. Those new interactive iBooks being huge as well..

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It's a Digitimes rumor. Toss in circular file.

Zactly. Complete poppycock.

Apple hasn't been making iPad 2s since December. Absurd to think they would compromise capacity to make all the iPad 3s they can since demand will exceed supply all year long.

Plus a huge refurb/used market of the old iPads will cover all the low spenders' needs. Duh.

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Uh-oh! It's Digitimes again. TallestSkill is going to have a conniption!
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If this is true, then Apple is moving in the WRONG direction.

LESS MEMORY?

The cloud is all good unless you are paying extra for all that extra download and upload of data.

The cloud is all good unless you are not connected to the cloud and don't have any choice.

The cloud is all good unless you are trying to edit lots of video.

MORE MEMORY never hurts, but too little memory is a royal pain in the ass.

The cost of memory is actually pretty cheap. Let the market place determine the max memory. Let's not take a giant step backwards.

Who was it that said, "No one will ever need more than 64k...?"

How dare you question Apple! They know what's best for you!
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Apple wouldn't release a 64gb 4S but than stop a 64gb iPad 3 release when iPad can be used as a computer more than an iPhone. Especially when iPad is rumored to have retnia display and your going to want to download movies and watch them on iPad .Doesn't make any sense. Digitimes always reports the dumbest rumors.
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It's rather apparent that there will not be an 8GB iPad because that's just not enough memory for a device like that.

It's as if some genius editor at the publication in question thought that it would be too boring to report that Apple would continue to offer the iPad 2 at a reduced price (which is certainly going to happen) so the memory downgrade wrinkle was thrown into the mix.

I don't doubt that Apple will, as some have suggested, have to charge more for an iPad with a high-resolution screen. At the size of the iPad, that technology is expensive. As such, Apple needs to offer the iPad 2 and can do it, with no changes, at a reduced price. Something like $429 for the iPad 2 sold for as long as there is a market for it, and set the new iPad at let's say $579.

I see a market for both products. Many would be thrilled to have the option of paying a good price for a viable product like the iPad 2 and many would gladly pay extra for the HD iPad. It broadens the product's appeal. Besides, if Apple were to bring out the iPad 3 costing more with no lower cost option as a companion, there would be a lot of complaining. With a $429 iPad available, what's to complain about. If you want the latest and greatest, pay for it. If you don't need that much performance, Apple has you covered.

In any case, next week this all comes to an end. And no, Apple is not working on an 8-inch iPad. Ain't gonna happen. A revised Touch, certainly, but a smallish iPad, seriously, who needs that if there is a $429 iPad. Pointless.
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I think an iPad2 with 8GB is really a great move, if and only if, they drop it to $299.

And iPad2 8GB could hit the Kindle Fire and probably kill it forever. Same capacity as the Fire but it's an iPad, the real thing you may say. People who consider a Fire will invest $100 more in better get an iPad. That kind of move has worked with iPhones pretty well, making the 3GS a hot gadget even being a 3 years old product. That's crazy!.

So, only if it cost $299 I can see it as a great deal. More than that it'll be a complete fail.
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post #23 of 56
Why do rumor sites report on anything DigiTimes says when most of it is just garbage? An 8 GB iPad makes zero sense as you'd have little to no room to save anything on it.
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I think an iPad2 with 8GB is really a great move, if and only if, they drop it to $299.

And iPad2 8GB could hit the Kindle Fire and probably kill it forever. Same capacity as the Fire but it's an iPad, the real thing you may say. People who consider a Fire will invest $100 more in better get an iPad. That kind of move has worked with iPhones pretty well, making the 3GS a hot gadget even being a 3 years old product. That's crazy!.

So, only if it cost $299 I can see it as a great deal. More than that it'll be a complete fail.

Quite honestly I don't think Apple cares about the kindle fire. In their Q1 earnings call Tim Cook basically said there was no evidence the Fire was eating into iPad sales. We kep hearing these rumors about a smaller iPad b/c the media created a narrative that the kindle fire was going to be an iPad killer so to keep that narrative alive they keep pushing these 'Apple will make a smaller iPad to compete with the Fire' rumors. Even thoug there is little to no evidence the Fire has eaten into iPad sales.
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If this is true, then Apple is moving in the WRONG direction.

LESS MEMORY?

The cloud is all good unless you are paying extra for all that extra download and upload of data.

The cloud is all good unless you are not connected to the cloud and don't have any choice.

The cloud is all good unless you are trying to edit lots of video.

MORE MEMORY never hurts, but too little memory is a royal pain in the ass.

The cost of memory is actually pretty cheap. Let the market place determine the max memory. Let's not take a giant step backwards.

Who was it that said, "No one will ever need more than 64k...?"

Memory... Too much is never enough...
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No 64GB option doesn't make any sense to me.. I was hoping for a 128GB option..

With apps getting bigger especially even more with the expected high resolution iPad 3.. Those new interactive iBooks being huge as well..

And don't forget better camera.
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I think they'll keep the 16 GB and drop it to $399. 8 GB can be used up with two movies.

Also this invitation image..that looks like an adult finger which makes that calendar icon huge. Maybe a bigger "pro" iPad? Unless they used a midget's finger or that guy from the Burger King commercials I don't see how that icon is so much bigger.

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I see many people doubting an 8GB iPad, but I can see that if Apple is really trying to get a that much debated $299 price point that has been rumored- but that would be the only case. Frankly, if you have to make it 8GB to offer that price point I think they should forget it.

But I agree with 16GB and 32GB rumors being garbage (at least I really hope so). My guess is they have heard there will only be two models and they are assuming the sizes. If we only have two models of iPads I think it will be 32GB and 64GB. So two models instead of three until flash prices drop and they can offer a 128GB model at the right price point. To me, that makes sense. They could extend the product line with a 128GB iPad3 anytime they wanted to (like they did with white iPhone).
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Memory... Too much is never enough...

Plenty of debate about whether Gates ever actually said it or not but "640K ought to be enough (memory) for anybody"

8GB is stupidly low for a tablet. Hell I think it's too low for an iPhone too since there is no expandability, but clearly plenty of people disagree w/that.
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If they put an micro-SD expansion slot on it we will have a great low cost product. If not, then 8g is pretty low if you cant expand it at a later time.

My price target for this is 299$. In fact, has a shareholder, beside expecting a great ipad 3, my attention will be more focus on any low cost product they may show.

Apple needs to get rid of the "apple tax" mentality if they want to dominate a market. Apple caring about its market share in the tablet segment would be great.
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I think an iPad2 with 8GB would sell like hotcakes at 349$. Yes, it's got little storage, but many people use these primarily for web, email and Facebook.

Look how well the current iPad2 with 16GB is selling at 499$.

I think they might even price the iPad2 with 8GB at 399$, and it would still sell well.
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Apple needs to get rid of the "apple tax" mentality if they want to dominate a market. Apple caring about its market share in the tablet segment would be great.

I agree with you 100%. Apple needs to really get back to basics and figure out how they're going to become more than a niche player in the important tablet market. Oh wait...

Having said that Apple will need (and I'm sure they will) be vigilant about pricing. It would be a tragedy if the Mac-Windows scenario played out again, where Apple had the lead and lost it to low-cost competitors and for many years the Mac OS was almost irrelevant as a software platform. If iOS ends up being overtaken by some other mobile app, so that only 20% of less of consumers and professionals use iOS devices companies will be very quick to switch reduce their development of iOS applications.

Today the Kindle Fire maybe be (arguably) irrelevant, but the idea of much-cheaper, almost-as-good non-iOS tablets is a very serious threat over the next couple of years.
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Apple caring about its market share in the tablet segment would be great.

No. Apple never cares about market share.
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I'm hoping for 128GB model as that's the one I want to buy.
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I hope so hypercommunist - I've not bought an Ipad - but an 8gb $349 Ipad2 would be PERFECT for me!
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If they put an micro-SD expansion slot on it we will have a great low cost product. If not, then 8g is pretty low if you cant expand it at a later time.

My price target for this is 299$. In fact, has a shareholder, beside expecting a great ipad 3, my attention will be more focus on any low cost product they may show.

Apple needs to get rid of the "apple tax" mentality if they want to dominate a market. Apple caring about its market share in the tablet segment would be great.

SD or USB would make the iPad far more useful to me. Even an 8GB iPad would work. Absent an actual wired ethernet connection those are the only reasonable way to get info from a business network where IT doesn't allow WiFi. Most ITs aren't too happy with SD cards or USB sticks either. Sadly I don't think Apple will include any of these though.
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I hope so hypercommunist - I've not bought an Ipad - but an 8gb $349 Ipad2 would be PERFECT for me!

Keep dreaming.
post #39 of 56
Makes no sense. I can understand a 8GB iPhone but not a iPad. IPads are more content reliant than an iPhone thus needing more memory for optimal use.
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I think the iPad market is different than the iPhone market. Just because they kept the older phones around doesn't mean they will make the same move with the iPad. The phone is different because it is subsidized. About the only people I think who would be interested in a iPad 2 with only 8 GB are perhaps senior citizens who don't have music, videos, games and would use it mostly for keeping in touch with the grand kids, surfing the web and reading a book or two.

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