Judge orders Motorola to provide Apple details of Google's acquisition plans, Android development - Page 3

Originally Posted by Bageljoey

I can't say that I am very well versed on this case (or the legal points in question) but this sounded like a reasonable argument from Motorola.

It seems impressive that Apple's lawyers are going to get a peek at the Google side of things from this.

This is why I am always very careful before I spend over $12 billion on anything...

Originally Posted by Mechanic

The problem with motorola's argument is that because of the merger motorola can't make any decisions on patents and lawsuits concerning them without first gaining approval for that action from google.

It was well published months ago that google is controlling motorola's actions because of the merger agreement contracts.

Motorola is not allowed to make decision by themselves on the patents without consulting google first.

Originally Posted by LTMP

I wonder how long it will be before Apple has enough trial tested patents to go after Google directly.

I'm no lawyer, but I would guess that any patent which wins for Apple in court, but remains implemented in Android after the trial concludes would constitute willful infringement for triple damages should Apple go after Google directly.

Of course, the opposite is true as well, but I haven't heard of any Android patents being involved in any of the suits against Apple.

I'm gonna need a lot more popcorn.

Originally Posted by sunilraman

This is also known as the "Proview Defense" ie. the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

Originally Posted by Quadra 610

And this is news? Like who didn't see this coming?

We all know Android is a STOLEN PRODUCT.

At some point Google's chickens were going to come home to roost.

Originally Posted by Michael Scrip

In that case... fry the bastards

But seriously... whether Schmidt saw a prototype iPhone in late 2006... or the finished iPhone in January 2007... it doesn't really matter.

At least Android was finally inspired by the iPhone

Originally Posted by mjtomlin

Gee. Who would of thought this would of turned into a troll-trollbait argument? LOL

First of all, there's nothing wrong with being influenced by or borrowing ideas from something else - this happens all the time and it is in fact how things progress, but for anyone to say that Google was not influenced in any way what-so-ever by the iPhone is either blind or just really stupid. Android was being demo'ed in 2006 and 2007, both of those times it was clearly an answer to the Blackberry. After the iPhone, Google obviously went back to the drawing board. If they didn't, why did it take almost two more years after the original unveiling of the iPhone before the first Android device was brought to market? iPhone Jan. '07 ... T-Mobile G1 October '08. Especially since Android was started towards the beginning of the decade. Furthermore, Google's answer to the iPad followed the EXACT SAME path, iPad Jan. '10, Honeycomb March '11. I mean honestly, where exactly is Google leading? They didn't even have the foresight to see the tablet market, they were trying to push ChromeOS onto netbooks. They were going after what was already out there, not trying to think of any new possibilities.

Sorry, but Apple changed the mobile UI paradigm. True Android doesn't look exactly like iOS, or Windows Phone Metro isn't even close, but the fact is, Apple came in and changed how people thought about user interfaces on mobile devices. Before the iPhone, yes there were grids of apps on home screens, but EVERY UI was point-and-click, and menu driven just as it had been on full desktop OS's decades prior.

Originally Posted by hmm


These kinds of projects can take years to develop fully. Will you also claim that the iphone ripped off the LG prada phone? Some of you guys really need to get over your infatuations with Steve Jobs, and that doesn't mean you need to completely switch to hating anything produced by Apple.

Originally Posted by Michael Scrip

I can go along with the idea that Eric Schmidt might have taken a look at the iPhone before its release.

But the iPhone, as you say, took years to develop... from mid-2004 to 2007 according to Steve.

When did anyone from Apple go to South Korea to the LG headquarters and look around? The first time anyone even saw the LG Prada was late 2006.

By that time... the iPhone was complete and in testing.

What exactly could Apple have "ripped off" from LG?

Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz

You really don't understand what he said huh? He isn't saying he believes that.

Originally Posted by Michael Scrip

OOPS

My bad... reading fail

Originally Posted by Mechanic

The problem with motorola's argument is that because of the merger motorola can't make any decisions on patents and lawsuits concerning them without first gaining approval for that action from google.

It was well published months ago that google is controlling motorola's actions because of the merger agreement contracts.

Motorola is not allowed to make decision by themselves on the patents without consulting google first.