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Suggesting strong demand for the new iPad at launch, shipping estimates for the white 4G LTE model from AT&T have shipped to March 19 at Apple's online store.

Both the 16-gigabyte and 64-gigabyte models are now advertised to ship by March 19, while the 32-gigabyte model is still shown to deliver on March 16.

There are not yet any delays for the Wi-Fi-only models, or any of the Verizon models. In addition, all of the black third-generation iPad models compatible with AT&T remain available for delivery on March 16.

Next Friday's iPad launch marks the most ambitious debut yet for a new version of Apple's touchscreen tablet. It will launch on day one in a total of 10 countries: the U.S., Canada, the U.K., France, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore and Australia.

Demand for the iPad is expected to continue to grow, bolstered by the Retina Display on the latest model, as well as a lower $399 entry price for the 16-gigabyte Wi-Fi-only iPad 2. The 3G-capable 16-gigabyte iPad 2 is also available for $529.




One estimate made before the third-generation iPad was announced projected that Apple will sell 55 million units in 2012. And analysts on Wall Street are in agreement that Apple will continue to dominate the tablet market, where it has maintained above 70 percent share despite a growing number of less expensive competitors, like Amazon's $199 Kindle Fire.

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post #2 of 64
Australian Apple Store Online still says "Order now for delivery between March 16 and March 22". Get 'em while their hot.
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I ordered one for my wife's birthday yesterday and it says delivered on the 16th. It sure was a lot of trouble to get into that site though. It took about 2 hours after the event was done before I could get all the way through to placing my order.
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Meanwhile, crickets sing joyously over at the Samsung website....
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In memory of Slapppy:

Nearly 24 hours in and you can still order most new iPads without any delivery delays. Demand must be way down off the back of such a mediocre update!!

Apple is doomed!!

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1) I can't wait to see the sales figures for this. Preorders in 10 countries at once for a ship day on the Match 16th with 25 more countries on March 23. That's aggressive.

2) So why is AT&T selling out. They have less AT&T models than any other: AT&T isn't the cellular pariah that was once clamed?

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Are the 3s on display at Apple Stores?
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I considered getting an extra iPad, a 32 GB wifi in addition to the 64 I wanted.
I let a co-worker shame me into not doing it, and now I'm glad. Looks like Apple has ramped up plenty and there will be a glut of new iPads on eBay come next weekend.
There definitely won't be enough of a shortage to drive the price up the way it has in the past.
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Are the 3s on display at Apple Stores?

No and they won't be until the 16th.
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Originally Posted by GQB View Post

I considered getting an extra iPad, a 32 GB wifi in addition to the 64 I wanted.
I let a co-worker shame me into not doing it, and now I'm glad. Looks like Apple has ramped up plenty and there will be a glut of new iPads on eBay come next weekend.
There definitely won't be enough of a shortage to drive the price up the way it has in the past.

The high prices never came from shortages, they came from countries who didn't get them as soon as we did here in America.
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No and they won't be until the 16th.

Why? Filler.

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Originally Posted by GQB View Post

I considered getting an extra iPad, a 32 GB wifi in addition to the 64 I wanted.
I let a co-worker shame me into not doing it, and now I'm glad. Looks like Apple has ramped up plenty and there will be a glut of new iPads on eBay come next weekend.
There definitely won't be enough of a shortage to drive the price up the way it has in the past.

Come back on the 20th and tell me us how glad you are.
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You guys are lucky. The Hong Kong website started selling the wifi ( no 4g for hk yet) at 1PM and by 2:30, it was sold out. There were 3 server crashes during that time so the accessible time was around 45 mins. Of course, a lot of the hong kong purchase are for reselling to the grey market in China.
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wow. I gave up at around 2 PM est trying to place my order.
Tried again at 5 PM est and it took 2 tries. Finally got it to go through.
I ordered the Black 16GB Verizon model. (and a new Apple TV)
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

1) I can't wait to see the sales figures for this. Preorders in 10 countries at once for a ship day on the Match 16th with 25 more countries on March 23. That's aggressive.

2) So why is AT&T selling out. They have less AT&T models than any other: AT&T isn't the cellular pariah that was once clamed?

1) Yeah, I can't wait to hear how many millions have pre-ordered and the total of first day sales. I hope they have a huge inventory for this and can meet as much demand is thrown at them.

2) Maybe because they're offering a lower barrier of entry for data vs Verizon (250MB for $15/month)
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Why? Filler.

They never put products out before you can actually buy them. They'll have them all out when they open stores on the 16th.
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They never put products out before you can actually buy them. They'll have them all out when they open stores on the 16th.

Could have sworn they have before. Ah, well.

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So is the LTE portion unlocked so one can get 4G access on any 4G-capabel carrier or are you locked in with your purchase? Talking about in the US here since CDMA-based networks have such a wonky setup.

PS: Just noticed there is no Sprint iPad. 18 models is a lot. 24 would just be annoying. Can wait until all CDMA/CDMA2000 is turned off... in about 20 years.

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Assuming it's not because of low demand, this is a key benefit of keeping the same form factor. While the screen and chips need to be ramped up, it is probably much easier to ramp up production for the rest of the components since little has changed.

Given the amount of leaks, I'm guessing Apple has been ramping up for quite some time.
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So is the LTE portion unlocked so one can get 4G access on any 4G-capabel carrier or are you locked in with your purchase? Talking about in the US here since CDMA-based networks have such a wonky setup.

PS: Just noticed there is no Sprint iPad. 18 models is a lot. 24 would just be annoying. Can wait until all CDMA/CDMA2000 is turned off... in about 20 years.

I do believe they are unlocked, however since carriers use different bands for LTE, there is no guarantee your AT&T LTE device will work on another carrier. GSM wouldn't be a problem.
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I do believe they are unlocked, however since carriers use different bands for LTE, there is no guarantee your AT&T LTE device will work on another carrier. GSM wouldn't be a problem.

The AT&T model has 700 and 2100 bands for LTE while the Verizon model only has 700. I'm going for the AT&T model but I'll see if I can get it to connect to Verizon's LTE if this hasn't been vetted before the 19th (I was a later buyer).

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So is the LTE portion unlocked so one can get 4G access on any 4G-capabel carrier or are you locked in with your purchase? Talking about in the US here since CDMA-based networks have such a wonky setup.

PS: Just noticed there is no Sprint iPad. 18 models is a lot. 24 would just be annoying. Can wait until all CDMA/CDMA2000 is turned off... in about 20 years.

I noticed that once they put up the slide showing the carriers. Looking at the specs page, there are two different frequency chipsets supported both ipads have UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz), while the AT&T version has LTE (700, 2100 MHz) and the Verizon version has LTE (700 MHz)3 CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz).

Will the Verizon version work on Sprint's network? (I'm a Canuck, I don't know these things). I wonder why Sprint wouldn't chose to sell this on their 3G network until they have their LTE network going. Did the carriers sign sale agreement maybe?
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I noticed that once they put up the slide showing the carriers. Looking at the specs page, there are two different frequency chipsets supported both ipads have UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz), while the AT&T version has LTE (700, 2100 MHz) and the Verizon version has LTE (700 MHz)3 CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz).

Will the Verizon version work on Sprint's network? (I'm a Canuck, I don't know these things). I wonder why Sprint wouldn't chose to sell this on their 3G network until they have their LTE network going. Did the carriers sign sale agreement maybe?

A quick Gogole search of the results page (i.e., non-diffinitive) looks like Sprint's LTE is 800 and 1900MHz. If that is correct that is out, but there LTE is still where AT&T's was two years ago.

I wonder if I could even take an AT&T iPad 3 and connect it to the Verizon LTE at all. They both had the 700MHz band but I'm thinking the software will be an issue. I'm guessing it's not as simple as putting in a Verizon SIM card.

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1) I can't wait to see the sales figures for this. Preorders in 10 countries at once for a ship day on the Match 16th with 25 more countries on March 23. That's aggressive.

2) So why is AT&T selling out. They have less AT&T models than any other: AT&T isn't the cellular pariah that was once clamed?

I wonder if CYQ2 2012 will exceed the CY4Q 2011 iPad sales -- pretty good possibility, IMO!
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Will the Verizon version work on Sprint's network? (I'm a Canuck, I don't know these things). I wonder why Sprint wouldn't chose to sell this on their 3G network until they have their LTE network going. Did the carriers sign sale agreement maybe?

No. Sprint won't put non-Sprint devices on their network. Maybe a very small percentage have gotten it to happen, but who knows. Why no iPad? Well there is no reason why it wouldn't work, but perhaps it's because Apple is championing the LTE connectivity and Sprint won't turn it on until later this year for a handful of markets. Just my guess.

That and plus they probably couldn't afford it since they spent about 17 billion on iPhones over the next few years.
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A number of the new iPad models have slipped to March 19 in the Canadian version of the Apple store.
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A quick Gogole search of the results page (i.e., non-diffinitive) looks like Sprint's LTE is 800 and 1900MHz. If that is correct that is out, but there LTE is still where AT&T's was two years ago.

I wonder if I could even take an AT&T iPad 3 and connect it to the Verizon LTE at all. They both had the 700MHz band but I'm thinking the software will be an issue. I'm guessing it's not as simple as putting in a Verizon SIM card.

I doubt it. AT&T and Verizon are in the same 700 Mhz block, but AT&T uses 704-745 Mhz while Verizon uses 746-787 Mhz. So much for cross carrier interoperability.
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Pro tip: order it with engraving and the delivery date returns to March 16 (instead of shipping the 19th).
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I wonder if CYQ2 2012 will exceed the CY4Q 2011 iPad sales -- pretty good possibility, IMO!

Historically speaking I'd say so.

CY4Q 2010 - 7.33 million iPads (iPad 1, near end of cycle)
CY2Q 2011 - 9.25 million iPads (first full quarter for iPad 2)

Now we have a 35 countries in an 8 day span. I'm guessing they have made a lot. I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPad revenue overtake the iPhone revenue.

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Originally Posted by AdyB View Post

In memory of Slapppy:

Nearly 24 hours in and you can still order most new iPads without any delivery delays. Demand must be way down off the back of such a mediocre update!!

Apple is doomed!!


Your tribute to slurpy aside, if Apple ran out of inventory / build capacity too quick, haters will say Apple intentionally constrained supply in order to drive up demand through scarcity, and if they don't sell out right away, it must mean nobody wants them and therefore omg android must be winning.

So yes, Apple is doomed no matter what happens. I for one am glad to be getting my black 64GB AT&T 4G LTE iPad on March 16, not two weeks later.

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I doubt it. AT&T and Verizon are in the same 700 Mhz block, but AT&T uses 704-745 Mhz while Verizon uses 746-787 Mhz. So much for cross carrier interoperability.

And so much for an unlocked "world mode" device.

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post #33 of 64
I haven't been to an Apple Store in a couple of years... 30 miles -- real PITA traffic and parking.

Has anyone else noticed that the newer Apple Store pictures tend to feature a lot of square tables w with 4 iPads -- as opposed to a few years ago, rectangular tables with a mix of products?

It looks as though the store is setup to:

-- drop in, try an iPad
-- play a few minutes and sell yourself
-- buy and leave

No fuss, no muss, no bother!

Now, if they would only implement that self-checkout thing!
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And so much for an unlocked "world mode" device.

How so? If LTE doesn't exist, it will revert to GSM or CDMA. Those bands are pretty consistent around the world, minus the AWS spectrum T-Mobile uses. If someone gets the Verizon version, I assume that like the CDMA i4S, the carrier can unlock the SIM for travel overseas.
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The white 64Gb wifi "new iPad" is now showing 22nd March here in the UK - it was "16th to 19th" when I ordered mine (and a new AppleTV) when the online store came back at around 00:20 this morning....

Anybody want to buy a 64Gb white wifi iPad2?
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Assuming it's not because of low demand, this is a key benefit of keeping the same form factor. While the screen and chips need to be ramped up, it is probably much easier to ramp up production for the rest of the components since little has changed.

Given the amount of leaks, I'm guessing Apple has been ramping up for quite some time.

And if it's something where you're going to be releasing a new model every year no need to change up the design if it's a hit with customers (and iPad 2 design was for most people). Only thing I could think of would be real advancements in battery technology where you could make it thinner/lighter.
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They never put products out before you can actually buy them. They'll have them all out when they open stores on the 16th.

Indeed. They don't want them in the stores before the night before for various security reasons.

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And so much for an unlocked "world mode" device.

Not until they start decomissioning the 2G/2.5G/3G/3.5G networks will there be one, because that is when the 800/900/1800/1900 bands get reused for LTE-Advanced.

T-Mobile at least realized their mistake and is instead following AT&T now. Sprint on the other hand isn't. (They're apparently putting LTE on the Nextel 800 spectrum.)

It will probably be 2017 before a world LTE device is available. Right now the only places you can roam with LTE are the US, and Canada.

However I wouldn't be surprised if pressure is put on governments to have carriers put LTE on 2100 and 700 so we can avoid another round of balkanized phone standardization. Right now it's okay because LTE isn't completely rolled out yet in North America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

Looks like you can roam in Uzbekistan (700) and Nigeria (2100.)
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