Apple says new iPad response is "off the charts," preorders sold out - Page 7

Yea I tried most of them, I finally found the perfect one. The Asus Slider, I can dual boot into Ubuntu 11.04 but Android is really like Linux, I have a LAMP server and Eclipse running in Android 4.03. This new Padphone is faster though and it's a phone to not just a tablet or laptop.

Preordered at 5 on Wednesday. Got a tracking no. thurs. nite. Called FEDEX yesterday because it says unit is in "MIDDLETOWN, PA", and is to be overnighted". I told them I live in NYC, and i should get it on Mon. or Tue. He then put a directive note in my order to release it for delivery on Mon.
Should i be holding my breath all day Monday till 3pm, instead of friday???
Thx folks.

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The Asus Padphone keyboard is much different, it has a built in battery and is very, very sturdy. have you ever played with Asus Transformer. It's the same dock.

I think that device looks inherently flawed but I do like Asus and think they make solid HW for the price and get amazing battery life compared to other comparable OEMs so I wish you well.

Yeah these are all fringe devices going nowhere, not sure why they are being trolled on this Apple site!

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Not going to try the Asus padphone (not because it is a fringe device going nowhere), but because for the same $$$ I would rather use a laptop, so I can use stuff such as the Roland Quadcapture. If I am going to use a consumption device the only answer is the ipad as the long q's prove!

Hey thanks, I still wont give up my iPad, I need it for my music. Can I ask you why you won't think it will work. I really thought the same thing before I finally broke down and bought my Asus Slider. I now love it so much it's become my main traveling companion, almost replacing my Macbook Air, almost.

Yes, I'm not sure why anyone would have pre-ordered on the 16th for in-store pickup. It will likely be a zoo at most of the Apple stores. I can totally see doing that once the initial rush is over, though.

It's iOS devices that people wait for. When the new MacBook Air came out last July, I pre-ordered it, but then cancelled when I realized that I could just get it the next day at the store (5th Avenue no less) without waiting, rather than wait an extra day for my pre-order to arrive. OTOH, I was annoyed that I couldn't pre-order the unlocked iPhone 4S at the initial launch, and wound up having to use the in-store reservation system (and I purchased an "AT&T" device only phone to get an unlocked one a few weeks before the unlocked one officially released here).

Oh sorry just making conversation. Apple keeps saying that a lot of people are using their iPads more then their PCs. If this is true I just really wish the iPad OS would be more like OSX and not so closed.

While I can see where file management remains an issue (for now), there's a difference between what you like and what's actually necessary. The latter is largely a matter of habitual workflow, and while having to change up your way of doing things might not strike you as a worthwhile bargain, it's still not an actual general shortcoming of the platform. Apple didn't leave out direct file management access because its too hard to do or they couldn't figure it out, they left it out because its part of the new computing paradigm they're developing. As such, I have no doubt they're even now working on new workflows that allow anyone to do anything they need.

Now that workflow might involve Apple's servers or even (horror) iTunes, but distaste for that is different from not being able to do something at all. It's important to remember that the "wide open freedom" of PCs are actually just familiar routines. I can no more do anything I want to do on a desktop computer than I can make a car fly, it's just that I'm very, very familiar with a computer's limitations, restrictions and conventions-- so much so I don't really think about them, and treat what I can do like it was a natural, unbounded process.


That doesn't strike me as a very typical use case, however. It gets back to "I should be able to do this because I want to, and if the iPad can't it's broken" way of thinking. I mean, there's nothing keeping an iPad owner from watching streaming movies, it's just setup somewhat differently.


What's "retarded" about using iTunes? And perhaps the fact that you think that has something to do with your difficulties?


Yeah, it seems like you're kind of going out of your way to enforce the old "Apples are for the art department, anything else is for work" canard, but that takes no measure of the vast gulf in actual productivity apps between the platforms. What good is dicking around with the file system if you don't have the apps to create files in the first place? And yes, I'm sure you have each and every app you need on the Asus, but there's no denying that there's hugely more development activity going on building out the iPad app ecosystem, across all kinds of disciplines.


If the Padphone strikes you as the coolest thing you've seen, I kind of think you should sell the iPad and move on. I don't think you're really Apple's intended customer.

Funny. The stock was down at the actual announcement, but then rebounded the next day once the market had a chance to absorb the news. My guess is we'll see a pop, but it's tough to say. Apple has gone up quite a bit over the last few weeks. We'll get a better sense of how sustainable their stock price trajectory is next month when they release earnings. The iPad launch will be included in the quarterly results, so that should offset the effect of people delaying purchases at the end of February (which is what led to Apple's earnings "miss" in the September quarter).

Why? What purpose does it serve to host a website off of a tablet or smartphone?

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Yep, love the iPad for music creation. My only point is I now use my tablet as my laptop and I think the world is going in this direction.

• A desktop UI can't be whipped up and I've seen no evidence that netbook feature will offer one.
• The netbook keyboard and battery option is an option which means less buyers than the main smartphone/tablet combo which translates into less support than will probably be desired by users.
• A netbook that is running ARM, even a fast ARM chip is still slow. If you are using a desktop you are likely wanting something more robust unless it's just general word processing.
• If a call comes in and I'm using the netbook or tablet I have to stop what I'm doing and remove the phone from inside the device.
• I'm seen the price for just the tablet/smartphone to be over $1000 USD.

I can't see this making any sense for a smartphone user, but I can see how plugging a tablet into a docking station that offered a good windowed UI could have its benefits.

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Powerhouse users & hardcore gamers (which are the minority) will not be satisfied with the new ipad if they are trying to use it as a Macbook Pro. But if you understand the limitations and use it for its intended purpose, then you will be more than happy. I am not going to hook my Roland Quadcapture and AKG C550 mic to it, cos I know you can't, and Apple never said you could. So I use my cheap-ass AMD APU netbook for that, but my netbook is nowhere near as nice for reading emails, web surfing and other things. Also cos my netbook is windows I have to put up with slow start up times and worry about viruses and other misc crashes and things compared with the ipad.

If you read the post I use my Asus Slider as a laptop because It can run things like Eclipse on it. I use it for programming, why not is has a really nice keyboard. I'm a Unix person who always pushes the envelope on all my device.

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Maybe IOS 6 or 7 might merge with OS X, who knows! but atm this is not the case!

The figures I mentioned were quoted on Bloomberg TV last week as fact. Not analysts estimates.

That's the kind of thing that's important to phandroids. They seem to spend their time looking for bizarre things that a tablet might be able to do and then spend countless hours rooting their system and fiddling with software to try to make it work.

iPad users (like Mac users) don't care about doing things just for the sake of geekiness. If it doesn't have a practical purpose, forget it.


It all depends on how you define 'market'. In the real world, Tim Cook publicly stated that they are not seeing any sign of the Fire taking any iPad customers. That's pretty strong evidence that the Fire isn't real competition for the iPad.


No, technically, market share is measured when a product is purchased by a consumer.


Like American Airlines. US Air Force. And thousands of other companies....


Getting them into customers hands a couple of days early doesn't help a bit. People are buying them faster than Apple can ship them so there's plenty of early interest.

OTOH, having a few of them in peoples' hands can create problems as some people complain that there's didn't come as early as their neighbor's. And allegations of favoritism. And, in today's legal climate, possibly even lawsuits. More importantly, having a single launch day when several million are delivered on the same day creates a massive amount of press that a staggered release doesn't achieve.

You can use your really nice keyboard to ssh into a server. I don't understand the value of hosting those services on the tablet.

What? You are joking? Why do you think they kept the iPad 2 and lowered the price.

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LOL hardcore progammer on an ASUS slider. I like ASUS products, my monitor is an ASUS pa246 hooked up to my MAC, but I not going to fork out $$$$ on a consumption device to do some programming. Get a laptop for the same $$$ and stop trolling on this site!

So that means all of these laptops are toys because they are also sold at Toys R Us?

Very true... but that tiny amount is more than some OEM's entire production runs!

I would be curious to know... has a store ever sent an iPad back to Apple because they couldn't sell it?

I don't know how many iPads a particular store like Target orders... but I can't imagine a single iPad stays on the shelf for more than a few days.

The speed on my Asus Slider is actually pretty quick for what I'm doing and this new Padphone is 3 times faster. I'm just a programmer, so I use a IDE like Eclipse and Zend, a few services like LAMP and Tomcat all which run very quickly. When you get a phone call you can answer it right on the tablet, you can either use the speaker phone or use the included stylus as the phone, yes it has a mini microphone and speaker in the fricken pen. How cool is that.

I get your point though. I travel very extensively for work and the less equipment I can bring the easier my life is. That's why I love tablets, most of them have great battery life and are fast enough for what I do on them. Unfortunately it doesn't matter how much I bitch and complain Apple isn't going to install a lite or any version of OSX on their tablets. So I have to bring a laptop if I want to do any editing of my programs. However I found that Android 4.03 offers me a workable solution that gives me the best of both worlds. The power of a Linux based OS that begs to be hacked into little pieces. My Asus Slider is even overclocked to 1.6 GHZ without much in the way of better loss, how neat is that.

Still I would prefer a iPad, wasn't there a company that converted Apple Macbooks into tablets?

90% upgrade cycle? I don't think so. Maybe for iPad 1 owners but not for iPad 2 owners. I'm not upgrading my iPad 2 coz I wanted a 128GB version. Who cares about the screen. The screen on my iPad 2 is very good. I'm not going to spend £659 on a new model just for a better screen.

Man those are some ugly notebooks. I think Toshiba has maybe three models that I would consider buying.

And faster processor, bigger battery, better camera

Sounds suspiciously like the stuff we've had to rattle off when people claim the iPhone 4S wasn't an actual upgrade.

I'm not refuting your point; I certainly don't think iPad 2 owners (and even some iPad 1 owners) would necessarily upgrade, I'm just clarifying.

If Apple know they're going to sell 10million in the first week and they make 6 million units then clearly sales will be off the hook. Therefore great headlines and higher stock.

If they made 30 million units and had 15 million orders, would sales be reported as poor?

I'd like to know the projected numbers versus units made.

I thought about buying the ipad 2 3 months ago, but knowing that Apple upgrades every year, I put it off and am glad I have. Can't wait to get the new IPAD!

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The pilots will be playing Angry Birds on it before the end of the flight just like the rest of us.

the cost, as I pointed out - the main part of my argument - is not £659 for a new model but £200. Once you trade the old one.

Yep Macbook Air and get a watch phone with a bluetooth headset like the Sennheiser MM450 if you are worried about carrying too much!

WRONG! It is simply Apple trying to make it look like they are selling a lot of iPads.
/s <- this /s means end of sarcasm.

I guess you missed the comment I quoted and the /s (meaning end of sarcasm) at the end of my comment. (having to explain really screws it up...)

That's the thing about customers who don't buy your product. You don't see them! Did Apple call you after you ordered a Dell and ask why you didn't come to them? If there was no Kindle Fire, and no other competing tablet on the market, do you really think that Apple wouldn't have sold more iPads?

Yeah, that's how you know the Fire is taking iPad customers.

My clients (I'm in the computer support business) choose between iPad and Kindle all the time. While I recommend iPad generally, if they are buying it for a 8 year old, or 3 of them, and $1500 is a lot of money, I won't discourage them from the Kindle fire. If the Fire didn't exist, I would tell them just buy an iPad for the family and keep it well protected.

That's a lost sale, and I'm PRETTY sure my clients aren't the only outliers who consider the extra $400 investment to be difficult.

I use my computer probably 10 hours a day. I would go cross eyed looking at a 10" screen for that length of time day after day.

Second point - I usually have at least 5 applications running on my computer at the same so I can flip between them quickly. When you can do that on an iPad come back and tell me how it's an alternative to the Mac/PC for people who use their computer for more than pissing about on the internet, email and watching TV.

Oh I have one, the 11" i7 variant, just prefer using my tablet more, love touchscreens. I'm also a big believer in the one device can do it all theory and will always reward a company by purchasing a device that attempts to do it.

a truck is not a car.

Great, you have your device. Each to his own but don't put people down for just using their devices how they want to.

What's in a name?

I know you're talking about "the new iPad" name used for (who would've guessed?) the new iPad, but just for kicks...

Macrumos forum member nails "iPad" in 2003:
http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/commen..._ipad_in_2003/

Here's an earlier and better prediction from 2003:
http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/...C/t-23590.html

Here's someone else from August of last year writing about those 2003 predictions:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...ight=macquest+