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Further disputing continued speculation that Apple could do away with the home button on its next-generation iPad, a new picture claiming to show glass panels for black and white third-generation iPad models show the home button and front-facing camera located in positions identical to the iPad 2.

The pictures of the so-called "iPad 3" digitizer and front glass panel were posted on Thursday by Fix-iPhones.com. The black and white front panels appear to be the same part, complete with redesigned ribbon cable, that surfaced out of the Far East last week.

The front panel once again suggests that Apple's third-generation iPad will look largely identical to the iPad 2, with a home button at the bottom of the device and a hole for a forward-facing camera at the top.

The leaked component should also help to dispel speculation that Apple could do away with the home button entirely on its next iPad. That idea cropped up again this week after Apple sent out invitations for a media event next week that showed an iPad Calendar application icon being touched at the bottom of the screen without a home button.

But since the iPad home screen can be operated in any orientation, it's more likely that the pictured iPad included on the invitation is simply an iPad being used in landscape mode, explaining why there is no home button to be seen.




That the parts shown on Thursday are available in both black and white also suggests that Apple will offer the same two color options it had provided customers with since last year's iPad 2 launch.




While the front panel of the next iPad is expected to look largely identical to the current iPad 2, the new device could be slightly thicker than its predecessor. One measurement of a purported "iPad 3" rear panel publicized earlier this week found that it is 0.81 millimeters thicker than the same part on the iPad 2.

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Oh, look. Home Buttons. What a surprise.

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Hope the UI is updated.
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It looked like portrait. The invite is probably a mock-up and the home button got left out.
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Having studied Apple's hardware update cycle over last few years, I can say with measured confidence that the following will be on offer: Double the resolution, A6 chip req to power such a display, marginal improvement in camera's ( may be max max 3MP back with 1080p, 720p front). I do not expect 4G - If at all I think it will be availble only in US as there is absolutely no reason to have 4G ready in Europe/ rest of the world. same 10 Hr battery but larger in size to power high res screen, No NFC. On sofware side, iOS 5.1. I think Siri has a good chance as it will separate iPad further from kindle and competition. I would have loved new maps as apple has been working on a major maps overhual for while ( isnt it time!!!) but I think they may launch that as a major feature in iOS 6 to coincide with iPhone launch later in the year. What say, guys!
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Hope the UI is updated.

I'll indulge your nonsense. Do you mean "updated" as in "something that isn't an iPod touch interface made bigger" or "updated" as in "logical, rational UI tweaks that streamline what the iPad already has going for it"?

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It looked like portrait. The invite is probably a mock-up and the home button got left out.

How could you possibly say that? The image doesn't show anywhere near enough of the device to make that determination. And Apple doesn't use fakes for their product photos. It's a real device.



Also, I think I'm going to do this myself for all future Apple invites.

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Or it could just be a modified iPad 2.
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Or it could just be a modified iPad 2.

I think the 'purported' part can be confirmed or eliminated based on that connector thing matching up with the current iPad's or the also purported iPad 3's that we've seen.

I don't suppose that's an actual response, so I'll just ask, "Why would they modify the iPad 2?"

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post #9 of 45
Oh look Apple is not going to do anything radical...didn't see that coming.

And the invitation most likely does not have any hidden meanings, we just love to theorize
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I'll indulge your nonsense. Do you mean "updated" as in "something that isn't an iPod touch interface made bigger" or "updated" as in "logical, rational UI tweaks that streamline what the iPad already has going for it"?



How could you possibly say that? The image doesn't show anywhere near enough of the device to make that determination. And Apple doesn't use fakes for their product photos. It's a real device.


Also, I think I'm going to do this myself for all future Apple invites.

Isn't the hand shown making an obscene gesture?
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Isn't the hand shown making an obscene gesture?

Pointing with your index finger is an obscene gesture?

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I'll indulge your nonsense. Do you mean "updated" as in "something that isn't an iPod touch interface made bigger" or "updated" as in "logical, rational UI tweaks that streamline what the iPad already has going for it"?



How could you possibly say that? The image doesn't show anywhere near enough of the device to make that determination. And Apple doesn't use fakes for their product photos. It's a real device.



Also, I think I'm going to do this myself for all future Apple invites.



Good stuff. I guess that settle everything!
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Oh, look. Home Buttons. What a surprise.

Agreed. No one in their right mind thinks that the iPad 3 will lack a home button.
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post #14 of 45
I really hoped for something edge-to-edge like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9s2oYUy_cVY

No home button, software enabled virtual bezel... Perfect gadget!

Still, LTE and HD is good enough upgrade for me anyways.
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Is it just me, or is whenever a product launch approaches, AppleInsider goes crazy with low credibility rumors and then dispels them with other sources of low credibility?
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I already said this a few days ago in another thread, but of course there's a damn home button. How the hell else is somebody supposed to get home or leave an app? And no, using multi-gestures is not a good answer, because what if those gestures are turned off?

Anybody who thinks otherwise is probably the type who believes in crackhead conspiracy theories.

And also, the spacing between those icons doesn't mean shit, as the spacing changes depending upon how many icons somebody puts down there.
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I really hoped for something edge-to-edge like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9s2oYUy_cVY

No home button, software enabled virtual bezel... Perfect gadget!

That is cool for a Sci-Fi perspective because it's flashy but it's practical for real world use even if that tech was feasible.

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It looked like portrait. The invite is probably a mock-up and the home button got left out.

It was a mockup. If you look at the lighting under the index and thumb, the thumb has very white light, yet it is sitting on the black edge where no light is emitted. Also, a dark background doesn't emit so much light that the fingers would be so lit up from underneath!

Plus, if you leave your finger on that calendar icon for longer than 3 seconds, the icons would start wobbling! And it takes longer than 3 seconds for a professional photograph to get this shot...

EDIT: ok, someone beat me to it! Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that Tuesday!!!
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Misdirection...

In many ways this reminds me of the original iPad launch...

All these little rumors about this feature or that were circulating and being debated...

Then Apple demoed the iPad including many of the rumored features...

But, the thing that all the rumors had agreed upon (and not being debated) -- that was "settled law" -- was that the price would start at $1,000-$1,100...

Then $499 dropped with dust and a resounding thud...


Boom!


...And every competitor went back to their drawing boards... for more than 2 years now...


I don't know if there will be something earthshaking at the iPad³ announcement -- but I suspect we are all missing something, by focusing on the details.

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Pointing with your index finger is an obscene gesture?

Some, here, think everything I do is an obscene gesture
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post #21 of 45
For a split second after reading the headline I thought it meant that the home button also holds the camera. Heh heh.
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Is it just me, or is whenever a product launch approaches, AppleInsider goes crazy with low credibility rumors and then dispels them with other sources of low credibility?

Actually, it happens all year long, regardless of whether or not there's an imminent product launch.
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Good stuff. I guess that settle everything!

The word "Calendar" has 8 characters that signify 8MP Camera.
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Apple, please don't ever get rid of the home button. Having a single, physical, 'reset' button is what allows a 2 year old child to use an iPad. i use both an iPad and a kindle fire. The fire is missing that button, and i (an adult) sometimes have trouble getting back to 'home'. I never really understood the attitude that a physical button is somehow inferior.
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It looked like portrait. The invite is probably a mock-up and the home button got left out.

It looked like it wasn't an iPad. Either that, or somebody sure had teeny tiny fingers. Look at the size of that calendar icon. Then, put your finger near the calendar icon on your iPad. See how much smaller the icon is? I don't understand that invitation image at all, but then again, that's part of the genius of what Apple does. They do such a good job of making us wonder.

Wednesday is going to be exciting.
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That is cool for a Sci-Fi perspective because it's flashy but it's practical for real world use even if that tech was feasible.

Why do you think the zero-bezel is a Sci-Fi?
Samsung and LG already make TVs with bezel as small as 1mm. The tech is surely there.
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Good stuff. I guess that settle everything!

That "predictions" image is hilarious. I can't believe the guy put his name on it. I'd be embarrassed if I put my name on something that contained predictions like a "triangular design." Yes, yes, that settles it. Coming soon: the TriPad. The concept is so stupid it makes me laugh.
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Why do you think the zero-bezel is a Sci-Fi?
Samsung and LG already make TVs with bezel as small as 1mm. The tech is surely there.

For starters, 1mm isn't zero even though on a large TV it probably would look edge to edge. Secondly, we're talking about a device you handle. Besides the bezel and lip adding strength and rigidity having a handheld device that you have no choice but to have your hands blocking the display unless you support it underneath seems like a non-starter to me. Surely Apple could create a thinner iPad bezel but the current size seems good for allowing your thumbs clamp the top.

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That "predictions" image is hilarious. I can't believe the guy put his name on it. I'd be embarrassed if I put my name on something that contained predictions like a "triangular design." Yes, yes, that settles it. Coming soon: the TriPad. The concept is so stupid it makes me laugh.

It's suppose to be hilarious. It's satirical.

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Why do you think the zero-bezel is a Sci-Fi?
Samsung and LG already make TVs with bezel as small as 1mm. The tech is surely there.

I believe that a zero bezel display will arrive in the near future.

The advantages for a video wall or massively-large TV are obvious.

The next feature will be for the displays to have a transparent state, a mirror state as well as off and active display states.
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Secondly, we're talking about a device you handle. Besides the bezel and lip adding strength and rigidity having a handheld device that you have no choice but to have your hands blocking the display unless you support it underneath seems like a non-starter to me. Surely Apple could create a thinner iPad bezel but the current size seems good for allowing your thumbs clamp the top.

I already mentioned all handle-related use cases (e.g. book reading), can be resolved simply by having software-enabled (virtual) bezel.
Full screen use cases (video watch, board games, photo frame, etc) would utilize full area of the edge-to-edge screen.
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For starters, 1mm isn't zero even though on a large TV it probably would look edge to edge. Secondly, we're talking about a device you handle. Besides the bezel and lip adding strength and rigidity having a handheld device that you have no choice but to have your hands blocking the display unless you support it underneath seems like a non-starter to me. Surely Apple could create a thinner iPad bezel but the current size seems good for allowing your thumbs clamp the top.

I believe that the strength issue can be addressed by the materials used for the display surface.

By having a wide bezel, it limits the use to a hand-held device.

If you remove the bezel it could be used, alone or in combination, as a table/desk top or wall display.

The neat part is that the user could decide and use settings to activate/deactivate and change the width of the bezel based on current needs.

When I am holding the iPad or it is in my lap, I want the bezel. When I am watching a video with the iPad propped by a stand or case, I'd rather have the larger screen.

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I already mentioned all handle-related use cases (e.g. book reading), can be resolved simply by having software-enabled (virtual) bezel.
Full screen use cases (video watch, board games, photo frame, etc) would utilize full area of the edge-to-edge screen.

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I believe that the strength issue can be addressed by the materials used for the display surface.

By having a wide bezel, it limits the use to a hand-held device.

If you remove the bezel it could be used, alone or in combination, as a table/desk top or wall display.

The neat part is that the user could decide and use settings to activate/deactivate and change the width of the bezel based on current needs.

When I am holding the iPad or it is in my lap, I want the bezel. When I am watching a video with the iPad propped by a stand or case, I'd rather have the larger screen.

Edit: @Jason98... what he said

So we're talking about many different things working together here. First we need tech to get the display to the very edge. Then we need materials an engineering that will make strong, rigid and durable when any significant force is placed on an edge without wearing down the display or touchscreen. Then we need software that will not only understand when we mean to hold the edge and interact with the edge. Finally, and perhaps the most complicated, we need software that will intelligently shrink and expand automatically within the OS and every app at least two sizes without being annoying to the user and without requiring much if any effort for developers.

That's why I think that video and concept is still very science fiction.

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Finally, and perhaps the most complicated, we need software that will intelligently shrink and expand automatically within the OS and every app at least two sizes without being annoying to the user and without requiring much if any effort for developers.

The app part is actually the easiest and can be introduced and handled without much pain.
Assuming the resolution of the tablet was M x N, after introducing a soft-bezel it effectively becomes (M + 2m) x (N + 2n), where m/n are widths in pixels occupying vertical/horizontal bezel areas.

The old apps (unaware of the software bezels or the ones not needing one like iBooks) will keep using M x N area.
The new apps that may take advantage of full screen mode (like video players, table games, board games, photo phrame, etc) should be eventually updated to utilize bigger screen area.
But this can be done with developer's pace with no pain to the existing users.
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The app part is actually the easiest and can be introduced and handled without much pain.
Assuming the resolution of the tablet was M x N, after introducing a soft-bezel it effectively becomes (M + 2m) x (N + 2n), where m/n are widths in pixels occupying vertical/horizontal bezel areas.

The old apps (unaware of the software bezels or the ones not needing one like iBooks) will keep using M x N area.
The new apps that may take advantage of full screen mode (like video players, table games, board games, photo phrame, etc) should be eventually updated to utilize bigger screen area.
But this can be done with developer's pace with no pain to the existing users.

So it would get an unintelligent shrink and expand effect that would line up pixel for pixel from one resolution to the other? I'm not following how this sounds like a good thing.

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So it would get an unintelligent shrink and expand effect that would line up pixel for pixel from one resolution to the other? I'm not following how this sounds like a good thing.

No that's not what I meant. No automatic shrinks and expands. The old apps (or bezel requiring apps) are still confined in the middle M x N area with the soft-bezel turned off (or used by iOS, e.g. notifications, gestures, etc)

The new full-screen "bezel-aware" apps will have to be updated by developers (for example by increasing resolution of a background image by adding m/n pixels to it).
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No that's not what I meant. No automatic shrinks and expands. The old apps (or bezel requiring apps) are still confined in the middle M x N area with the soft-bezel turned off (or used by iOS, e.g. notifications, gestures, etc)

The new full-screen "bezel-aware" apps will have to be updated by developers (for example by increasing resolution of a background image by adding m/n pixels to it).

So we're talking about a 2048x1536 display that will expand by about 400* pixels on each axis. That is 2 resolutions which is the difficult part I mentioned.


* Derived by taking slightly over a 1" diagonal with a 265 PPI that will match the reported iPad 3 to find a rough estimate of the number of pixels on each side of the bezel.

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So we're talking about a 2048x1536 display that will expand by about 400* pixels on each axis. That is 2 resolutions which is the difficult part I mentioned.

Yes, "universal apps" will have to contain background images in all possible resolutions (But that's pretty much what they do anyways).

Although not all apps need background images, I would imagine board/table games would have to do that to utilize full-screen mode.
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Coming soon: the TriPad. The concept is so stupid it makes me laugh.

Samsung already has that market cornered.

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The leaked picture of the announcement isn't landscape, the bezel is too thick BUT I also don't see aluminium, all I see is black plastic so I think it's being used in portrait but upside down because below the hand is the 3G antenna plastic.
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