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Apple will close iWork.com and delete user documents on July 31, 2012

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Apple's new iCloud suite will officially replace iWork.com on July 31, 2012, at which point users will no longer be able to access their documents from the site.

In an e-mail sent to users of the iWork.com public beta on Friday, Apple informed participants that they should begin migrating to iCloud. Apple has recommended that users sign in to iWork.com before July 31 to download all of their documents to their computer.

In addition, Apple has created a support document available on its website, informing users that the iWork.com public beta will be discontinued in July. There, Apple offers a list of instructions on how to download documents from the website.

"Last year, we launched iCloud, a service that stores your music, photos, documents, and more and wirelessly pushes them to all your devices," Apple's e-mail reads. "Today, there are over 40 million documents stored on iCloud by millions of iWork customers."

The iWork.com service launched in beta in early 2009. At the time, it was aimed at making it easier for iWork users on the Mac to collaborate with others using Windows and Microsoft Office.




Since then, the iWork suite of applications has also become available on iOS, with Pages, Numbers and Keynote among the most popular downloads on the iPad App Store.

The iWork suite and iOS5 also offers integration with the iCloud service, which launched last October. At the iCloud.com website, users can access their up-to-date iWork documents, synced through iCloud's Documents & Data service.

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post #2 of 41
That sound suspiciously like their current estimated launch date for Mountain Lion.

Nice.

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post #3 of 41
Makes sense.
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Hopefully the iWork Mac apps will be updated to work with iCloud soon.
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Hopefully the iWork Mac apps will be updated to work with iCloud soon.

Not likely. At least not in the sense that you imply.

iWork.com was for collaborative/group online editing/markup.
iCloud documents are only available to the individual.

It seems unlikely that they will introduce some kind of mickey mouse "permission to look at my private documents" kind of feature into the desperately simple iCloud setup. It would make it janky and overly complex just for the small minority of users who want to share access to a small subset of their documents.
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I got this email too - While I'm certainly glad to see the iWork apps supporting Cloud storage, I did occasionally use (and found helpful) the collaboration functionality of iWork.com. It was nice uploading documents for people on my team who did not have access to Pages and for them to comment on and revise them. The service showed great promise, and now it's simply being turned down.

Sadly this is an area where the Microsoft web-based Office environment (and to some extent Google Docs) will be able to lead the way...
post #7 of 41
Doh! That explains why I couldn't figure out iwork.com vs. iCloud.

I'll be glad when everything is fully 'iClouded.'
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

It seems unlikely that they will introduce some kind of mickey mouse "permission to look at my private documents" kind of feature into the desperately simple iCloud setup. It would make it janky and overly complex just for the small minority of users who want to share access to a small subset of their documents.

Yep, probably the same minority of users who enjoyed having a Web page, iDisk storage and a Photo Gallery that their family, friends, customers, and associates could access using MM. Don't get too comfortable using iCloud as it will soon be replaced with something else even more restrictive and convoluted.

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This doesn't sound like they are going to switch to a paid iWork.com model.

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This doesn't sound like they are going to switch to a paid iWork.com model.

Duh !!
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Not likely. At least not in the sense that you imply.

iWork.com was for collaborative/group online editing/markup.
iCloud documents are only available to the individual.

It seems unlikely that they will introduce some kind of mickey mouse "permission to look at my private documents" kind of feature into the desperately simple iCloud setup. It would make it janky and overly complex just for the small minority of users who want to share access to a small subset of their documents.

I'm not so optimistic about iCloud either. If iCloud does not incorporate at least minimum collaboration/sharing features, this is a great loss for me.

FYI, iWork.com allowed you to share iWork documents to the public where most, in my case everyone, does not have iWork or Mac.
Also, it just recently added a feature to embed Keynote presentation to a webpage.
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

Yep, probably the same minority of users who enjoyed having a Web page, iDisk storage and a Photo Gallery that their family, friends, customers, and associates could access using MM. Don't get too comfortable using iCloud as it will soon be replaced with something else even more restrictive and convoluted.

Is iWork.com screwed up. iCloud will screwup too. Apple just can't pull it off. This is sooooo devastating for such a company.
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When does MobileMe end? I've got some stuff I need to d/l from my iDisk before it gets erased.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

This doesn't sound like they are going to switch to a paid iWork.com model.

It is more likely they would create some kind of public document setting for your iclouded documents. Not unlike the new iPhoto for iOS app creating journals to share sets of photo, in place of the old galleries

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Is iWork.com screwed up.

No, not really.

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iCloud will screwup too.

No, that doesn't look to be the case.

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Apple just can't pull it off.

No, iCloud is working incredibly well.

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This is sooooo devastating for such a company.

No, you're just a FUDmonger.

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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Not likely. At least not in the sense that you imply.

iWork.com was for collaborative/group online editing/markup.
iCloud documents are only available to the individual.

It seems unlikely that they will introduce some kind of mickey mouse "permission to look at my private documents" kind of feature into the desperately simple iCloud setup. It would make it janky and overly complex just for the small minority of users who want to share access to a small subset of their documents.

I was implying that I was hoping that I could start a Numbers spreadsheet on my iPhone and be able to finish it on my Mac, and sync it back to my iPhone, which is kind of a PITA to do right now.

I ended up using iDisk, but sadly that's going away too.
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When does MobileMe end? I've got some stuff I need to d/l from my iDisk before it gets erased.

So do it now.
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Originally Posted by rasimo View Post

I was implying that I was hoping that I could start a Numbers spreadsheet on my iPhone and be able to finish it on my Mac, and sync it back to my iPhone, which is kind of a PITA to do right now. .

This was supposed to happen with iWork in Lion, but I believe it's been pushed back to Mountain Lion. iWork on the Mac desktop needs an update though.
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I was implying that I was hoping that I could start a Numbers spreadsheet on my iPhone and be able to finish it on my Mac, and sync it back to my iPhone, which is kind of a PITA to do right now.

You should be able to do this with iCloud.
I don`t use Numbers but I`m constantly creating documents with Pages on my iPhone and finishing them on my Mac all accessed through iCloud.
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

It is more likely they would create some kind of public document setting for your iclouded documents. Not unlike the new iPhoto for iOS app creating journals to share sets of photo, in place of the old galleries

I hope so. I'm still surprised they would drop general web-based used of iWork editing completely. I assume that the ones that use its features may only have Windows-based PCs at work.

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I was implying that I was hoping that I could start a Numbers spreadsheet on my iPhone and be able to finish it on my Mac, and sync it back to my iPhone, which is kind of a PITA to do right now.

I ended up using iDisk, but sadly that's going away too.

Ah. Then I inferred the wrong implication (or something).
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Ah. Then I inferred the wrong implication (or something).

Haha, no problem
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

No, not really.

No, that doesn't look to be the case.

No, iCloud is working incredibly well.


No, you're just a FUDmonger.

Well, I'm no FUDmonger, and iWork wasn't smooth for me, iCloud is fair but NOT "working incredibly well" (several account voodoos) and I would have been happy to use my iDisk more often over the years except that uploads were literally four times the time of just putting on another free cloud service account, and I was told point blank by more than one client to stop putting our files there. I've happily replaced all such Apple services I tried with better working ones and am glad to have the bamboo shoots out of my fingernails.

I'm an lifelong Apple apologist (and active .Mac/.Tools/mobileme user from its inception until I gave up) but no rose colored glasses here.
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I can't find and edit my pages docs on my mba...only on my iPad & iPhone...what gives??? thx
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I can't find and edit my pages docs on my mba...only on my iPad & iPhone...what gives??? thx

You mean the ones being stored in the cloud? Yeah, you won't be able to see those on your OSX machine until after Mountain Lion and updates to iWork are released.
post #26 of 41
I'm not a big fan of iWork. Once widely available, iClouds approach will be better effort me.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

No, not really.



No, that doesn't look to be the case.



No, iCloud is working incredibly well.



No, you're just a FUDmonger.


-Oh thank goodness, I thought we would miss out on the opportunity to hear from one of the mindless sheep who think Apple is beyond mistakes and criticism (An Apple Nazi if you prefer). I'm sure you can back up your claim that iCloud is working incredibly well, but in case you can't, please stick to the blogsphere with your lack of objectivity and propaganda will be better appreciated.

As side note, Apple has created many outstanding products, but they are not perfect (as no one is). They have successes & failures, but will only improve with critical review and not blind praise!
post #28 of 41
Maybe they could transfer people's documents to the appropriate (Pages, Keynote...) app's folder in iCloud, instead of just deleting them.
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-Oh thank goodness, I thought we would miss out on the opportunity to hear from one of the mindless sheep who think Apple is beyond mistakes and criticism (An Apple Nazi if you prefer).

We don't use that language here. You'll do well not to repeat it.

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I'm sure you can back up your claim that iCloud is working incredibly well,

I have never had a single problem, foible, or mishap with iCloud since Lion Developer Preview 1. Tens of millions of others have not had a single problem, foible, or mishap with iCloud since 10.7.0.

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your lack of objectivity and propaganda will be better appreciated.

So you've proof that iCloud is an utter failure, then? Mind if I see it?

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

Yep, probably the same minority of users who enjoyed having a Web page, iDisk storage and a Photo Gallery that their family, friends, customers, and associates could access using MM. Don't get too comfortable using iCloud as it will soon be replaced with something else even more restrictive and convoluted.

You should know better than to rely on apple. Best not to get locked in.
post #31 of 41
I used it for a while but I still mainly use Office docs to collaborate with other Windows/Office users so I'm sticking with Dropbox for now. It does seem Mountain Lion will offer Dropbox-like capabilities in terms of storing and sharing documents on iCloud. That would be a most welcome development.
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

It is more likely they would create some kind of public document setting for your iclouded documents. Not unlike the new iPhoto for iOS app creating journals to share sets of photo, in place of the old galleries

iPhoto will surely support Journals in Mountain Lion. I hope they add a slightly more professional version of this for Aperture. Being able to show clients' images and slide shows requires a somewhat shall we say, less folksy, approach. Unless we get Aperture X at the same time... (bad FCP X joke)
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You should know better than to rely on apple. Best not to get locked in.

Unlike all those companies making stuff to compete with Apple. They keep there products and services going for ever don't they ... oh wait a minute ...
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post #34 of 41
WWDC in June = New OSX versions of iWork & iLife with iCloud functionality built in + New MacBooks with Mountain Lion. Can't Wait.
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You mean the ones being stored in the cloud? Yeah, you won't be able to see those on your OSX machine until after Mountain Lion and updates to iWork are released.

Thank you. I will be patient, then....
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

I have never had a single problem, foible, or mishap with iCloud since Lion Developer Preview 1. Tens of millions of others have not had a single problem, foible, or mishap with iCloud since 10.7.0.


So you've proof that iCloud is an utter failure, then? Mind if I see it?

LOL, what delusional claptrap. Just Google iCloud and "issues" and spend a few hours reading, and then do iCloud and "problems" for another round. A failure!? Of course not. But join us on Earth for a dose of reality. Limit hits to the past three months if you don't have much time.

I understand it is your desire to ignore such "proof" of issues so you can make such sweeping false statements, but please, it's foolishness to state that because one can't demonstrate it's an "utter failure" that it is therefore the opposite, a flawless bed of roses. Reams of hits disprove that.
post #37 of 41
You can currently "sync" your icloud documents to your iOS devices either using itunes, or manually using the icloud website. The website is actually easier than you think. Just log in to icloud, click iwork, then drag and drop your documents onto the web browser window. This is far easier than the method used within iwork itself to upload to the old iwork site.

I am currently using this method to work on documents between my Macbook and iPhone. I am excited for Mountain Lion to make this seamless.
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post #38 of 41
The thing about iCloud is that it builds on Versions. In Lion, Apple got developers to add the ability for their apps to perform Incremental Save. The argument was that it will be fast enough to do in the background as the user works, so they won't have to worry about manually saving any more.

Of course now we see that they had bigger plans (presumably) all along. The same diff-save means that an app can trickle changes over a low-bandwidth cellular connection as the user works, instead of doing a big nasty beach ball save at the end.

Also, inherent in trickling changes is trickling *changes*, so you end up with a timeline of changes on the server which should make syncing easier.

They have really thought about this, it's not another temporary solution/half ignored thing like iDisk was. They are killing off MobileMe and iWork.com because they have finally settled on a direction in this space after many years of trying.
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Originally Posted by kingsmuse View Post

You should be able to do this with iCloud.
I don`t use Numbers but I`m constantly creating documents with Pages on my iPhone and finishing them on my Mac all accessed through iCloud.

Could you explain how you get the document from the Mac back up to iCloud? I get how to open a doc created with an iPhone (or iDevice.)

I find dragging and dropping a document to the iCloud.com website too kludgy ... hope you have a better way.
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Originally Posted by Kame View Post

I'm not so optimistic about iCloud either. If iCloud does not incorporate at least minimum collaboration/sharing features, this is a great loss for me.

FYI, iWork.com allowed you to share iWork documents to the public where most, in my case everyone, does not have iWork or Mac.
Also, it just recently added a feature to embed Keynote presentation to a webpage.

Oh gosh I'm sure they will, there is no reason why they wouldn't. Though iWork is not considered an enterprise level app so maybe Apple just figures if you need those features your going to use Microsoft's 360 if your a company or Skydrive if your a basic user.
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