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Though the current iPad 2 Smart Cover protects only the glass touchscreen of the device, Apple is rumored to be working on a new case that will also feature a rear shell.

Claims of a new official iPad case from Apple first surfaced on Monday in a report at iLounge credited to a "repeatedly reliable source." It was said that the new case will be similar to the Incase Magazine Jacket.

"This new case has a folding magnetized Smart Cover on the front, and a rear shell made from fiberglass covered with PU/bicast leather," the report said. "It's unclear whether this case will be solely for the thicker new iPad or include backwards compatibility for the iPad 2."

The iPad 2 Smart Cover was released last March along with Apple's second-generation tablet. Its unique design features a total of 21 magnets that allow it to automatically properly attach to an iPad 2, pairing up with 10 magnets found in the tablet itself.

Apple boasted that the iPad 2 was designed with its magnetic Smart Cover in mind. The iPad 2 even features a software setting that automatically locks and unlocks the device's screen when the cover is placed on or removed from the screen. Microfibers on the screen cover also clean the iPad 2 display.




Beyond the iPad, Monday's report also featured a claim about Apple's next-generation iPhone, suggesting that the company is "continuing to experiment with glass and ceramic rear shells." It was said that the next iPhone could look much like the current iPhone 4 but be thinner, thanks, in part, to Corning's new Gorilla Glass 2, which is just 0.8 millimeters thick with the same level of strength and durability.

"Our source suggests that the 30-pin Dock Connector is likely on the way out in the near future, and that a larger screen remains in the cards," the report said.




Claims that the back of the next iPhone will be made of glass, like the iPhone 4S and iPhone 4, are in opposition to reports from last year that suggested Apple planned to release a new handset with an aluminum back. Though rumors and case designs suggested Apple could release a redesigned iPhone last year, which proved to be false.

Still, last year's abundance of third-party cases that showed a redesigned iPhone have led to speculation that a new iPhone released in 2012 could feature a drastically redesigned exterior, with tapered edges and a slightly larger edge-to-edge screen.

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post #2 of 55
It will be interesting to see what they might come up with for an updated Smart Cover. Personally, I am keeping my Smart Cover from my iPad 2, and am going to use it with a Wrapsol back protector film. I did this with my iPad 2 and it kept it in perfect condition and added no bulk whatsoever!
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... Beyond the iPad, Monday's report also featured a claim about Apple's next-generation iPhone, suggesting that the company is "continuing to experiment with glass and ceramic rear shells." It was said that the next iPhone could look much like the current iPhone 4 but be thinner ... Claims that the back of the next iPhone will be made of glass, like the iPhone 4S and iPhone 4, are in opposition to reports from last year that suggested Apple planned to release a new handset with an aluminum back. ...

The aluminium back rumour keeps going and going and going, when it makes almost no sense at all beyond the simple visual similarity such a device would have to iPad. It's a popular misconception based on the failure of most people to see design as concerned with anything other than physical appearance.

Beyond the major problems it would have with signals and antennas, it would leave the iPhone much harder to service. It will never happen.

It's a bad design for a phone and moving the antennas back inside would pretty much take away any space savings they get with the next generation iPhone. Why shrink all the components by 20% and then throw away that 20% smaller iPhone by moving the antenna back inside?

I'm thinking we will see a smaller, slimmer iPhone next time, possibly smoother finish, but still with the steel antenna band on the outside where it belongs.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

The aluminium back rumour keeps going and going and going, when it makes almost no sense at all beyond the simple visual similarity such a device would have to iPad. It's a popular misconception based on the failure of most people to see design as concerned with anything other than physical appearance.

Beyond the major problems it would have with signals and antennas, it would leave the iPhone much harder to service. It will never happen.

It's a bad design for a phone and moving the antennas back inside would pretty much take away any space savings they get with the next generation iPhone. Why shrink all the components by 20% and then throw away that 20% smaller iPhone by moving the antenna back inside?

I'm thinking we will see a smaller, slimmer iPhone next time, possibly smoother finish, but still with the steel antenna band on the outside where it belongs.

I agree about the aluminum back. I don't think it will be smaller though. The question on everyone's mind is whether it will have a bigger screen. I don't know how that can be done while maintaining the same pixel density as the iPhone 4.

The design of the iPhone 4 is superb. Hard to improve upon. Knowing Apple, they will somehow do it.
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I really don't see Apple going back to a case that covers the entire iPad; the whole point of the Smart Covers was to get away from that. Per Steve Jobs himself when he unveiled Smart Covers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJkUUum6Q0Y

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Originally Posted by Steve Jobs

For the original iPad, we did a case. Case was pretty cool, it can prop the iPad up for typing or for watching movies. Worked pretty well except that we went to all this trouble to make a beautiful design and we covered it up with this case. Right? But more than that, we added thickness and weight to the product and we made it more difficult to use with some of the accessories. So we thought we could do better than this for iPad 2.
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Beyond the major problems it would have with signals and antennas, it would leave the iPhone much harder to service. It will never happen.

That would be like releasing a 3G iPad with an aluminum back, it'd never work. Oops.
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That would be like releasing a 3G iPad with an aluminum back, it'd never work. Oops.

The 3G iPads have a plastic spot on the back. Given it is a larger device, it looks ok. Doing the same on the iPhone would mean a larger portion of the back by comparison would be plastic.
post #8 of 55
These cases sound expensive. Better get a case to go over it to protect it...
post #9 of 55
Not sure how I'd feel about that. The iPads back, thank freaking heaven, is pretty durable unlike iPods. The front needs more protection, hence the Smart Cover only covering that.
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A local radio station may have accidentally confirmed this on air today... apparently they have a palette of iPad 3's that they're already giving out as contest prizes. They've already awarded at least one but can't give them to the winners until Wednesday. I forget Mr. DJ's exact wording but it basically came down to a cover that covered the front and back, made out of similar materials to the smart cover.
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The 3G iPads have a plastic spot on the back. Given it is a larger device, it looks ok. Doing the same on the iPhone would mean a larger portion of the back by comparison would be plastic.

Apple does have some interesting patents involving melding plastic, ceramic and metallic parts all into one seamless back piece but one has to wonder what the plus is of a unibody aluminium back on the iPhone if it can never be the whole (or even 60% of) the back.

The chief value of the unibody design is mass manufacturing of a single-piece design. If it has to have these inclusions, it's less cost-effective and more complicated to manufacture.
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Not sure how I'd feel about that. The iPads back, thank freaking heaven, is pretty durable unlike iPods. The front needs more protection, hence the Smart Cover only covering that.

+1 to this.

My wife's iPad 2 looks great after nearly a year with only the smart cover to protect it. The aluminum back only has a single very small scuff from where my 5 year old dropped it on the garage floor. If anything, I really wish they used the same back for the iPod touch.

On a slight tangent, I'm really happy with how the leather smart cover has held up. The leather has acquired a nice slightly weathered look.
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The 3G iPads have a plastic spot on the back. Given it is a larger device, it looks ok. Doing the same on the iPhone would mean a larger portion of the back by comparison would be plastic.

No need for plastic on an aluminum backed iPhone. The antennas are on the outside. Remember antennagate? Besides, Liquidmetal is radio transparent. And the screen size will need to be larger to make room for the larger battery in the LTE iPhone. LTE requires a lot of energy. A bigger battery is needed to maintain acceptable battery performance.
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On a slight tangent, I'm really happy with how the leather smart cover has held up. The leather has acquired a nice slightly weathered look.

I'll plus one your tangent. My girlfriend and I were noticing a few months ago that her red leather smart cover had one hell of a cool, weathered look to it...we both agreed it actually improved the look.
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... Besides, Liquidmetal is radio transparent. ...

Liquid Metal is not radio transparent.

This is a popular misconception spread by tech blogs who believe it's some kind of miracle material. It is also not any lighter than regular metal (another misconception).

Liquid metal is simply stronger, tougher and more elastic at the same size and thickness as regular metal. It's also ridiculously expensive and rarely used for anything larger than a tiny gear or pin.
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It will be interesting to see what they might come up with for an updated Smart Cover.


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The aluminium back rumour keeps going and going and going, when it makes almost no sense at all beyond the simple visual similarity such a device would have to iPad. It's a popular misconception based on the failure of most people to see design as concerned with anything other than physical appearance.

Beyond the major problems it would have with signals and antennas, it would leave the iPhone much harder to service. It will never happen.

It's a bad design for a phone and moving the antennas back inside would pretty much take away any space savings they get with the next generation iPhone. Why shrink all the components by 20% and then throw away that 20% smaller iPhone by moving the antenna back inside?

I'm thinking we will see a smaller, slimmer iPhone next time, possibly smoother finish, but still with the steel antenna band on the outside where it belongs.

Let's not forget about LiquidMetal! Maybe that's still too pie-in-the-sky, but that seems like a great candidate for all of these issues. If I'm not mistaken, it's electromagnetically transparent and would not cause interference. It's also super strong, so it could be quite thin and actually stronger than the iPhone 4 design.

If the next iPhone has a larger display, it would probably also have a larger surface area. Maybe that would obviate the need to put the antennas on the outside? That is, overall volume might stay the same or even increase. Shave off a millimeter or two on depth and it'll look plenty slim and futuristic. But IMO there's plenty of space left, right, up and down that it could grow without getting unwieldily.
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Originally Posted by juggernaut30 View Post

No need for plastic on an aluminum backed iPhone. The antennas are on the outside. Remember antennagate? Besides, Liquidmetal is radio transparent. And the screen size will need to be larger to make room for the larger battery in the LTE iPhone. LTE requires a lot of energy. A bigger battery is needed to maintain acceptable battery performance.

And then the battery has to get even larger for the larger screen... then the screen needs to get larger to make room for THAT battery... then the battery - oh wait, maybe just make it a little thicker like the uhhhhh iPad 3?
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If I'm not mistaken, it's electromagnetically transparent and would not cause interference.

Gosh dang it, I used to say this, too. I hope people didn't read my misguided nonsense and not check to see if it was true.

Though it was pretty widespread.

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A local radio station may have accidentally confirmed this on air today... apparently they have a palette of iPad 3's that they're already giving out as contest prizes. They've already awarded at least one but can't give them to the winners until Wednesday. I forget Mr. DJ's exact wording but it basically came down to a cover that covered the front and back, made out of similar materials to the smart cover.

What? I have a hard time believing this.
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My iPad2 once fell out of my car when I opened the door and onto the asphalt. It scuffed up a corner pretty bad. I was told it was a miracle the screen made it. The kind of landing the iPad had (on the corner) usually spells doom for the screen, or so I am told. The Smart Cover was on and it obviously did nothing for me and it sounded like the screen barely escaped disaster.

As a result, I got an Otterbox case to cover the back. As far as I know, no cases that provide a great deal of rear case protection are compatible the Smart Cover. At least, I could not find one that looked to me like it would do a good job. So I essentially gave up on my Smart Cover. I saw that as a small price to have the back protected and shock absorption. I think protecting the corners probably protects the front screen more than the actual Smart Cover does. I am far less concerned about minor scratches and dents than the catastrophic damage an impact could cause.

So this new case, if it exists, is probably a good thing. I would have certainly considered it when I was looking for a case.
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I use Smart-Grips with my Smart Cover. They're kind of minimalist protection, but they work for me and I'm not covering up my pad with a big bulky plastic case.



http://www.smart-grips.com/index.html
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The best case for the iPad (and I've had two of them) is the Invisible Shield.

I had both the first and second gen iPad for nearly a year each time and when I sold them each time because I used the Invisible Shield on each of them they had literally 'zero' scratches on them. And I didn't even need to care for them once the I.S. was on.

It was well worth buying. After that I have the Sena Executive Envelope Case (or whatever it's called) for when taking it out of the house and for traveling. It's leather and makes a great carrying case. Looks good, is pretty tough and has the most expensive-looking cosy interior I've seen on any case. This is the best way to do it in my opinion. Copy what I did and you'll come back to thank me when you get your amazing resale value when you're selling your scratch-less iPad. And you keep your envelope case and use it on your next iPad. You will save money by looking for an alternative envelope case, however. I personally was glad to buy something that cost a little extra (well; more than a little).
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Apple should leave the iPhone design how it is, just make it thinner and extend the screen size. There is a lot of room at the top and bottom of the current screen to expand. I like the all glass iPhone design. I find the new iPod touches too slim to hold onto, especially due to their teardrop design and aluminum backing. It feels like it is always slipping out of my hand.
As for the full iPad and iPhone cases, I think it's a good idea, but they will probably be very expensive
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These cases sound expensive. Better get a case to go over it to protect it...

Hmm... Reminds me of this...

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Apple should leave the iPhone design how it is, just make it thinner and extend the screen size.

They left it how it was last year. A change is good. If it's going to have a glass back this time they may give it a curved glass back? : ) That would be very cool looking. Personally though I'm hoping they make the back aluminum, because glass is simply too easily broken.
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Hmm... Reminds me of this...

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These cases sound expensive. Better get a case to go over it to protect it...

Quite right.
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A local radio station may have accidentally confirmed this on air today... apparently they have a palette of iPad 3's that they're already giving out as contest prizes.

They're absolutely lying. Basically you can win one, but you'll coincidentally receive the price a month after the iPad 3 comes out. Even Apple stores don't have the iPad 3 yet.
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I REALLY like my PROTEC ipad 2 cover....hope they make it for my upcoming ipad 3. It's light, made very well, and surprisingly thin for being made of leather.

http://protecmusic.com/items.aspx?Pr...bCategoryID=61
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What? I have a hard time believing this.

http://www.live885.com/index.asp?mn=3&id=9355&f=1

Website has slowed to a crawl, it's generating a ton of interest. They had viral-style teasers all last week...
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Website has slowed to a crawl, it's generating a ton of interest. They had viral-style teasers all last week...

Still, they don't have any. Just as Cult of Mac doesn't have one, yet they're giving one away.

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post #34 of 55
I for one really enjoy the aluminum look and feel and hope the new SmartCover doesn't cover the back of the iPad.
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I for one really enjoy the aluminum look and feel and hope the new SmartCover doesn't cover the back of the iPad.

SmartCover + Invisible Shield is a great combo.
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Liquid Metal is not radio transparent.

This is a popular misconception spread by tech blogs who believe it's some kind of miracle material. It is also not any lighter than regular metal (another misconception).

Liquid metal is simply stronger, tougher and more elastic at the same size and thickness as regular metal. It's also ridiculously expensive and rarely used for anything larger than a tiny gear or pin.

I wish they'd just get on with it and use the transparent aluminum which a very reliable friend of a friend told me Ive has planned for the iPhone 5.
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I wish they'd just get on with it and use the transparent aluminum which a very reliable friend of a friend told me Ive has planned for the iPhone 5.

Is this your friend on the left?

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post #38 of 55
Personally, I am far more interested in a smartcover that enables both landscape and portrait viewing upright (the latter being necessary for iBooks-type files).

It is actually a tad frustrating that the current one allows for only landscape.

I wonder, however, if that will be an impossible design challenge.
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I hate the rear aesthetics of iPad 2. Just hideous. I loved the first gen iPad's back design. Simple. Sadly I sold it b/c I was going to get the iPad 2 but once I saw the back I sad no. If iPad 3 is a significant upgrade I'll consider getting it. If not, I'll go and buy the 1 gen iPad from Apple's refurbish stuff.
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I hate the rear aesthetics of iPad 2. Just hideous. I loved the first gen iPad's back design. Simple. Sadly I sold it b/c I was going to get the iPad 2 but once I saw the back I sad no.

What the hell are you on?
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