or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPad › Apple's third-gen iPad rumored to feature 'never before seen touch technology'
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Apple's third-gen iPad rumored to feature 'never before seen touch technology'

post #1 of 129
Thread Starter 
A last-minute, highly ambitious rumor suggests Apple could feature "never before seen" haptic feedback touch technology in today's unveiling of the third-generation iPad.

The claim comes from Pocket-lint, which received comment from a spokesman for the company Senseg, which has built a unique haptic feedback method for touchscreen devices. The spokesman said Senseg "won't be making any statements until after Apple's announcement," fueling speculation that the company could be involved in today's anticipated "iPad 3" unveiling.

Senseg's technology changes the surface of a touchscreen device through electric fields so that a user's fingertips can feel complex, context-sensitive textures to aid their input. It can make a surface feel smooth or rough to the touch based on what is presented on a device's screen.

If such technology were to be included in Apple's third-generation iPad, it would be a major surprise, as Wednesday's report filed only hours before Apple's media event is the first indication of any such feature. Author Stuart Miles said Apple's official invitation to today's event, which says the company has something "you really have to see. And touch" could be hinting at a partnership with Senseg.

Separately, The Guardian also speculated this week that Senseg could be the "touch secret of Apple's new iPad." Senseg officials met with the newspaper in January, at which time the directors said they were talking to tablet manufacturers but would not comment on any negotiations with Apple.

Again last week, a Senseg official reportedly said that it would "be for Apple to say" whether the two companies have established a partnership.




While it's likely Senseg officials are being coy in an attempt to drum up publicity for their technology ahead of Apple's iPad unveiling, Apple has previously shown interest in similar haptic feedback technology for touchscreen devices. One patent application discovered by AppleInsider in 2009 described a dynamic tablet screen surface built on an "articulating frame" that would give users tactile feedback when typing in order to identify individual keys.

"The articulating frame may provide key edge ridges that define the boundaries of the key regions or may provide tactile feedback mechanisms within the key regions," the application reads. "The articulating frame may also be configured to cause concave depressions similar to mechanical key caps in the surface."








But unlike Apple's proposed invention, Senseg's technology has no mechanical moving parts. Instead, it uses an electrostatic field to give users the sensation of textures on their fingertips.

In an interview in December of 2011 with CNet, Senseg's Dave Rice indicated that he was hopeful that his technology would end up in consumer tablets in the next year. But he said the timeline "might extend to 24 months," making the possibility of it appearing at Apple's iPad event today seemingly too ambitious.

[ View article on AppleInsider ]
post #2 of 129
Last hours to get your rumors about the new iPad. I would like to start the rumor that it will have a foldable screen, projector, and include an intel chip so it can run Windows 8. Also, it will have a phone and be renamed iPhone XL.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
Reply

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
Reply
post #3 of 129
New iPad name - iPad Touch!
post #4 of 129
Initial thought...

It's one thing to drop trou and sit on the Xerox...

But the same action with the new iPad would be a stimulating experience
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #5 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

The spokesman said Senseg "won't be making any statements until after Apple's announcement".

In other words: we are not involved with Apple or the iPad but if they announce anything like what we're doing we're going to go after them very publicly and try to get a big settlement. And they would be right to do that considering they are shopping their technology around. Personally though I sort of wonder as to the usefulness of this technology in a product like the iPad. It's neat, sure, but ultimately pretty gimmicky.
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #6 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

Last hours to get your rumors about the new iPad. I would like to start the rumor that it will have a foldable screen, projector, and include an intel chip so it can run Windows 8. Also, it will have a phone and be renamed iPhone XL.

Sigh... No one ever mentions ThunderSCSI...
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #7 of 129
Would definitely bring more meaning to Apple's "We have something you really have to see and touch" invite.
post #8 of 129
I thought it was this company I had asked about the other day when haptic feedback was the subject of a thread. IIRC they released an SDK for Android devices last year. That by itself might indicate that the rumor that Senseg is involved with Apple's new iPad is just an effort to promote their own tech by piggy-backing on Apple news.

There's mention of them working with Toshiba here:
http://www.slashgear.com/toshiba-usi...video-2186559/

Even more convinced now that if the iPad does offer haptic's, it's not from Senseg.
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #9 of 129
AAPL is up $5 premarket and within $75 of GOOG... Could be a good day!
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #10 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmgregory1 View Post

New iPad name - iPad Touch!

Yeah, because 'iPad' is not working out for them, lol...
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #11 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

AAPL is up $5 premarket and within $75 of GOOG... Could be a good day!

Show me a link to AAPL at that price? I can only find them up 60c
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #12 of 129
A "highly ambitious rumor"?

That is simply embarrassingly bad writing.
post #13 of 129
If true, we'll have a new reason to say "I bet you never touched one like this before..."
post #14 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by xSamplex View Post

A "highly ambitious rumor"?

That is simply embarrassingly bad writing.

lol..

They should just call it what it really is; a stock manipulation.
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #15 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

In other words: we are not involved with Apple or the iPad but if they announce anything like what we're doing we're going to go after them very publicly and try to get a big settlement. And they would be right to do that considering they are shopping their technology around. Personally though I sort of wonder as to the usefulness of this technology in a product like the iPad. It's neat, sure, but ultimately pretty gimmicky.

I can see usefulness, especially with the visually impared. say you're trying to find an icon, drag your finger across the screen until you feel a rough spot, then you know your finger is on an icon that you can interact with... tactile feedback or the feeling of "textures" is a natural way of knowing what your finger is touching... its like those little nubs on the 'f' and 'j' keys on the keyboard... you dont have to look down at the keyboard to be able to find home row... the 'f' and 'j' keys on the ipad could be 'rough' to indicate your fingers are on the right keys for instance.

W. Pauli, winner of the Nobel prize in physics, said that all scientific methods fail when questions of origin are involved.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI

http://www.answersingenesis.org...

Reply

W. Pauli, winner of the Nobel prize in physics, said that all scientific methods fail when questions of origin are involved.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI

http://www.answersingenesis.org...

Reply
post #16 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Show me a link to AAPL at that price? I can only find them up 60c

I have an Interactive Brokers account .... $536.15 up 1.11 %

No link without login password.
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #17 of 129
'never before seen touch technology'

"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #18 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I have an Interactive Brokers account .... $536.15 up 1.11 %

No link without login password.

Well give us your login password then!
post #19 of 129
How often do these last minute rumors pan out? I seem to remember several right before the iPhone 4S was officially unveiled that did not work out.

Of course, maybe it is wishful thinking, because this feature might tip me over the on the "jealousy" scale. The "geek" factor is off the charts.
post #20 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

AAPL is up $5 premarket and within $75 of GOOG... Could be a good day!

Apple's Market Cap is greater.... PEG and P/E are lower than Google.

Better company/greater stock growth potential
post #21 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Initial thought...

It's one thing to drop trou and sit on the Xerox...

But the same action with the new iPad would be a stimulating experience

It's more likely that Senseg has nothing to do with the iPad and is trying to get free publicity. Just like Proview.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
Reply

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
Reply
post #22 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogun View Post

Well give us your login password then!

It only allows one-at-a-time... And then, there're were none \
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #23 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I have an Interactive Brokers account .... $536.15 up 1.11 %

No link without login password.

Oh...
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #24 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by ExceptionHandler View Post

I can see usefulness, especially with the visually impared. say you're trying to find an icon, drag your finger across the screen until you feel a rough spot, then you know your finger is on an icon that you can interact with... tactile feedback or the feeling of "textures" is a natural way of knowing what your finger is touching... its like those little nubs on the 'f' and 'j' keys on the keyboard... you dont have to look down at the keyboard to be able to find home row... the 'f' and 'j' keys on the ipad could be 'rough' to indicate your fingers are on the right keys for instance.

Ok, so it has one use that I won't use.
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #25 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

'never before seen touch technology'


Never before tried s&d.
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
Reply
post #26 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

'never before seen touch technology'


To go along with the never before felt visual technology.
post #27 of 129
It's going to have iSmell technology. This for example will allow war games to emit the smell of cordite and smoke. Farm videos are not going to be so popular.
Been using Apple since Apple ][ - Long on AAPL so biased
nMac Pro 6 Core, MacBookPro i7, MacBookPro i5, iPhones 5 and 5s, iPad Air, 2013 Mac mini, SE30, IIFx, Towers; G4 & G3.
Reply
Been using Apple since Apple ][ - Long on AAPL so biased
nMac Pro 6 Core, MacBookPro i7, MacBookPro i5, iPhones 5 and 5s, iPad Air, 2013 Mac mini, SE30, IIFx, Towers; G4 & G3.
Reply
post #28 of 129
Ya' know...

If there is an API for this texture thing and haptic feedback -- it could be a breakthrough for gaming apps...
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #29 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by wshuff4 View Post

To go along with the never before felt visual technology.

Felt visual technology?



BREAKING: ALL IPAD 3 GRAPHICS WILL TAKE ON THE APPEARANCE OF CUT OUT PIECES OF FELT!

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

Reply

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

Reply
post #30 of 129
"never touched before seen technology" ...
post #31 of 129
Never before seen?

Alpine PulseTouch much?
post #32 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by umrk_lab View Post

"never touched before seen technology" ...

Oh, so like meat that has been sitting out for a while or genitalia with a potential STD.

BREAKING: IPAD 3 TO TEACH ah, whatever.

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

Reply

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

Reply
post #33 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Initial thought...

It's one thing to drop trou and sit on the Xerox...

But the same action with the new iPad would be a stimulating experience

I was hoping that Tallest Skil would give us one of his photo mockups...
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #34 of 129
The invitation did say they had something you really had to see and touch
post #35 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

It's going to have iSmell technology. This for example will allow war games to emit the smell of cordite and smoke. Farm videos are not going to be so popular.

iScratch and iSniff.
post #36 of 129
Braille on the iPad?
post #37 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

In other words: we are not involved with Apple or the iPad but if they announce anything like what we're doing we're going to go after them very publicly and try to get a big settlement. And they would be right to do that considering they are shopping their technology around. Personally though I sort of wonder as to the usefulness of this technology in a product like the iPad. It's neat, sure, but ultimately pretty gimmicky.

I thought the vibrate on key press was pointless at first, but I found that I really like to have that turned on. I think it just feels more natural to have the phone do SOMETHING when I type.

It is easy to say, "I don't see the point," when you have never experienced it. Many computing features that initially seemed pointless are now common place and standard. For instance, at one point sound wasn't that big of a deal and a decent sound card was seen as something for gamers only.
post #38 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I was hoping that Tallest Skil would give us one of his photo mockups...

Ah, that's not my bag, man.

Quote:
Originally Posted by palhoni610 View Post

Braille on the iPad?

I don't think it'll be sensitive enough for that.

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

Reply

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

Reply
post #39 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Ya' know...

If there is an API for this texture thing and haptic feedback -- it could be a breakthrough for gaming apps...

According to Senseg they do. It's already been demoed on an Android tablet that-will-not-be-named, with API's and libraries "available for Android, iOS, Linux and Windows".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...?newsfeed=true
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #40 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by jr1882 View Post

Apple's Market Cap is greater.... PEG and P/E are lower than Google.

Better company/greater stock growth potential

And Apple actually sells products.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: iPad
  • Apple's third-gen iPad rumored to feature 'never before seen touch technology'
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPad › Apple's third-gen iPad rumored to feature 'never before seen touch technology'