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During Wednesday's keynote, Apple CEO Tim Cook teased that the company is "just getting started" in 2012, noting that customers have "a lot to look forward to" this year.

Cook wrapped up his presentation at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, Calif., by calling attention to Apple's innovation and hinting at what's to come.

"Only Apple could deliver this kind of innovation in such a beautiful, integrated and easy to use way. It's what we stand for," he said of the new iPad. "And across the year, you're going to see a lot more of this kind of innovation. We are just getting started."

To emphasize his point, he showed a slide with an image of a horizon, the year 2012 and the words "There's a lot to look forward to."

Arguably the most-anticipated product rumored to be in Apple's 2012 product roadmap is a connected television set. One analyst claims such a device could arrive as early as mid-2012. He is in the minority, though, as a number of prognosticators believe Apple is preparing to launch an HDTV no earlier than 2013. It has, however, been suggested by multiple sources that the company could announce the product later this year ahead of a 2013 release.




Late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs indicated to his biographer before he died that he had wanted to reinvent the television. Author Walter Isaacson even hinted that Jobs had revealed details about future products possibly related to the television industry, but he declined to disclose them as he didn't feel it was fair to the company.

Jobs' comments have fueled speculation that Apple is working on a full-sized television. Multiple reports (1, 2) have claimed that Apple has already built prototypes of the so-called "iTV."

Apple is also expected to radically redesign its MacBook Pro lineup this year. AppleInsider reported last month that Apple is planning to release 15-inch and 17-inch laptops that will draw upon design choices currently found in 11-inch and 13-inch MacBook Air models. The new laptops will likely feature Intel's Ivy Bridge microarchitecture and may even sport improved display resolutions.


An illustration of Apple's notebook lineup planned for the 2012 calendar year.


The unveiling of Apple's first LTE device on Wednesday has also rekindled speculation that the sixth-generation iPhone will also include 4G connectivity. The next-gen handset is expected to arrive later this year, with one report claiming it will launch in the third quarter of 2012. It will also reportedly be "slimmer" and work across all 3G and LTE "network flavors." Given that Apple has dropped the numbered naming system for the new iPad, pundits now anticipate that Apple will also adopt its simplified naming scheme for the iPhone as well, potentially calling a new handset just "iPhone."

A particularly ambitious rumor from late last year claimed that Apple will overhaul all of its product lines this calendar year. Some have pointed out that Apple's 2011 was uncharacteristically uneventful from a product design standpoint, with mostly incremental updates to the company's existing offerings. As a result, their expectations for Apple appear to be running unusually high this year.

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where is ma 15" MBA?
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That teaser isn't anything about Macs or other expanded/updated products.

It's just a vague gesture at the iPad. Don't read into it.

"2007 is the year of the Mac." It wasn't the year of the Mac by any stretch of the imagination.

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Need a Mac Pro
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TRANSLATION: Apple knows about the end of the world and isn't telling us!!!!!

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he's just trying to cheer people up before the world ends in december.

i'm still waiting for the day that we get iOS/siri in-dash systems for vehicles.
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... "Only Apple could deliver this kind of innovation in such a beautiful, integrated and easy to use way. It's what we stand for," (Tim Cook) said ...

I am losing faith myself.

After looking at Apple TV's new UI and then downloading the new iPhoto for iOS, it's pretty clear that whomever is in charge of the "beautiful" part at Apple these days is asleep at the switch.

I know it's an easy and trite thing to say, but I'm almost certain that neither of those products would have been okayed if Steve was still alive.
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I am losing faith myself.

After looking at Apple TV's new UI and then downloading the new iPhoto for iOS, it's pretty clear that whomever is in charge of the "beautiful" part at Apple these days is asleep at the switch.

I know it's an easy and trite thing to say, but I'm almost certain that neither of those products would have been okayed if Steve was still alive.

Man, the Apple TV icon UI looks like some android abomination. iOS has a lovely detailed set of icons htat look good. These things look bleh.

and iPhoto. I have long wondered who at apple has the shelf fetish. Between the iBooks, iTunesU, the new iphoto and that goddamn abomination that I wish I could get rid of, or stick in another folder, Newstand.
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That teaser isn't anything about Macs or other expanded/updated products.

It's just a vague gesture at the iPad. Don't read into it.

I think last year they said something similar

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"2007 is the year of the Mac." It wasn't the year of the Mac by any stretch of the imagination.

Wasn't 2005 the year of HD? Looks like that is finally 2012 if my predictions about HiDPI Macs is correct.

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I think last year they said something similar


Wasn't 2005 the year of HD? Looks like that is finally 2012 if my predictions about HiDPI Macs is correct.

I wouldn't look for it beyond the laptop lineup (if that) unless the imacs shrink. The iphone/ipad are the devices where I could see specialized parts. Outside of that, it seems less likely. Remember they're still just using the mid to high end of what is available from TN panel technology. It's likely to be leveraged upward given what they learn in producing such densely packed displays. I'm not expecting much beyond the Air personally. People forget that it's not Apple that designs the underlying panel technology.
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I wouldn't look for it beyond the laptop lineup (if that) unless the imacs shrink. The iphone/ipad are the devices where I could see specialized parts. Outside of that, it seems less likely. Remember they're still just using the mid to high end of what is available from TN panel technology. It's likely to be leveraged upward given what they learn in producing such densely packed displays. I'm not expecting much beyond the Air personally. People forget that it's not Apple that designs the underlying panel technology.

I'd expect the notebooks first. It's the physics of the machinery. HiDPI displays were possible in very small displays for years before we say it in the iPhone 4. But now that it's possible in the iPad it migh be getting close for Mac notebooks. The 11" MBA certainly isn't too far off that.

The big issue is still power drain. The iPad went from a 25 Whr battery to 42.5 Whrs. The 11" MBA has a 35 Whr battery and the 13" MBA a 50 Whr battery. That's why I think this tech will jump those machines and go to the MBPs first. They have larger batteries and more room for an even larger battery... especially when you get rid of that ODD.

Now I'd love to get rid of TN in place of IPS but I think HiDPI would be the better choice if you can only have one of the other. If they go with TN when they make this move that would at least be easier on the battery than IPS. Still, I'm thinking that Apple's proficiency and investment in IPS panels means they will likely offer us IPS too, which I ope comes in a couple month with redesigned MBPs.

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The big issue is still power drain. The iPad went from a 25 Whr battery to 42.5 Whrs. The 11" MBA has a 35 Whr battery and the 13" MBA a 50 Whr battery. That's why I think this tech will jump those machines and go to the MBPs first. They have larger batteries and more room for an even larger battery... especially when you get rid of that ODD.

See, if we get Retina Macs at the same time as we get Haswell, we'll be able to keep the same batteries and still have BETTER battery life nearly twice over.

If you believe what Haswell's supposed to bring to the table, that is.

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See, if we get Retina Macs at the same time as we get Haswell, we'll be able to keep the same batteries and still have BETTER battery life nearly twice over.

If you believe what Haswell's supposed to bring to the table, that is.

I am expecting it with Ivy Bridge. Haswell isn't expected to be out until late 2013.

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It has, however, been suggested by multiple sources that the company could announce the product later this year ahead of a 2013 release.

Holiday season would be the ideal release time for such a product. Which would be q1 of fiscal 2013.

Announce in oct, release in November perhaps
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I am losing faith myself.

After looking at Apple TV's new UI and then downloading the new iPhoto for iOS, it's pretty clear that whomever is in charge of the "beautiful" part at Apple these days is asleep at the switch.

I know it's an easy and trite thing to say, but I'm almost certain that neither of those products would have been okayed if Steve was still alive.

For all we know the apple tv is exactly the 'simplest' interface that Steve said he had cracked.

And iPhoto might have been a Steve product as well. We simply don't know

Also, beautiful is subjective. So the issue isn't really that it isn't beautiful. It just isn't your definition
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I am expecting it with Ivy Bridge. Haswell isn't expected to be out until late 2013.

Exactly. Thinking we'd get Retina Macs this year is a pipe dream at best.

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How about my new MacPro's Timothy
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GEEZZZZ FOLKS LETS GET A GRIP OR GO AWAY.
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I am losing faith myself.

After looking at Apple TV's new UI and then downloading the new iPhoto for iOS, it's pretty clear that whomever is in charge of the "beautiful" part at Apple these days is asleep at the switch.

I know it's an easy and trite thing to say, but I'm almost certain that neither of those products would have been okayed if Steve was still alive.

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Did anyone catch the rainbow Apple logo Tim threw up at the very end. Was he just trying that on for size? Hmm. Maybe a reminder to those struggling from hate that it doesn't matter if you're gay, you too can be CEO of the largest company in the world.

A stretch? Probably.
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TRANSLATION: Apple knows about the end of the world and isn't telling us!!!!!


The end of the world is nothing to look forward to!!
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The end of the world is nothing to look forward to!!

If your bags are packed it is....
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Exactly. Thinking we'd get Retina Macs this year is a pipe dream at best.

Then my dreams are pipped. Things are looking good for a 13" and 15" 230-ish PPI Mac notebooks for 2012, IMO.

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I think last year they said something similar


Wasn't 2005 the year of HD? Looks like that is finally 2012 if my predictions about HiDPI Macs is correct.

Yeah, they say pretty much the same type of thing after every keynote, press conference, and analysts call. I can't believe AI made an entire article about it!
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Need a Mac Pro

I'm holding out hope for a Mac Pro this year, if there isn't one by Christmas, then I'm buying the MacMini when it gets a quadcore and desktop performance level of dedicated graphics. The iMac's do not, and will not interest me, because I see them as just batteryless laptops. If I want a laptop, I'll buy a laptop. I have room for a macmini (it can replace the first generation intel macmini.)

My optimistic guess is that the MacBook Pro's will get SSD options instead of spinning drives, they may also get the same screen resolution as the new iPad (early 2012) except in 16:10 ratio. Some minor performance bumps and all quad-core.

My pessimistic guess is that Apple decides to nix the MacPro entirely and Apple gets some huge backlash from the music, video and 3D content creators, and we then we stop seeing new content put on iTunes when the studios give Apple the middle finger. Remember that you need a mac to put anything on the iTunes store, that includes Video (which must be in the Final Cut Pro ProRes format.) It won't stop app developers since you can compile apps on the Macmini. But you're not going to get a studio to pipe their video to a superslow macmini just to put video on the iTunes store. No they'll outsource this to someone else who will just slap the default settings on, and you wind up with the kind of sloppy VOD that the cable companies are pushing.
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Did anyone catch the rainbow Apple logo Tim threw up at the very end. Was he just trying that on for size? Hmm. Maybe a reminder to those struggling from hate that it doesn't matter if you're gay, you too can be CEO of the largest company in the world.

A stretch? Probably.

I know you're kidding, but you know that the Apple logo was rainbow since like 25 years ago, right?
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Did anyone notice this in the keynote video ?

Tim is talking about the importance of retail stores " and in some ways it's even more important for a buyer of an iPad, or an iPhone ... or another Post-PC device". The hesitation there, I get the feeling he almost said something he shouldn't have.

Check it out, about 3:22 into the video.
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[Given that Apple has dropped the numbered naming system for the new iPad, pundits now anticipate that Apple will also adopt its simplified naming scheme for the iPhone as well, potentially calling a new handset just "iPhone."]
To me this makes sense for the iPad ( similar to MacBook and iMac ) but not for the iPhone, especially considering three different models are available.
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Where have I seen something like that horizon logo before? Try here (scroll down to the grey box at the bottom).

Luckily the Australian Greens are neither litigious nor have deep pockets

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Remember that you need a mac to put anything on the iTunes store, that includes Video (which must be in the Final Cut Pro ProRes format.) It won't stop app developers since you can compile apps on the Macmini.

That's more the place where the DoJ should be Anti-Trust-ing. Compiling doesn't really require a Mac, Apple definitely could license the libraries for exclusive use into the AppStore on other platforms enjoying GCC/LLVM... but Video? That's imho really "Trust" behavior.

My 2 cents.

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post #31 of 84
Just an update to the three year old iWork suite with proper iCloud integration would be enough for me ...
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I thought Tim's keynote was a bit dishonest. He failed to mention that iCloud movies was not all the studios, and he failed to mention that it was US-only. Steve was always very scrupulous about including those details.

And if every keynote he's going to give a history lesson, it's going to get a bit tiresome. I was so relieved when Phil came on stage, I thought "now we can get moving."

And Randy, the graphics guy, was great to watch, he went through so many mind-blowing features in quick succession as if they were nothing. As he walked off I thought "There goes a genius."
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IPS displays with high-res and high pixel density "Retina" displays on a 15" MacBook Air please!

Even better: A "Retina"-like/type iMac and/or Cinema/Thunderbolt display. I'd buy all of the above on day one!

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I think they coud use a slightly better "suspense-building" approach (a la Steve) in their future keynotes.

Start with something like "we love the iPad 2 so much that we're going to keep it! And guess what, since you love it so much, we're even going to lower its price!"

The audience sighs in disappointment, wondering "that's all!?"

Then comes The New iPad ......
post #35 of 84
This certainly is not big news, I mean what did you expect him to say "There really is not much happening this year"?
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Whatever the new stuff actually is, I really and most sincerely hope that Tim Cook doesn't do the presentation. He's dull, lifeless, unexciting, has no sense of style (I mean, an untucked not-quite black shirt!) and sounds like Bill Gates. Apple has some great presenters with enthusiasm and energy, but neither Tim nor Phil are one of them.

SJ did the presentations not because he was CEO but because he was good at them, enjoyed them, and made them into something a lot more than they were. He also launched things that really were revolutionary. Tim Cook is an excellent bean counter and back room boy for organising the company, but he isn't a motivator in any way.
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Did anyone notice this in the keynote video ?

Tim is talking about the importance of retail stores " and in some ways it's even more important for a buyer of an iPad, or an iPhone ... or another Post-PC device". The hesitation there, I get the feeling he almost said something he shouldn't have.

Check it out, about 3:22 into the video.

Probably he was trying to find the word "iPod". Just moments earlier he spoke of three post-of devices being iPod, iPhone, iPad. I noticed his hesitation then figured he had one of those moments where his third item was on the tip of his tongue but couldn't find it.
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During Wednesday's keynote, Apple CEO Tim Cook teased that the company is "just getting started" in 2012, noting that customers have "a lot to look forward to" this year.

What else is he going to say - 2012 is going to be a crap year? I don't think so. I like the finance guy - every single quarterly earnings conference call he says the same thing "we have a great pipeline of amazing new products". I bet he has no idea what they got lined up but just says it anyway lol.
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I'm holding out hope for a Mac Pro this year, if there isn't one by Christmas, then I'm buying the MacMini when it gets a quadcore and desktop performance level of dedicated graphics. The iMac's do not, and will not interest me, because I see them as just batteryless laptops. If I want a laptop, I'll buy a laptop. I have room for a macmini (it can replace the first generation intel macmini.)

My optimistic guess is that the MacBook Pro's will get SSD options instead of spinning drives, they may also get the same screen resolution as the new iPad (early 2012) except in 16:10 ratio. Some minor performance bumps and all quad-core.

My pessimistic guess is that Apple decides to nix the MacPro entirely and Apple gets some huge backlash from the music, video and 3D content creators, and we then we stop seeing new content put on iTunes when the studios give Apple the middle finger. Remember that you need a mac to put anything on the iTunes store, that includes Video (which must be in the Final Cut Pro ProRes format.) It won't stop app developers since you can compile apps on the Macmini. But you're not going to get a studio to pipe their video to a superslow macmini just to put video on the iTunes store. No they'll outsource this to someone else who will just slap the default settings on, and you wind up with the kind of sloppy VOD that the cable companies are pushing.

Perhaps this "new" name is the thing we need to pay attention to the most. If they expand the air line to include pro models, perhaps we will see the "New Macbook" with ultrabook design and 11-13-17-17 inch screens. Followed by the "new Mac Pro", a smaller machine with a non-xeon 6 core chip as entry level. By the end of the year, the entire product line will be "new".
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Probably he was trying to find the word "iPod". Just moments earlier he spoke of three post-of devices being iPod, iPhone, iPad. I noticed his hesitation then figured he had one of those moments where his third item was on the tip of his tongue but couldn't find it.

Or the slight hesitation was because he's very consciously not using the name of a yet unreleased new product. Imagine working on the new iAwesome all day and then having to do a presentation on these "post PC" devices and not being able to name this new product that you're talking about and working on all day long. It's very easy to let it slip out unless you're really thinking about what you're about to say (which humans usually don't, you're usually only aware of what you're saying after you've said it).
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