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post #81 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:34am
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Lower price - With that display and all the associated HW that wasn't going to happen. Next year we'll probably get a doubling of NAND, but the price won't be lower. After all they can't keep them in stock so I would argue that Apple priced them too low for the market*.

Lighter in weight - Again, the display. Even without the dual light bar it would likely need a larger battery to deal with the display and associated componets thus making it heavier, mostly because of the battery with a little for the additional casing material and any display panel weight. Note that the iPhone has gotten heavier on many occasions.

Longer battery life - Again, same thing with going Retina Display.

Bigger screen - You're talking about an entirely new UI. Add that to a new resolution for the 9.7" model and you just add insult to injury. Plus, this would fly against your desire to also make it lighter and have a lower in price

3D - I don't even now why that would be an option but it also would add cost and lower battery life.

8mp camera minimum - That could have happened. I can see that as a feasible expectation.

HD FaceTime camera - That didn't happen? I'm a little surprised since I think the iPhone 4S has it but I also don't think it's a big deal all this considered.

7" iPad Mini - That would be something that would come later when Apple isn't getting developers to start working on a new display resolution. Plus, with all the leaks of the 9.7" display there were no leaks of a 7" display.


* that's an economic observation not a desire for the prices to be raised.

A lower price isn't a far off out of this world idea. These things are pretty pricey for the actual use you get out of them.

The lighter weight would have simply been the result of components inside shrinking or the PCB being streamlined, also not a far out idea.

Longer battery life - I figured we would see this from optimized software (which would be what kicks the battery life up and probably what can be credited now for the battery life it currently has.)

bigger screen - that admittedly was an ill thought expectation

3D - it's the future, it's here, it's not implausible that a tablet be 3D. If anything, it's MORE plausible given that a single person tends to watch movies on these things, and it's far easier to deliver a rich 3D experience when one viewing angle is considered.

HD facetime might actually be on the ipad3, maybe I spoke too soon. Same with ipad mini, maybe it's still coming.
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post #82 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:35am
Underwhelmed. I'll wait for the next one. No surprises either and what about larger storage space. Can't edit high quality film and photos with only 16GB of storage.
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post #83 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:35am
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...SHUT UP. This is foolishness of the highest tier.

Actually no, replying to him is foolishness of the highest tier.

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post #84 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:35am
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Underwhelmed. I'll wait for the next one. No surprises either



You people crack me up, seriously.

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Actually no, replying to him is foolishness of the highest tier.

How true that is.

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3D - it's the future, it's here

The 1950s called. They want their "it's the future" back.

3D is a gimmick, as it has been for seventy years. It is not the future.

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HD FaceTime might actually be on the ipad3

From Apple's tech specs page:

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FaceTime camera with VGA-quality photos and video at up to 30 frames per second
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post #85 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:36am
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Okay now Phil's back on stage. Time for 'one more thing'.

I'll be really surprised if you ever hear "one more thing" at an Apple presentation. That was unique to Mr. Jobs.

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post #86 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:37am
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I was going to post an image of Apple's competition using a tablet but really it's them at a drawing board... as in back to the drawing board... but none of the images I found seemed right.

You could just post a pic of a copier...

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post #87 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:37am
Well looks like LTE battery life still sucks. New iPad is 42.5W vs 25w in iPad 2. That's a pretty big jump. Still no word on RAM increase either.
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post #88 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:39am
"MS Office for iPad" as 'One more thing' would have been really cool.
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post #89 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:39am
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You people crack me up, seriously.



How true that is.



The 1950s called. They want their "it's the future" back.

3D is a gimmick, as it has been for seventy years. It is not the future.



From Apple's tech specs page:

What sort of horrible accident left your brain this damaged?

3D isn't a gimmick. The studios are investing highly in it. 3D blu rays are selling well, and so are the displays. Nintendo even has a glasses-less 3D device, something Apple could easily do given this device is focused on a single person holding it just like the Nintendo device.

What the hell are you gonna say next year if Apple introduces the iPad 3D?

Oh and as far as facetime HD goes, thanks for looking at up for me. I guess this will be just another thing to wait for next year.
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post #90 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:40am
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Underwhelmed. I'll wait for the next one. No surprises either and what about larger storage space. Can't edit high quality film and photos with only 16GB of storage.

For the life of me I can't figure out why Apple doesn't include a miniSD. Oh well, this is a really nice hardware though. Here's hoping that other tablet manufactures play catch up real fast.
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post #91 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:40am
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Well looks like LTE battery life still sucks.

Do other tablets offer more than 9 hours on LTE?
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post #92 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:42am
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For the life of me I can't figure out why Apple doesn't include a miniSD. Oh well, this is a really nice hardware though. Here's hoping that other tablet manufactures play catch up real fast.

Because they know people would end up just buying the base model and expanding the storage space on their own.

Also, maybe there's some proprietary file system they don't want microSD cards to be capable of...
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post #93 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:44am
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What sort of horrible accident left your brain this damaged?

3D isn't a gimmick. The studios are investing highly in it. 3D blu rays are selling well, and so are the displays. Nintendo even has a glasses-less 3D device, something Apple could easily do given this device is focused on a single person holding it just like the Nintendo device.

What the hell are you gonna say next year if Apple introduces the iPad 3D?

Until they have a holographic display, 3D is just a gimmick. Have you played with the Nintendo? It's a piece of crap and it's not selling well.
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post #94 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by ElmCityWeb View Post

What's the official name? iPad HD or iPad 3?

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iPad. They've said neither name.

Looks like they decided to avoid a numbers race and just stick with plain ol' "iPad". Which makes sense to me. Too bad that will moot about 1/3rd of the discussions on AppleInsider!
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post #95 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:44am
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I wasn't expecting a revolution but this is a very easy pass, underwhelmed.

LOL, I think not!
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post #96 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:44am
Very disappointed there is no 128GB version and I really hate that home button.

We don't have a 4G network in the UK yet so that feature is wasted here for this year.

I'm sure the screen is very good and the faster processor is welcome but it's not enough to make me want to upgrade.
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post #97 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:45am
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Do other tablets offer more than 9 hours on LTE?

I don't think he was complaining about the iPad's battery life.

To me he was saying that LTE sucks the death out of batteries.
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post #98 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:45am
The new animations on the iPad page on Apple.com are AMAZING. I love that stuff. Just the little HINTS of stuff.

And they start when you scroll down to that part of the page where they are. So subtle.

I don't like how the iPad moves down slightly on the Features page, though. I don't get that.
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post #99 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:45am
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To be able to forgo a spouse for one of these devices, apparently.

I've had two wives. They're not as hard to find as one would think.
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post #100 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:45am
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I'll be really surprised if you ever hear "one more thing" at an Apple presentation. That was unique to Mr. Jobs.

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post #101 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:46am
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The wireless models now 4G connectivity, allowing users to connect to long-term evolution networks from providers like AT&T and Verizon. The new iPad will offer download speeds of up to 73Mbps over LTE. International 4G LTE partners are Rogers, Bell and Telus.

Time flies. 15 months ago we were foreseeing and praising this very move on this board and now it's real product.
BTW, kinda hint about Apple's production cycle timeframe.

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post #102 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:46am
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Well looks like LTE battery life still sucks. New iPad is 42.5W vs 25w in iPad 2. That's a pretty big jump. Still no word on RAM increase either.

If you come to that conclusion you also have to say the '3G' in the new iiPad sucks worse than the last year's chips because it's only gone up by 11% despite the battery going up 70%.

I think the better conclusion is that the display and associated components are to blame. We'll have to see some exhaustive testing from AnandTech but that MDM9615 is looking pretty impressive.

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post #103 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:47am
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Well looks like LTE battery life still sucks. New iPad is 42.5W vs 25w in iPad 2. That's a pretty big jump. Still no word on RAM increase either.

They've never acknowledged that it even has RAM! It always been established by post purchase teardowns.
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post #104 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:49am
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Do other tablets offer more than 9 hours on LTE?

I love how you crop off all my comments to cherry pick and troll me. I already explained in this thread it doesn't really matter how Apple got there. My point is Apple didn't do anything magical with the chipset. You take everything I say as an offense. Chill out. Motorola crammed a enormous battery in the Razr Maxx, does that mean they are awesome too? Apple battery stuffed their way to an (alleged) 9hr LTE life. Ok? So? fine. Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE is rated for 12hrs and most tests put it at about 8. :shrug:
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post #105 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:50am
No flash on the camera.

No T-Mobile service?
I have been very impressed with T-Mobile. I find they offer that most diverse plan options (Right now I am on the 1500 text/ minute and 30GB web plan for $30/ month) and also the best coverage. In my apartment MetroPCS, AT&T, and Verizon do not pick up signals, but T-Mobile does, even on a cheap entry level Samsung flip phone.
Now with the 4GLTE service, I expect T-Mobile to be announced when the iPhone 5 is released, which I will gladly purchase.
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post #106 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:50am
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Because they know people would end up just buying the base model and expanding the storage space on their own.

Also, maybe there's some proprietary file system they don't want microSD cards to be capable of...

Oh that makes sense not very nice of Apple to do that.. I think I'll stick with my iPad2 until such time they come out with a music creation app that needs the higher resolution. In the mean time I'm saving my pennies for the new Asus Transformer Prime with 1920x1080 rez. Not as fancy as a iPod3 but I really the keyboard with the extra battery and Android 4.03 is a lot more flexible when it comes to running Linux apps.
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post #107 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:50am
As a package, with improved hardware and software, a great improvement over the existing model. The screen performance looks fantastic. As for the camera, I'd rather have improved optics over a greater number of pixels. Seems to me that the lens/package redesign is significant and understated. Five elements in the space seems pretty good. I have designed lenses, though some time a go but think that camera performance will be rated quite highly - time will tell.
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post #108 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:51am
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If you come to that conclusion you also have to say the '3G' in the new iiPad sucks worse than the last year's chips because it's only gone up by 11% despite the battery going up 70%.

I think the better conclusion is that the display and associated components are to blame. We'll have to see some exhaustive testing from AnandTech but that MDM9615 is looking pretty impressive.

We still have zero indication that's what's actually being used.
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post #109 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:51am
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I wasn't expecting a revolution but this is a very easy pass, underwhelmed.

Sorry to hear that Lois.
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post #110 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:52am
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I love how you crop off all my comments to cherry pick and troll me. I already explained in this thread it doesn't really matter how Apple got there. My point is Apple didn't do anything magical with the chipset. You take everything I say as an offense. Chill out. Motorola crammed a enormous battery in the Razr Maxx, does that mean they are awesome too? Apple battery stuffed their way to an (alleged) 9hr LTE life. Ok? So? fine. Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE is rated for 12hrs and most tests put it at about 8. :shrug:

yeah no more Magic. Bigger battery.
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post #111 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:52am
So, regarding pre-ordering "The new iPad"... I have a question. If I pre-order today, can I designate an Apple Store to pick it up at on launch day or do I only have the option to have it shipped to my home?

I would like to pre-order an iPad to guarantee that I get one on launch day, but would actually enjoy the experience of going to the (very nice) mall nearby, where the Apple Store is located, to pick it up. I actually enjoyed the line wait (and company) when I "reserved" and then picked up the first-generation iPad back in 2010. Would love to be able to do that again, but am willing to pay up-front, online, to do so.

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post #112 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:53am
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They've never acknowledged that it even has RAM! It always been established by post purchase teardowns.



One of Apple guys handling the demo units said 512mb I have a friend who is at the event. I'm asking her to verify that one more time please hold.
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post #113 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:53am
Why wasn't Scott Forstall part of today's presentation?

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post #114 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:54am
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I love how you crop off all my comments to cherry pick and troll me.

If I misinterpreted your comment (I note that I didn't), please rectify my error.

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Apple battery stuffed their way to an (alleged) 9hr LTE life. Ok? So? fine. Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE is rated for 12hrs and most tests put it at about 8. :shrug:

Okay. That's what I asked for. It's not a big production number here.
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post #115 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:54am
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They've never acknowledged that it even has RAM! It always been established by post purchase teardowns.

They did mention that the new iPad has more memory than either the PS3 or Xbox 360. Each of those has 512MB so it's possible to say this has 1GB in it.
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post #116 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:54am
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You people crack me up, seriously.

Its not unexpected though. At this point the iPad is a mature product. As such, you're probably just going to see incremental improvements in specs and software. Most of us understand that, and thus this announcement is exactly what we were expecting.

However the hype surrounding this event implied that apple had something revolutionary up their sleeve. Its no surprise then, that people who had those expectations be underwhelmed when they're presented with nothing but evolutionaty upgrades.
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post #117 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:55am
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One of Apple guys handling the demo units said 512mb I have a friend who is at the event. I'm asking her to verify that one more time please hold.

That sounds a lot like last year when there were erroneous reports that the iPad 2 only had 256MB just because of a lowly person saying so.
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3/7/12 at 11:55am
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Why wasn't Scott Forstall part of today's presentation?

Think WWDC.
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post #119 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

I don't think he was complaining about the iPad's battery life.

To me he was saying that LTE sucks the death out of batteries.

Nailed it.
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post #120 of 444
3/7/12 at 11:56am
WooHoo!
now with 4G, i can hit my limit on my "UNLIMITED" AT&T plan even quicker
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