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Apple TV, iOS devices now recognize DVD Digital Copies in iTunes in the Cloud

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iTunes Digital Copy movie files now show up under the Purchased tab of Apple TV and iOS devices and can be re-downloaded through iCloud.

Apple teamed up with Twentieth Century Fox to introduce the iTunes Digital Copy format in 2008 as a way for studios to let consumers import a digital version of purchased DVD movies into iTunes. Support for the initiative has gradually swelled as more studios have come on board.

In order to activate iTunes Digital Copy files, users insert the purchased physical media that includes a digital copy into a Mac or PC and then input a redemption code included with the DVD to import the file into iTunes.

Following the release of updated software for the Apple TV earlier this week, Gabe Gagliano of Tech of the Hub discovered that some of his iTunes Digital Copy files automatically appeared in the Purchased section of his Apple TV and were available for streaming via iCloud. The media also appeared under the Purchased tab of the iTunes app on an iPhone.

For now, Fox and Universal are reportedly unable to offer re-downloads and streaming of their movies because of a contractual obligation with HBO.

Apple announced the expanded iTunes in the Cloud functionality for movies and TV episodes on Wednesday alongside the release of the new Apple TV and third-generation iPad. The company first unveiled its iTunes in the Cloud feature last June as a precursor to the full-fledged iCloud service. The feature initially allowed music purchased through iTunes and apps downloaded from the App Store to be easily re-downloaded to authorized devices.



The new Apple TV adds support for new 1080p iTunes content. According to one analysis, Apple is utilizing new High profile H.264 compression in order to reduce the storage footprint of the new 1080p videos. The most recent versions of Apple's iOS and Apple TV devices include support for High profile decompression.




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If you delete your digital copy and go to iCloud in iTunes, it redownloads it and includes the iTunes Extras, if there are any available. You didn't get those with the original digital copy. Nice little side benefit.
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Lots of hidden extras with videos I'm surprised they didn't feature on Wednesday.


PS: Do people really hate this 4th Apple TV UI because I think it's the best one they've released.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Lots of hidden extras with videos I'm surprised they didn't feature on Wednesday.


PS: Do people really hate this 4th Apple TV UI because I thin it's the best one they've released.

You know how it is...people are so quick to criticize the "new, different" thing. Just human nature I guess.
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I wonder what will happen to a video file in iCloud that has had the requiem treatment?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Lots of hidden extras with videos I'm surprised they didn't feature on Wednesday.


PS: Do people really hate this 4th Apple TV UI because I think it's the best one they've released.

Functionally, it's vastly superior. Visually, it's ugly as sin.
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Tech o' the hub, lol
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Originally Posted by Cory Bauer View Post

Functionally, it's vastly superior. Visually, it's ugly as sin.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's somewhat deliberate. They don't want Apple TV looking better than iTV now, do they?

I also think they give iTV an App Store, but they renege on Apple TV. Making it the defining differentiator between the two products. So if the customer wants the true console experience they must get the actual iTV product, as opposed to the poor man's version of it - which they will continue to sell until they can get the iTV cheap enough or perhaps even longer.

This is presuming they can get a Subscription TV Shows deal inked; something they need to do before releasing iTV or it will not be a success. They need to give people a much better proposition for TV Shows on their TV than Apple TV provides, and they need to subsidize iTV to get it into the hands of as many people as possible. The only way to make the TV as cheap as possible is to lock people into a 12-24 month contract so they will be able to sell iTV at an up-front price the consumer can afford. And they only way to achieve that is Subscription TV Shows.

I got rid of my cable 5 months ago. I was fed up with watching ads and crap TV. And I completely detest Rupert Murdoch's Sky. They charge you €20 to call support even if the problem is their fault. They charge you call out fees if their box breaks. And if you e-mail them, which you can, they ask you to call them in their e-mail reply - so they can charge you the €20 (a piece of information they care not to divulge).

Apple iTV cannot come soon enough. It's time to shake up the shit-ho that is cable "terrestrial" TV and provide people an option for a great customer and user experience with excellent customer support.
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post #9 of 34
Aren't Universal and Fox the two studios who don't offer HD versions as well, currently?

And nice find on the iTunes Extra. Going to have to do that...
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Originally Posted by calvin2006 View Post

If you delete your digital copy and go to iCloud in iTunes, it redownloads it and includes the iTunes Extras, if there are any available. You didn't get those with the original digital copy. Nice little side benefit.

I need to find out how this works I have 3 boxes of DVD's and BR. They are all ripped into m4v files but putting what I can in the cloud would be nice. I am sure some have digital copies.
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Yeah, I was shocked and so happy that Star Trek '09 and Up were in my purchased bin in iTunes with the extras. I had to format my Macbook Air last Fall and those were the only two movies I couldn't save. And of course the download period for those digital copies had expired.
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This is sadly not yet available in the UK :-(
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Originally Posted by calvin2006 View Post

If you delete your digital copy and go to iCloud in iTunes, it redownloads it and includes the iTunes Extras, if there are any available. You didn't get those with the original digital copy. Nice little side benefit.

I noticed that. but only on SD since that was what the copy originally was.

Two of my Harry Potter titles aren't showing as purchased (they were all digital copies) but I'm hoping that will resolve itself in time.

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Functionally, it's vastly superior. Visually, it's ugly as sin.

I think you nailed it. Folks on boards like this think it is ugly as anything. but they forget that they make up only a tiny cut of the audience that Apple is going after and that Steve Jobs would have been thinking about when he was designing the simplest interface ever (and yes I do think this is the UI he was talking about).

My only objection is the color scheme. I think it's a tad over the top. Makes it look garish. But my grandfather will have no issues getting around. Especially if the Apple Remote app will mirror that layout when paired to an Apple TV. He already wants an iPad anyway so we kids are thinking of getting the Apple TV for him as well.

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Aren't Universal and Fox the two studios who don't offer HD versions as well, currently?

don't know about that but they don't do any redownloading at the moment

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I need to find out how this works I have 3 boxes of DVD's and BR. They are all ripped into m4v files but putting what I can in the cloud would be nice. I am sure some have digital copies.

This isn't iTunes Match for movies. It's just redownloads of what you got from iTunes. With those old DVDs if there was a digital copy you would have to have claimed it during the valid time (which is typically only the first six months after the release) to have it in your records. Otherwise game over.

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post #17 of 34
so this "High Profile Compression" supports a maximum bitrate of 62.5Mbps, the New AppleTV supports 25Mbps, and Blu Ray supports a Maximum of 54 Mbps.

Can anyone tell me what rate the 1080p iTunes content is typically set to? i imagine no more than 25 to support the AppleTV. [looks like i'm not throwing out the BluRay player yet].
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I dont think this is in iTunes Canada either, I will have to double check this evening, but I didnt see it after updating the iOS.

One thing I had noticed was in the physical digital copy when moved into iTunes, was the same size as the normal digital copy on iTunes i.e. around 1 1.5GB. Some films iTunes films also had HD digital copies, they were around 0.5 GB larger. So the questions become, are they going to include the HD digital copies in the physical combo sets ? And if iTunes is re downloading, with extras ( which I have only seen with a Harry Potter disc ) as mentioned elsewhere, will they be upgrading your digital copy ? Similar to that of iTunes match if your song is less than 256k encoded, or will they only do it if they see you have the 1080p Apple TV ?

I guess they are still fine tuning so it might be a moving goal post for a bit.
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Can anyone tell me what rate the 1080p iTunes content is typically set to? i imagine no more than 25 to support the AppleTV. [looks like i'm not throwing out the BluRay player yet].

It's 5-8k, I think.

Er, sorry, M. I'm used to HandBrake making me type in thousands.
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I dont think this is in iTunes Canada either, I will have to double check this evening, but I didnt see it after updating the iOS.

It's not, I just checked. *grumble*
post #21 of 34
I just tried redownloading Tron, purchased as a Digital Copy with the blu-ray, and it still downloaded a SD version.
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

I noticed that. but only on SD since that was what the copy originally was.

Two of my Harry Potter titles aren't showing as purchased (they were all digital copies) but I'm hoping that will resolve itself in time.

I have two Harry Potters also missing. Cars 2 is not there either.
post #23 of 34
I love the new UI... I think it's awesome looking and most important, practical.
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The only way to make the TV as cheap as possible is to lock people into a 12-24 month contract so they will be able to sell iTV at an up-front price the consumer can afford. And they only way to achieve that is Subscription TV Shows.

I don't like the idea of a 12-24 month contract to buy an iTV. I thought the iTV would provide an alternative to the cable/sat contract model with a one box home entertainment system providing FTA TV, movie rentals, streaming purchased iTunes content (movies, tv, music, games, apps, etc) and the option to subscribe to single channel app's like MLB.
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This is sadly not yet available in the UK :-(

This is working in the UK for purchased/free TV Shows, but not for movies. I get a Purchased tab on Apple TV where I can stream shows. Guess its a licensing issue with movies in the UK as usual.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Lots of hidden extras with videos I'm surprised they didn't feature on Wednesday.


PS: Do people really hate this 4th Apple TV UI because I think it's the best one they've released.

I think it's the first that actually makes me buy an Apple TV. In Switzerland TV sucks, but for everything non-TV Apple TV with the new UI may just be the mood changer. Anyway I know some people who are definitely in for the new device.
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Originally Posted by calvin2006 View Post

If you delete your digital copy and go to iCloud in iTunes, it redownloads it and includes the iTunes Extras, if there are any available. You didn't get those with the original digital copy. Nice little side benefit.

How did you get the extras? I tried with a digital copy of Captain America but it just downloaded an SD copy of the movie and nothing else.
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I have two Harry Potters also missing. Cars 2 is not there either.

I'm thinking they are victims of similar broadcast exclusive deals like the Universal and Fox with HBO and we will see them later on.

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It's not, I just checked. *grumble*

As usual, Canada is left out of the mix, still waiting for Siri to give directions in Canada!!!!
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I'm thinking they are victims of similar broadcast exclusive deals like the Universal and Fox with HBO and we will see them later on.

I don't think has anything to do with HBO contracts.

A friend of mine with Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and The Nightmare Before Christmas digital copies has them showing up as available for streaming. However on my iMac with those tow digital copies installed they are not showing up for streaming.

I think this has much more to do with inaccuracies in the way Apple is determining eligibility.

For the record, Half-Blood Prince is the only one of the six Harry Potter movies I have digital copies for that is not available for streaming.
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

I don't like the idea of a 12-24 month contract to buy an iTV. I thought the iTV would provide an alternative to the cable/sat contract model with a one box home entertainment system providing FTA TV, movie rentals, streaming purchased iTunes content (movies, tv, music, games, apps, etc) and the option to subscribe to single channel app's like MLB.

But then they can't subsidize the TV. If they subsidize it it'll be a hit. Perhaps in your scenario they can offer people an option to buy it at full price? $1,299 off contract?
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But then they can't subsidize the TV. If they subsidize it it'll be a hit. Perhaps in your scenario they can offer people an option to buy it at full price? $1,299 off contract?

Oh I see, you mean Apple discounts the purchase price of the iTV in return for the user taking out a 12-24 month contract with Apple for some form of TV streaming service. This would provide access to all or most of the content on the iTunes Store for a fixed monthly price. That gives you all the films you could want and TV shows plus music and maybe games. A sort of Lovefilm/Netflix + Spotify + OnLive. You could then add on your own subscription app's for things like live sports. Presumably your subscription would also allow you to watch the streamed content on your iPad and iPhone as well all for say £20/month. Interesting idea. I see where your coming from now.
post #34 of 34
In the Store Preferences of iTunes, it now shows 'When downloading High Definition videos, prefer" you then have the choice of 720p or 1080p. I wonder if this will over write the Digital copy version on the disc.
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