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post #41 of 157
must be an idiot to think a gimmick would be useful
post #42 of 157
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Originally Posted by fredaroony View Post

I asked because I can see no other reason why someone would make such a ridiculous comment.

Well, I showed you how it was not ridiculous at all. You haven't responded to the information which I provided, pointing out that there are indeed different versions of SIRI, depending upon where somebody lives.
post #43 of 157
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Originally Posted by agramonte View Post

must be an idiot to think a gimmick would be useful

Got to tell you my wife, a busy Realtor, uses Siri all the time to schedule appointments for showing amongst many other things. It's like her having a full time assistant. That's some gimmick!
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post #44 of 157
If this guy wins then the flood gates will be open ... Especially in Scotland

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post #45 of 157
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Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

Generally public has no idea what that means...

I over heard a guy bragging he had the much better and later Alpha version as he was well connected ...
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post #46 of 157
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

Beta normally means you don't advertise it as a primary selling point as well.

Hell, at least half of everything with a Google logo attached to it has been in Beta for years and they still market them as main features. It's what tech companies do these days and the user needs to know that.
post #47 of 157
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

Beta normally means you don't advertise it as a primary selling point as well.

Quite right. It's fairly unusable for me with my rather plain, perhaps slightly south-west, English accent. So I have it off to save the battery, which probably doesnt help the beta cause much but since the UK version can't do many of the features anyhow I don't miss much. I had better success with the dictation generally but in so many cases I want to format acronyms or abbreviations that typing is easier..

Siri being unusable is fine for a beta but once you use it as a sales point in television adverts it needs to be coming out of beta really soon and getting that special Apple polish of a really great feature.
post #48 of 157
Hopefully, the courts will understand what Beta means and if Apple wins, will make the Troll pay all the legal fees and court costs.
post #49 of 157
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

some people have speech defects. SIRI is obviously not always going to understand some foreigner speaking with a laughable crappy accent

So essentially someone that does not speak your language is defective and is laughable and crappy? Wow, the utter disregard some people have for others is astounding.
post #50 of 157
I guess Barry Kripke will join this lawsuit as well !
post #51 of 157
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Originally Posted by TomMcIn View Post

Hopefully, the courts will understand what Beta means and if Apple wins, will make the Troll pay all the legal fees and court costs.

But how does the average consumer know it is beta? That is the rub on this. An does beta really excuse a company? If that was the case, companies would slap beta on everything. "I know ma' am your husbands pace maker failed but it WAS beta". /S You get the point.
post #52 of 157
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

I don't have an iPhone 4S, so I haven't tried SIRI, but I do know one thing. I've seen some videos of people using SIRI, and some people have speech defects. SIRI is obviously not always going to understand some foreigner speaking with a laughable crappy accent, and other people who have never learned to speak properly. That is those people's problem. Go make an appointment with a speech therapist or something.

I'll be testing out the dictation feature on the iPAD this friday, and I expect it to work pretty good, since I don't speak like a retard.

So, you want Tim Cook to tell every non-WASP American to "Don't speak that way!"
post #53 of 157
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Well, I showed you how it was not ridiculous at all. You haven't responded to the information which I provided, pointing out that there are indeed different versions of SIRI, depending upon where somebody lives.

The information you provided changes nothing as it was the way you chose to articulate your response that makes you sound like a bigot.

You could have said the same thing in many other ways.
post #54 of 157
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Originally Posted by mrtotes View Post


Quite right. It's fairly unusable for me with my rather plain, perhaps slightly south-west, English accent. So I have it off to save the battery, which probably doesnt help the beta cause much but since the UK version can't do many of the features anyhow I don't miss much. I had better success with the dictation generally but in so many cases I want to format acronyms or abbreviations that typing is easier..

Siri being unusable is fine for a beta but once you use it as a sales point in television adverts it needs to be coming out of beta really soon and getting that special Apple polish of a really great feature.

Weird thing is I am English and the American Siri understands me really well. Just a thought, can you select to use the American one in the UK to try?
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post #55 of 157
Uhhh.... if you don't like it, maybe you should return it to Apple AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK, SLEAZEBALL.

http://store.apple.com/us/open/salespolicies

"For iPhone returns, you may return your undamaged iPhone with its included accessories within 30 days of purchase for a full refund."

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post #56 of 157
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So, you want Tim Cook to tell every non-WASP American to "Don't speak that way!"

Yeah. This is the USA. And here we speak American English. If somebody can't, then that's their problem.

If somebody is in an accident and they lose 2 fingers on each hand, and then they go out and buy an iPad, should they sue Apple because they can't make a five finger gesture?
post #57 of 157
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Originally Posted by mesomorphicman View Post

Hell, at least half of everything with a Google logo attached to it has been in Beta for years and they still market them as main features. It's what tech companies do these days and the user needs to know that.

So true. Before long Google will start meaning 'Beta' through common usage and get an alternative definition in Wikipedia!
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post #58 of 157
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But how does the average consumer know it is beta? That is the rub on this. An does beta really excuse a company? If that was the case, companies would slap beta on everything. "I know ma' am your husbands pace maker failed but it WAS beta". /S You get the point.

Software can be beta, hardware can't. I believe it says it in the fine print somewhere.

when Siri doesn't understand me, I laugh at what she translates it to. I never thought of suing!
post #59 of 157
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Originally Posted by Hellacool View Post

So essentially someone that does not speak your language is defective and is laughable and crappy? Wow, the utter disregard some people have for others is astounding.

Funny thing is he states he doesn't even have an iPhone 4s. Had someone else said what he said he'd have said ...'if you are too poor and ignorant to buy the latest product you shouldn't be commenting on it' or words to that effect ...
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post #60 of 157
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Funny thing is he states he doesn't even have an iPhone 4s. Had someone else said what he said he'd have said ...'if you are too poor and ignorant to buy the latest product you shouldn't be commenting on it' or words to that effect ...

You sure like to comment a lot about somebody that you claim to have on ignore.
post #61 of 157
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Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

Generally public has no idea what that means...

Attorney's are paid to research and know what Beta means. This guy is just trying to get some easy money. Apple should counter sue for a billion dollars.

Apple promised less from Siri than Obama promised from his administration. Now there's a law suit!
post #62 of 157
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Yeah. This is the USA. And here we speak American English. If somebody can't, then that's their problem.

But even with American English, there are dozens of accents, regional dialects, rhotic v. non-rhotic speech, vowel shifts, and drawls, It's not as simple as saying 'American English' and it being one homogenous set of pronunciations for all words. Although I'm using southern appalachian, that is just as valid a form of 'American English' as is Bostonian, Chicagoan, Texan, or southern Californian, however it is VERY different in sound to any of those.
post #63 of 157
This is going to get thrown out of court so fast. False advertising is when you show a product doing something that it literally does not do. Like showing a Barbie doll dancing around by itself.

Are you going to sue a car company because you tried to drive down the Pacific Coast Highway like they did in the commercial and made it look so easy... but since you're not a very good driver you crashed the car?
post #64 of 157
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Originally Posted by F1Ferrari View Post

But even with American English, there are dozens of accents, regional dialects, rhotic v. non-rhotic speech, vowel shifts, and drawls, It's not as simple as saying 'American English' and it being one homogenous set of pronunciations for all words. Although I'm using southern appalachian, that is just as valid a form of 'American English' as is Bostonian, Chicagoan, Texan, or southern Californian, however it is VERY different in sound to them.

I have a feeling his definition of "American" is quite limited...
post #65 of 157
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Originally Posted by F1Ferrari View Post

Although I'm using southern appalachian, that is just as valid a form of 'American English' as is Bostonian, Chicagoan, Texan, or southern Californian, however it is VERY different in sound to any of those.

Southern California? You're trippin' That's epic dude! I'm totally stoked that you think we have an accent.

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post #66 of 157
I hope his online ratings don't suffer...

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post #67 of 157
Siri should countersue for libel.
post #68 of 157
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Originally Posted by F1Ferrari View Post

But even with American English, there are dozens of accents, regional dialects, rhotic v. non-rhotic speech, vowel shifts, and drawls, It's not as simple as saying 'American English' and it being one homogenous set of pronunciations for all words. Although I'm using southern appalachian, that is just as valid a form of 'American English' as is Bostonian, Chicagoan, Texan, or southern Californian, however it is VERY different in sound to any of those.

Yes, I of course agree with that. I can only assume that Apple tried to find a middle ground.
post #69 of 157
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Originally Posted by Hellacool View Post

But how does the average consumer know it is beta? That is the rub on this. An does beta really excuse a company? If that was the case, companies would slap beta on everything.

Labelling as beta or not should not really matter. All it does is let informed consumers know that the supplier doesn't consider it final yet and expects it to improve.

How many products in general are released that although appear finished could be labelled beta since they don't work as well as advertised in most cases.

Just look at all those "cool" products advertised on late night TV that can't be bought in stores.
Should all these products also be open to lawsuits because they don't work as well as on TV or because they have fine print on how they are to be used which doesn't match what the commercials advertise?

Here is a novel idea, the customer can return the product and ultimately vote with their wallet.
post #70 of 157
Psssst...

When this suit doesn't work, why not sue at&t - their "service" doesn't work, and it IS a PHONE and it's not Beta.

Plus, you already have a lawyer!
post #71 of 157
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Siri should countersue for libel.

That or call on her Cylon friends to go visit these people one dark night ....
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post #72 of 157
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Originally Posted by fredaroony View Post

I have a feeling his definition of "American" is quite limited...

Technically speaking, a person who holds an American citizenship is American. Those who do not, are not.
post #73 of 157
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Originally Posted by elroth View Post

Siri should countersue for libel.

I'm suing for attitude. Siri keeps giving me lip. She is supposed to be helpful, instead she's a sassy smartass. Besides, she's too hard and cold to cuddle. Damn you Apple! At first I wanted to marry Siri, now I'm just sad and lonely.
post #74 of 157
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Yeah. This is the USA. And here we speak American English. If somebody can't, then that's their problem.

If somebody is in an accident and they lose 2 fingers on each hand, and then they go out and buy an iPad, should they sue Apple because they can't make a five finger gesture?

As someone said earlier, "You, sir, are an idiot!" You should be ashamed of yourself!
post #75 of 157
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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

Weird thing is I am English and the American Siri understands me really well. Just a thought, can you select to use the American one in the UK to try?

That's the same for me. For some reason, English Siri is completely useless, whereas American Siri is merely useless!

I'd say American Siri understands my English accent about 50% of the time, with English Siri way less than that.

With that said, I didn't really test English Siri that much. I switched it over to see it did better than American Siri, tried for about 10 minutes and switched back.
post #76 of 157
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

I don't have an iPhone 4S, so I haven't tried SIRI, but I do know one thing. I've seen some videos of people using SIRI, and some people have speech defects. SIRI is obviously not always going to understand some foreigner speaking with a laughable crappy accent, and other people who have never learned to speak properly. That is those people's problem. Go make an appointment with a speech therapist or something.

I'll be testing out the dictation feature on the iPAD this friday, and I expect it to work pretty good, since I don't speak like a retard.

Wow.
As Bob Uecker might say, "JUST a bit outside!"

Here's a suggestion. Print out all of your comments in this thread, then lock them up in a safe deposit box for about ten years. When you open it up ten years later and read them, you should be thoroughly embarrassed that you ever had such self absorbed and ignorant thoughts.

If you don't, then by all means run for political office.
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post #77 of 157
First world problems.

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post #78 of 157
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Originally Posted by mesomorphicman View Post

Hell, at least half of everything with a Google logo attached to it has been in Beta for years and they still market them as main features. It's what tech companies do these days and the user needs to know that.

I actually don't like the idea that customers need to know that.

In very simple terms, beta means, "not finished". I don't like that companies want to push unfinished products for their consumers to do their testing for them.

I could accept it from time to time, but it seems to just be the done thing now, and I don't really agree with it.
post #79 of 157
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Originally Posted by justflybob View Post

Wow.
As Bob Uecker might say, "JUST a bit outside!"

Here's a suggestion. Print out all of your comments in this thread, then lock them up in a safe deposit box for about ten years. When you open it up ten years later and read them, you should be thoroughly embarrassed that you ever had such self absorbed and ignorant thoughts.

If you don't, then by all means run for political office.

post #80 of 157
I'm going to sue, because Siri doesn't sound like Tricia Helfer and answer to EDI.


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