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post #81 of 90
3/9/12 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post

Right, luck and circumstance and Woz and all. But what attracted Paul Jobs to California? And what was it about Woz and Jobs that made THEM among the few chief architects of the personal computer? They and others around them MADE the personal computer revolution happen, it didn't just happen. And let's not forget the government contracts that made Silicon Valley a viable venture in the early days.

I agree and great questions. I don't know what attracted Paul Jobs to California. Brilliance and luck allowed Jobs and Woz to be among the few chief architects of the personal computer. In my opinion if they had not met the personal computer revolution would have happened without them but it would have played out differently and we would be far worse off today because of it. But we wouldn't know it.

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post #82 of 90
3/9/12 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

I guess a $100 billion in the bank doesn't stop you taking all the state handouts you can get.

It certainly has never stopped professional sports.
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post #83 of 90
3/9/12 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by jfc1138 View Post

It certainly has never stopped professional sports.

Or oil companies.....
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post #84 of 90
3/9/12 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

Or oil companies.....

I guess my response to all this tax break bribery that goes on is this: Why not pass a federal law forbidding such bribes so that every state appears equal to businesses looking to build a facility? This way a site is chosen based on it's actual merits and not on how much money a state can throw at a company for little or no actual return.
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post #85 of 90
3/9/12 at 6:39pm
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I guess my response to all this tax break bribery that goes on is this: Why not pass a federal law forbidding such bribes so that every state appears equal to businesses looking to build a facility? This way a site is chosen based on it's actual merits and not on how much money a state can throw at a company for little or no actual return.

Why not pass a Federal Law that forbids "investments" at the Federal level first and then let's talk about what a sovereign state can do with it's own money.

It's funny you know... how taxes are viewed as for the taking at the pleasure of those not doing the work. It's funnier still how corporate taxes are just a tax on the people buying the goods. What a scam..
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post #86 of 90
3/9/12 at 6:50pm
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I guess my response to all this tax break bribery that goes on is this: Why not pass a federal law forbidding such bribes so that every state appears equal to businesses looking to build a facility? This way a site is chosen based on it's actual merits and not on how much money a state can throw at a company for little or no actual return.

Read the US Constitution. This is not a power reserved for the federal government.
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post #87 of 90
3/9/12 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by sessamoid View Post

Read the US Constitution. This is not a power reserved for the federal government.

Wait a second...... Wouldn't the US Constitutuion trump Federal law?
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post #88 of 90
3/9/12 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by sessamoid View Post

Read the US Constitution. This is not a power reserved for the federal government.

Oh bull. It would well within the scope of the Constitution to regulate tax law so that it is applied fairly and evenly. I think there may already be such laws for certain situations.

And in my opinion, states rights are abused in the extreme. They need much heavier oversight to prevent this kind of unfair bending of tax laws.
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post #89 of 90
3/10/12 at 4:33am
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Originally Posted by WelshDog View Post

Oh bull. It would well within the scope of the Constitution to regulate tax law so that it is applied fairly and evenly. I think there may already be such laws for certain situations.

And in my opinion, states rights are abused in the extreme. They need much heavier oversight to prevent this kind of unfair bending of tax laws.

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It depends on which taxes you mean.

The Constitution gives the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. As such, I believe it could be argued that it should be able to get involved in the sales tax dispute as it relates to interstate transactions.

I don't, however, see anything that gives the Federal Government the right to get involved in tax deals involving property tax or state income tax. While 'states rights' are often abused, I don't see any sign that this is an example of that. It seems to fall well within the intent of the Founding Fathers for states to be able to determine their own internal tax policies.
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post #90 of 90
3/11/12 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

Since Apple is building the mothership in Cupertino, they should also design a scaled down version, a.k.a. "the daughtership"
The should make all their future regional offices daughterships.

All dockable with proprietary magnetic connectors
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