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post #121 of 442
This is the "new iPad". I'm beginning to think that Apple will forgo any naming/numbering designation on the iPad going forward.

Maybe Apple has established that this will be the form factor for a few years and they'll just keep adding features.

(I think they got tired of hearing Tallest Skill's naming arguments. j/k)
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post #122 of 442
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Originally Posted by chronster View Post

Because they know people would end up just buying the base model and expanding the storage space on their own.

Also, maybe there's some proprietary file system they don't want microSD cards to be capable of...

lololol, I love how this guy just makes stuff up. Propietary file systems. rofl. When you have no idea what you're talking about, you should be reading, not writing.
post #123 of 442
Yep memory is still at 512mb. Confirmed again by the Apple guys in the lobby. I think we should wait for confirmation though I can't believe Apple would only put 512mb in here. Then again I was surprised to here 512mb for the iPad 2.
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post #124 of 442
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What sort of horrible accident left your brain this damaged?

3D isn't a gimmick. The studios are investing highly in it. 3D blu rays are selling well, and so are the displays. Nintendo even has a glasses-less 3D device, something Apple could easily do given this device is focused on a single person holding it just like the Nintendo device.

What the hell are you gonna say next year if Apple introduces the iPad 3D?

3D can only be done two ways:
Parallax buffer - Which requires doubling the linear resolution (eg 2048 to 4096), glasses-free. This is what the Nintendo 3DS does. In theory Apple could put that filter into the HD display and get a half resolution 3D effect. But only in landscape mode.
Frame rate doubled - Which requires 3D glasses to show each frame to separate eyes. This is the cheaper way of doing it, but people don't like 3D glasses. It can be done as shutters, polarizing or other effects.

This is why it's a gimmick, is that it can't be done well. Apple won't put that tech into the iPhone or iPad until it can be done without 3D glasses, which means that a substantial leap in LCD panel technology is needed.

It's also currently a chicken and egg problem, there is almost no 3D consumer production equipment. There are a few first-generation 3D consumer video cameras, but right now they produce terrible 3D, just like half the 3D films out there. 3D isn't being done right now unless it's a 3D animated film. If you play around with the Nintendo store, there is like exactly one 3D film in the store. "The night of the living carrots" (A Aliens versus Monsters Halloween special) and "The Pig who cried Werewolf" (A Shrek Halloween special") for 2.00 each. If you watch these on netflix you'll notice these are part of the same movie.

So, no content, no reason.
post #125 of 442
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

(I think they got tired of hearing Tallest Skill's naming arguments. j/k)

I, for one, think they're simply taking my side to end the argument once and for all. No one wants a 6th gen iPhone named 'iPhone 5'. That's just idiocy.

And if you're gonna hide text on this site, truly HIDE the text!

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post #126 of 442
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Originally Posted by tyler82 View Post

No flash on the camera.

No, It's already been established that the iPad will never have Flash.
post #127 of 442
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

If I misinterpreted your comment (I note that I didn't), please rectify my error.



Okay. That's what I asked for. It's not a big production number here.

Quote me, or don't. Don't half quote me to try to distort my point. You cropped it to try to try to portray that I was complaining or if it wasn't good enough so you asking a deflecting question about the competition (of which I don't really care about anyway..) Many of us were curious HOW they were going to match battery life of last year's model.
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post #128 of 442
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Remember, that's twice the resolution, four times the pixels. Say it with me now!

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post #129 of 442
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lololol, I love how this guy just makes stuff up. Propietary file systems. rofl. When you have no idea what you're talking about, you should be reading, not writing.

Then why doesn't the iPad have a miniSD or a proper filemanger that doesn't require me to connect to an external computer if I want to simply add a folder.
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post #130 of 442
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You cropped it to try to try to portray that I was complaining or if it wasn't good enough

Nope. I cropped it because what you said in the quote was EXACTLY that, and I didn't need to quote the rest.

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post #131 of 442
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Originally Posted by mgsarch View Post

Interesting, since none of these features were ever even being speculated about in the rumor mill.

The guy's trolling, it would seem..... ignore him.
post #132 of 442
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Interesting, since none of these features were ever even being speculated about in the rumor mill.

umm, besides my own far out expectation of the bezel, THEY WERE ALL IN THE RUMOR MILL
post #133 of 442
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

The guy's trolling, it would seem..... ignore him.

Yeah, plug your ears and ignore someone who's not even really trolling, just commenting in passing of what they were hoping to see, and still admitting the iPad 3 is a great tablet.

IGNORE THEM!

what a complete buffoon
post #134 of 442
The camera on the iPhone 4s is really nice so does the iPad 3 have exactly the same optics?
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post #135 of 442
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Then why doesn't the iPad have a miniSD or a proper filemanger that doesn't require me to connect to an external computer if I want to simply add a folder.

Because Apple wants to avoid viruses, malware, and such? I.e., what goes into an iPad is curated via software that Apple had developed?
post #136 of 442
Has anyone had any success getting to Apple's online store?
post #137 of 442
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umm, besides my own far out expectation of the bezel, THEY WERE ALL IN THE RUMOR MILL

Oh man I hope somebody comes out with a no bezel full screen tablet soon because I would be all over that just for the coolness factor alone.
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post #138 of 442
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Nope. I cropped it because what you said in the quote was EXACTLY that, and I didn't need to quote the rest.

Was EXACTLY what? That LTE battery life sucks? It does. Next?
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post #139 of 442
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Originally Posted by chronster View Post

Yeah, plug your ears and ignore someone who's not even really trolling, just commenting in passing of what they were hoping to see, and still admitting the iPad 3 is a great tablet.

IGNORE THEM!

what a complete buffoon

From the various responses that your posts have engendered, there is only one buffoon I can see here.
post #140 of 442
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Until they have a holographic display, 3D is just a gimmick. Have you played with the Nintendo? It's a piece of crap and it's not selling well.

Well, no I haven't, but I still don't think 3D is a gimmick. The studios definitely are getting behind it.

I mean games like nintendo's is what I was talking about. Nintendo's technology applied to movies is impossible, so glasses would still be required with movies.

But again, a single person watching at a single viewing angle is ideal for 3D. I don't think 3D on tablets is that far off, and may even deliver a better experience than with televisions. I mean heck, the resolution is high enough on this thing that it would look amazing. It's the refresh rate that would be a necessity.
post #141 of 442
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Oh man I hope somebody comes out with a no bezel full screen tablet soon because I would be all over that just for the coolness factor alone.

How are you going to hold it when you use it?
post #142 of 442
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Has anyone had any success getting to Apple's online store?

Still says "back soon", as of a minute ago.
post #143 of 442
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Originally Posted by kpluck View Post

Wrong.

You have to use some sort of qualifier if you only mean "one dimension". For example, the display has a vertical resolution of 1536 pixels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

-kpluck

Not wrong at all. Resolution is routinely expressed in one or two dimensions. To be non-ambiguous though, either way requires more than just numeric characters.

Ironically, other people here were arguing that "resolution" can only refer to density per area. That just goes to show that language can be imprecise and that it is pointless to try and deny that words are used in multiple ways.
post #144 of 442
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Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post

Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE is rated for 12hrs and most tests put it at about 8. :shrug:

But not according to this review...

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...laxy-tab_n.htm
post #145 of 442
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How are you going to hold it when you use it?

What??!! You think he's going to buy the one without levitation included!?
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post #146 of 442
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

From the various responses that your posts have engendered, there is only one buffoon I can see here.

Yeah. YOU. LOL

Nothing I've said has been trollish. I'm a guy who said the iPad 3 is great, but there were some features (that I saw from the rumor mill to begin with) I was hoping for.

What's the problem?

You people are so damn sensitive, and so quick to call someone a troll, you come off as completely disingenuous. I mean for God's sake, we're talking about a tablet here. This isn't some intense topic that has an impact on any of our lives, like politics or something.

Seriously, grow up and stop calling everyone who has the slightest difference in point of view a troll. Learn to address what people say instead of mentally escaping with that.
post #147 of 442
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Because Apple wants to avoid viruses, malware, and such? I.e., what goes into an iPad is curated via software that Apple had developed?

Aaah, okay that makes sense, so Apple is saying what is and isn't good for us. Even though I have never had a malware or virus in the last ten years of owning Apple products. Pretty lame Apple!
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post #148 of 442
I will pass and save my money for iPhone5.
post #149 of 442
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Until they have a holographic display, 3D is just a gimmick. Have you played with the Nintendo? It's a piece of crap and it's not selling well.

The 3DS is crap and not selling well, eh? I've got a bridge for sale!
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post #150 of 442
You really believe 3D adds enough to the movie going experience that justifies the studios charging extra for it?

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Well, no I haven't, but I still don't think 3D is a gimmick. The studios definitely are getting behind it.
post #151 of 442
So no iPad 3 or iPad HD, just "the new iPad." I like that just calling it iPad. I hope they start doing that with the iPhone, too.

DId anyone guess "Resolutionary" as the tag line?

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post #152 of 442
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You really believe 3D adds enough to the movie going experience that justifies the studios charging extra for it?

Nope if anything I need to give them a bill after my kid got so sick he pucked on me. Damn Lion King in 3D.
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post #153 of 442
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A lower price isn't a far off out of this world idea. These things are pretty pricey for the actual use you get out of them.

I think you missed basic economics class. When a company cannot keep a product on store shelves, their is little reason why they need to lower the price. Especially if they keep improving the functionality of the product.


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3D - it's the future, it's here, it's not implausible that a tablet be 3D. If anything, it's MORE plausible given that a single person tends to watch movies on these things, and it's far easier to deliver a rich 3D experience when one viewing angle is considered.

This is just dumb.
post #154 of 442
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

The guy's trolling, it would seem..... ignore him.

Unlike someone who shall remain nameless Chronster didn't state his wishes as demands or claim Apple was doomed or such nonsense. I don't think his requests are sound, especially when taken all at once, but he's certainly not trolling.

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post #155 of 442
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lololol, I love how this guy just makes stuff up. Propietary file systems. rofl. When you have no idea what you're talking about, you should be reading, not writing.

It was speculation since I simply never heard of anyone formatting a microSD card using HFSX.

You didn't even address the initial point, which was most likely the correct one. Oh and hey aren't you the one who said my expectations, which all stemmed from the rumor mill, never actually existed in the rumor mill?

Talk about being an asshole.
post #156 of 442
I was really looking forward to a holographic display oh well maybe next year.
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post #157 of 442
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it's not the same. The ipad has 50% more pixels than those resolutions to push. That's takes a toll on a strong of components that can affect the ux.

1920*1200 = 2304000
ipad = 3145728

36%
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post #158 of 442
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Originally Posted by Relic View Post

The camera on the iPhone 4s is really nice so does the iPad 3 have exactly the same optics?

I hope it's the same lens, at least. It's obviously not the same sensor. I'd imagine it'd be cheaper to have the same optics between the two.

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Was EXACTLY what? That LTE battery life sucks? It does. Next?

And now we return to my original question, "Are there other devices that allow for 9 hours of LTE?" And since you've given none, your point is clear. Next, indeed.

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I will pass and save my money for iPhone5.

1. It will be called 'iPhone'. No number. THANK YOU, Apple.
2. Come off it. Stock drops after every keynote ever. This is a phenomenal update, better than most were expecting. It will sell 50 million devices.

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post #159 of 442
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

I think you missed basic economics class. When a company cannot keep a product on store shelves, their is little reason why they need to lower the price. Especially if they keep improving the functionality of the product.

This is just dumb.

Last time I checked, I can have an ipad pretty much any place they sell it. What do you mean they can't keep it on store shelves? Where do you live that you have this problem? Come to northern VA, they're everywhere.

"This is just dumb." is a dumb retort. At least give me something to go on rather than your opinion of what's dumb and what isn't. The studios getting behind 3D, that's dumb? The tablet having a single person viewing and a single viewing angle, and now a high resolution, making the potential 3D experience better than that of a TV, that's dumb? Again, what is wrong with you?
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Originally Posted by Misa View Post

3D can only be done two ways:
Parallax buffer - Which requires doubling the linear resolution (eg 2048 to 4096), glasses-free. This is what the Nintendo 3DS does. In theory Apple could put that filter into the HD display and get a half resolution 3D effect. But only in landscape mode.
Frame rate doubled - Which requires 3D glasses to show each frame to separate eyes. This is the cheaper way of doing it, but people don't like 3D glasses. It can be done as shutters, polarizing or other effects.

This is why it's a gimmick, is that it can't be done well. Apple won't put that tech into the iPhone or iPad until it can be done without 3D glasses, which means that a substantial leap in LCD panel technology is needed.

It's also currently a chicken and egg problem, there is almost no 3D consumer production equipment. There are a few first-generation 3D consumer video cameras, but right now they produce terrible 3D, just like half the 3D films out there. 3D isn't being done right now unless it's a 3D animated film. If you play around with the Nintendo store, there is like exactly one 3D film in the store. "The night of the living carrots" (A Aliens versus Monsters Halloween special) and "The Pig who cried Werewolf" (A Shrek Halloween special") for 2.00 each. If you watch these on netflix you'll notice these are part of the same movie.

So, no content, no reason.

Thanks for the reply. Instead of just calling me a troll or saying 3D is dumb, you gave a very valid explanation and I appreciate that.
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