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Samsung has called for a last-minute hearing for its ongoing lawsuit with Apple in Australia, prompting speculation that the company is preparing to attack the company's newly announced iPad.

Samsung called for the emergency hearing late Wednesday, after Apple's new iPad was announced, according to ITnews. Details of what Samsung plans to discuss are unknown, but the timing suggests the South Korean electronics maker could be looking to block the March 16 launch of the iPad in Australia.

The hearing is scheduled to begin at 10:30 a.m. Friday local time in the courtroom of Justice Annabelle Bennett. That's the same judge who granted an injunction to Apple last year, temporarily barring sales of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.

If Samsung does attempt to block the launch of the new iPad in Australia, it wouldn't be the first time the company has reacted quickly to a product announcement from Apple. Last October, almost immediately after Apple unveiled the iPhone 4S, Samsung filed for injunctions in France and Italy attempting to bar sales of Apple's handset at launch. But those efforts by Samsung failed, and Apple's international launch of the iPhone 4S went off without any legal issues.

Apple will launch its new iPad next Friday in a total of 10 countries, making it the largest launch yet for the company. The third-generation iPad is scheduled to launch in Australia along with the U.S, Canada, the U.K., France, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore.




Separately, Samsung this week also filed a new infringement suit against Apple in its home country of South Korea. That complaint takes aim at the iPhone 4S and iPad 2, accusing the products of infringing upon three patents.

Apple and Samsung have filed more than 30 lawsuits against one another across the globe, and their legal showdown now spans 10 countries. Apple has offered settlements to Samsung, as well as Motorola, in which the iPhone maker has sought between $5 and $15 per Android-based handset sold, in return for dropping its own patent infringement claims, but no such deals have been agreed upon.

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Classic.
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Samsung has called for a last-minute hearing for its ongoing lawsuit with Apple in Australia, prompting speculation that the company is preparing to attack the company's newly announced iPad.



Samsung has no choice but to protect its intellectual property.
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"Samsung may already be preparing legal assault on Apple's new iPad"

...or they may not.

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Now would it not make more sense to have suite brought against Apple in a country where the market is the largest, that would in turn cause Apple the most financial heartache ?

Seems odd for Samsung to be targeting Apple in such a small country/economy as Australia.
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I was on Apple's site yesterday, and after two hours of Ooops! messages and massive frustration, I said fuck this shit, and I headed on over to Samsung's site, where everything was smooth sailing, since there were only 3 other people visiting the site, and I proceeded to buy a Galaxy tab!






























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Now would it not make more sense to have suite brought against Apple in a country where the market is the largest, that would in turn cause Apple the most financial heartache ?

Seems odd for Samsung to be targeting Apple in such a small country/economy as Australia.

You're assuming the laws and the law systems are the same in both countries.
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Seems odd for Samsung to be targeting Apple in such a small country/economy as Australia.

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Samsung has no choice but to protect its intellectual property.

I'm sure those Etch A Sketch devices are a rip off of a Samsung Tablet.
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Samsung has no choice but to protect its intellectual property.

And what intellectual property is that exactly?
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Same old same old from SAMSUX. Apple comes out with better and newer stuff before the SAMSUX copy cats can copy it. Pick up a SAMSUX phone and compare it with an iPhone. The Samsux will feel like a plastic piece of cheap crap while the iPhone is pure quality. SAMSUX = GARBAGE.
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why the hell didn't I become a lawyer?!?!?!
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Now would it not make more sense to have suite brought against Apple in a country where the market is the largest, that would in turn cause Apple the most financial heartache ?

No. It makes the most sense to bring suits in countries where you feel you have the best chance to win the case.

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Samsung has no choice but to protect its intellectual property.

It would seem that SAMSUX has no intellectual property as it seems all they have done is try to monkey see monkey do. Epic fail though. SAMSUX stuff feels plastic and cheap whereas Apple is beautiful and well made. Apple feels expensive and SAMSUX feels cheap. Not to mention Android is a fragmented half baked open sourced mess. NO THANKS. Stop messing with Apple and try to make products that stand out on their own and that people might want to buy. Wait till Apple gets into TVs and cleans SAMSUX clock. Yikes. No wonder SAMSUX is scared.
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LOL -- "SAMSUX" ha!
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Samsung has no choice but to protect its intellectual property.

Yet so far courts have held that they don't have any intellectual property to protect, resulting in not being able to get any injuctions to stick. And to be fair, Apple has had only minor success in blocking stuff too. But the lawyers are sure making out like bandits.\
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Dear Samsung: Get a life. If you don't know where to find one, head to your local Apple store, they sell the "i" variety.
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It is funny that Samsung are the ones making the Retina display which is used in the new iPad -- they actually make this key part of the device, and they are suing Apple yet again for stealing their ideas....I don't think Samsung has a Retina-display tablet out on the market, and Apple paid Samsung good money for these panels, it was a fair deal.
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Dear Samsung: Get a life. If you don't know where to find one, head to your local Apple store, they sell the "i" variety.

They don't have a Life, they only have a Seoul.
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It would seem that SAMSUX has no intellectual property as it seems all they have done is try to monkey see monkey do. Epic fail though. SAMSUX stuff feels plastic and cheap whereas Apple is beautiful and well made. Apple feels expensive and SAMSUX feels cheap. Not to mention Android is a fragmented half baked open sourced mess. NO THANKS. Stop messing with Apple and try to make products that stand out on their own and that people might want to buy. Wait till Apple gets into TVs and cleans SAMSUX clock. Yikes. No wonder SAMSUX is scared.

I have a Samsung phone. It has a retina class AMOLED display behind Gorilla glass. The body is aluminium. The build quality is superb and every bit as good as Apple's. It doesn't copy anything to do with Apple, did stand out, I wanted to buy it and did.

As for copying. At the time of launch it had a message centre, could act as a Wifi hotspot and you could stream media to and from it from DNLA capable devices. Apple's iOS didn't copy these features until about a year later.

And it had a better camera, than any Apple phone until the 4s and better battery life than any Apple phone.

You were saying...
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In before the flood of Android fans saying Samsung should just learn how to compete.

What? I'm a dreamer.
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Samsung has no choice but to protect its intellectual property.

As does Apple. Glad you see and understand that. With such an attitude you'll surely be on Apple's side if the shoe were on the other foot right?
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They don't have a Life, they only have a Seoul.

I would not be surprised if they are thinking of naming a product an 'iSeoul', but I'd suggest an 'r' would be better than an 'i' .
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Now would it not make more sense to have suite brought against Apple in a country where the market is the largest, that would in turn cause Apple the most financial heartache ?

Seems odd for Samsung to be targeting Apple in such a small country/economy as Australia.

Well, based on what we've observed so far from Apple's lawsuits in Germany to Holland to Austrialia, it seems like the Austrialian and the Dusseldorf courts are by far the most patent holder friendly courts. so why not?
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I have a Samsung phone. It has a retina class AMOLED display behind Gorilla glass. The body is aluminium. The build quality is superb and every bit as good as Apple's. It doesn't copy anything to do with Apple, did stand out, I wanted to buy it and did.

As for copying. At the time of launch it had a message centre, could act as a Wifi hotspot and you could stream media to and from it from DNLA capable devices. Apple's iOS didn't copy these features until about a year later.

You were saying...


Apple's iPhone was the first smartphone with a touch-screen display, and multi-touch for the matter. So all other smartphones with a touch panel or multitouch are copying patents of Apple for the iPhone -- yes, these things were patented and Apple has gone to court many times over this.

There were many other things about the iPhone that were unique and have been 'copied' in other Android-based phones, but the multitouch touchscreen panel is the most obvious and blatant violation of Apple's patent on this technology.
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I'm so disgusted by this company, I am seriously considering taking down my Samsung HDTV if it weren't such a hassle to sell. Unfortunately, I purchased it long before this whole patent war started.

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I have a Samsung phone. It has a retina class AMOLED display behind Gorilla glass. The body is aluminium. The build quality is superb and every bit as good as Apple's. It doesn't copy anything to do with Apple, did stand out, I wanted to buy it and did.

As for copying. At the time of launch it had a message centre, could act as a Wifi hotspot and you could stream media to and from it from DNLA capable devices. Apple's iOS didn't copy these features until about a year later.

And it had a better camera, than any Apple phone until the 4s and better battery life than any Apple phone.

You were saying...

It would be helpful if you actually said what model of phone you had so we could compare your statement to actual facts. I think it would be interesting to know what Samsung phone had a "retina class" display in Oct. 2010 or before as you claim (a year before iOS had a message center).
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I have a Samsung phone. It has a retina class AMOLED display behind Gorilla glass. The body is aluminium. The build quality is superb and every bit as good as Apple's. It doesn't copy anything to do with Apple, did stand out, I wanted to buy it and did.

As for copying. At the time of launch it had a message centre, could act as a Wifi hotspot and you could stream media to and from it from DNLA capable devices. Apple's iOS didn't copy these features until about a year later.

And it had a better camera, than any Apple phone until the 4s and better battery life than any Apple phone.

You were saying...

that you don't now what you are talking about.. retina class? are you crazy? do you anything about that?

build quality is superb and samsung in the same sentence? no. samsung quality is "good enough".
what about the OS? are you going to pretend that if feels as fast as a 2year old iphone4?
better battery life? what???

you sir, are crazy.
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
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And what intellectual property is that exactly?

Are you expecting a serious answer from this guy?
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No. It makes the most sense to bring suits in countries where you feel you have the best chance to win the case.

-kpluck

Although, Judge Annabel (I don't know why I love that name!) hasn't worked out very well for Samsung so far....
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I'm so disgusted by this company, I am seriously considering taking down my Samsung HDTV if it weren't such a hassle to sell. Unfortunately, I purchased it long before this whole patent war started.


consider boycotting all electronic goods from Apple, HP, Sony, Verizon, etc.. iPhone is also 25% Samsung (component & price wise).
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I would not be surprised if they are thinking of naming a product an 'iSeoul', but I'd suggest an 'r' would be better than an 'i' .

+1 (with the Br. pronunciation).
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Although, Judge Annabel (I don't know why I love that name!) hasn't worked out very well for Samsung so far....

Judge Annabel's injunction was overturned by a higher court in AU.. She may be just a clueless judge - which may or may not work in Samsung's favor this time around.
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She may be just a clueless ......

Maybe.

But not as clueless as Samsung's lawyers who couldn't tell apart Samsung's tablet from Apple's. Could have played a role in her ruling. One can hope they are using the same lawyers.....
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I have a Samsung phone. It has a retina class AMOLED display behind Gorilla glass. The body is aluminium. The build quality is superb and every bit as good as Apple's. It doesn't copy anything to do with Apple, did stand out, I wanted to buy it and did.

As for copying. At the time of launch it had a message centre, could act as a Wifi hotspot and you could stream media to and from it from DNLA capable devices. Apple's iOS didn't copy these features until about a year later.

And it had a better camera, than any Apple phone until the 4s and better battery life than any Apple phone.

You were saying...

Can you please point me to the phone model you're referring to, which in that entire rant you neglected to mention? I'm serious, I'm curious. Cause I'm not aware of any recent Samsung phones with an aluminum body, nor 'retina class' resolution- never-mind all 3. Please do tell.
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Samsung has no choice but to protect its intellectual property.

While this is true, if this is another FRAND game they aren't likely to get any type of injunction and shouldn't.

So we shall have to see what it is they are claiming as infringing and infringed upon before we can call them good or bad guys

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It is funny that Samsung are the ones making the Retina display which is used in the new iPad -- they actually make this key part of the device, and they are suing Apple yet again for stealing their ideas....I don't think Samsung has a Retina-display tablet out on the market, and Apple paid Samsung good money for these panels, it was a fair deal.

Even if this is the claim, Apple was the first to have a retina display in any mobile device with the iPhone and thus they have a very strong 'prior art' argument. Not to mention that as an Apple supplier, it is not out of the realm of possibility that SameSux's previously announced but not yet released SuperDef screen was 'inspired by' their insider knowledge of Apple's specs

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