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Lines for the new iPad in New York City were declared "better than expected" on Friday, considering Apple began accepting preorders online more than a week ago.

Analyst Gene Munster with Piper Jaffray counted the number of people in line Friday at Apple's stores in New York City, and found that the crowds were smaller than last year's iPad 2 launch. But last year's launch came later in the day, at 5 p.m., and Apple also didn't take iPad 2 pre-orders in 2011.

Munster counted 750 people in line at the flagship Fifth Avenue Store, compared to 1,190 for the iPad 2 last year. In addition to the pre-orders and earlier start time, he said the new Grand Central Terminal Apple Store probably took some traffic away from the glass cube on Fifth Avenue.

Munster has maintained his prediction that Apple will sell a million units on launch day, including pre-orders. He expects Apple to announce that figure next week, on Monday.

"We believe this would imply iPad units slightly ahead of the Street at 10.2 million for the March quarter," he said in a note to investors on Friday.


Fifth Ave opening for new iPad launch. Video credit to AppleInsider reader Ryan.


Customers who order a new iPad from Apple's online store will wait an estimated two to three weeks before their order ships. The launch of the new iPad has been Apple's largest product roll-out ever, as sales began on Friday in a total of 10 countries.

Munster believes that Apple will sell 60 million iPads this year, with sales growing to 86.5 million in 2013, 122 million in 2014, and 176 million by calendar year 2015. In the coming years, he expects that Apple will continue to maintain majority market share of the tablet space, and he also believes that Apple will release a smaller, sub-$300 iPad in 2013.

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Radio Shack had 10, and no line.
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no line for me

I just ordered it.
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Now I'm thinking that maybe I should have braved the stores... FedEx says it's on the truck, out for delivery... BUT there is a delivery exception to "future delivery," so it has only a half red bar on "in transit." AND expected delivery has been charged from "by 3:00 PM" to "by 10:00 PM."
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Lines for the new iPad in New York City were declared "better than expected" on Friday, considering Apple began accepting preorders online more than a week ago.

Analyst Gene Munster with Piper Jaffray counted the number of people in line Friday at Apple's stores in New York City, and found that the crowds were smaller than last year's iPad 2 launch. But last year's launch came later in the day, at 5 p.m., and Apple also didn't take iPad 2 pre-orders in 2011.

So, IOW, Munster's opinion is worthless. He has no basis for claiming that it's better, the worse, or the same as last year.
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post #6 of 70
The whole 'standing in line thing' appeared to have some merit with the introduction of the original iPhone and (to a lesser extent) the original iPad, as they were pretty 'ground-breaking' efforts, but now that we're all well aware that these devices are going to manufactured in the tens-of-millions, and easily available via several on-line retailers, it all seems rather ridiculous and even a bit disturbing.

Oh Welll... Eagerly awaiting the arrival of my (pre-ordered) 'new iPad' 64/LTE!

(... though I do have concerns over how large these 'new iPad' optimized apps are looking).

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Now I'm thinking that maybe I should have braved the stores... FedEx says it's on the truck, out for delivery... BUT there is a delivery exception to "future delivery," so it has only a half red bar on "in transit." AND expected delivery has been charged from "by 3:00 PM" to "by 10:00 PM."

That's what mine says. At first I thought that maybe the doorman wasn't there to sign for it. However, I think since it updated exactly at 9:00am it was pre-programmed. On mine, it said it was on the vehicle for delivery at 7:36am, and then had the 9:00am "delivery exception." Usually FedEx gets to my building late in the morning or early in the afternoon. I'm expecting that it will be the same today.
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Lines for the new iPad in New York City were declared "better than expected" on Friday, considering Apple began accepting preorders online more than a week ago...

What do you mean by "better"? Honest question, as I suspect that there could be some ambiguity in values. The best line I know has 0 people in it...
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I'm thinking 2.5 to 3 million units this weekend.

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Munster counted 750 people in line at the flagship Fifth Avenue Store, compared to 1,190 for the iPad 2 last year.

Waiting for someone to turn that into proof that the iPad is losing interest.


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(... though I do have concerns over how large these 'new iPad' optimized apps are looking).


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I picked up my new AppleTV at the Fedex facility last night (I wasn't home when they attempted to deliver it). The guy there told me he just finished reading a company memo stating that it was shipping 450,000 iPads.

My iPad is coming via UPS. I don't know what their numbers are like. But if UPS' numbers are similar to Fedex, it sounds like 1 million iPads is going to be well within reach on the first day.

Honestly, I'm surprised I haven't seen business stories about how busy the shippers are going to be today. Apparently, it's enough of a strain for Fedex to put out an internal memo.
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In Paris, the line was filled with Russian scalpers.
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I'm thinking 2.5 to 3 million units this weekend.
Waiting for someone to turn that into proof that the iPad is losing interest.

I'm not at all surprised and it's not about losing interest. It's a tablet, not a phone and unsubsidized so the upfront costs are higher. Look how many millions of people JUST bought the iPad2 through the holidays. You honestly think the average person is going to run out and buy the newerish one launch weekend because the screen may be a little better? It's no doubt going to be a runaway success, in time, this go around. I'd very much assume the majority of sales are still first time tablet buyers.
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I picked up my new AppleTV at the Fedex facility last night (I wasn't home when they attempted to deliver it). The guy there told me he just finished reading a company memo stating that it was shipping 450,000 iPads.

My iPad is coming via UPS. I don't know what their numbers are like. But if UPS' numbers are similar to Fedex, it sounds like 1 million iPads is going to be well within reach on the first day.

Honestly, I'm surprised I haven't seen business stories about how busy the shippers are going to be today. Apparently, it's enough of a strain for Fedex to put out an internal memo.

Interesting, thanks for that angle on the story. This is all about the screen. Unprecedented.
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That's what mine says. At first I thought that maybe the doorman wasn't there to sign for it. However, I think since it updated exactly at 9:00am it was pre-programmed. On mine, it said it was on the vehicle for delivery at 7:36am, and then had the 9:00am "delivery exception." Usually FedEx gets to my building late in the morning or early in the afternoon. I'm expecting that it will be the same today.

On FedEx vehicle for delivery-my line is at my door, wait for FedEx
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Mine just arrived via Fedex 20 mins ago. HIGH FIVE!
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Mine just arrived via Fedex 20 mins ago. HIGH FIVE!

May I ask, what state are you in,,?
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Looks like backlight bleed is back again per the people over at Mac Rumors Hopefully my iPad which on the Fedex truck as we speak isn't stricken with this problem:



http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1341323
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(... though I do have concerns over how large these 'new iPad' optimized apps are looking).


Solution: skip everything but the Martha Stewart Cookies.
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(... though I do have concerns over how large these 'new iPad' optimized apps are looking).


Most apps use pre-generated images for everything, and thus, they'll now include copies of those same images at twice the resolution (which dramatically increases the amount of storage space required).

This is why I always push to have as much be drawn "programmatically" as possible. A few lines of code to draw things (rather than using images) can save you many megabytes in your app size. And, if done right, it can automatically scale to higher resolutions with no extra effort required. The apps which didn't increase much in size likely took this approach.
 
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Interesting, thanks for that angle on the story. This is all about the screen. Unprecedented.

I want to see it in person. The iPhone screen is great (but way too tiny), and the huge high rez iPad screen promises to be gorgeous.
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I'd very much assume the majority of sales are still first time tablet buyers.

I'm wondering how many 1st generation buyers will be getting the 3rd generation iPad. I know of at least 2 people in that camp... myself and a friend of mine. So there's 2 sales you can count in the previous buyer's list.
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Looks like backlight bleed is back again per the people over at Mac Rumors Hopefully my iPad which on the Fedex truck as we speak isn't stricken with this problem:



http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1341323

Maybe that one is an LG screen and not a Samsung screen?

Apple has had mucho problems with screens on several different devices.
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May I ask, what state are you in,,?

State of euphoria.
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State of euphoria.

Thanks for the info, jeez
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State of euphoria.

I saw that coming...
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Now I'm thinking that maybe I should have braved the stores... FedEx says it's on the truck, out for delivery... BUT there is a delivery exception to "future delivery," so it has only a half red bar on "in transit." AND expected delivery has been charged from "by 3:00 PM" to "by 10:00 PM."

A buddy of mine ordered one for his wife's birthday and it was shipped UPS and he already received it. He got it around 10:00am EST and he called and said the UPS driver told him that he had 150 and they're supposed to deliver by 10:30. Mine is coming FedEx and it still shows by 3:00pm. Hope that doesn't change.
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Thanks for the info, jeez

Just joking around. Hopefully grabowcp will be helpful (unlike myself).
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May I ask, what state are you in,,?

District of Columbia.
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Looks like backlight bleed is back again per the people over at Mac Rumors Hopefully my iPad which on the Fedex truck as we speak isn't stricken with this problem:


http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1341323

On a black one? Noooooo!
I hope to god not - last year it was just white ones and therefore I ordered black this time. I hade to return a white one 3X last time. I would have thought a new type of screen would have ceased this problem. My fingers are crossed.
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What do you mean by "better"? Honest question, as I suspect that there could be some ambiguity in values. The best line I know has 0 people in it...

Yeah, the entire headline is worthless without saying what "better" means.

To me, "better" means short lines.
To APPL investors, "better" means long lines.
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WOOT! Mine was just delivered!
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Picked my pre-ordered IPad from my local Apple retail store this morning. First Ipad for me and new to it all. Expected large line but was probably 75 people 45 min before opening. Very well organized outside the store with employees coffee cart and of course the local TV news trucks. They asked if any one had pre-ordered, after saying yes I was taken to the beginning of the second line in front of the store. At 8:00 oclock I was welcomed as the first customer in the store for my pick-up. Very efficient inside as well, paperwork (took extended warranty) was completed in 5 min, then spent 35 minutes with another employee doing the initial start up and then setting up e-mail, apps, some free downloads etc. Walked out of store at 8:40am. Great experience. Zagg keyboard and cover just arrived by UPS, time to set-up bluetooth.
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no line for me

I just ordered it.

Wonder if he knew that folks could preorder online and pickup on the store. Since it is paid for they can show up anytime, so less need to be there at the top of the day

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I'm not at all surprised and it's not about losing interest. It's a tablet, not a phone and unsubsidized so the upfront costs are higher. Look how many millions of people JUST bought the iPad2 through the holidays. You honestly think the average person is going to run out and buy the newerish one launch weekend because the screen may be a little better? It's no doubt going to be a runaway success, in time, this go around. I'd very much assume the majority of sales are still first time tablet buyers.

Correct, I and all my friends who pre-ordered are first time Retina Display iPad buyers. We all also have iPad 1, 2 or both.
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I'm wondering how many 1st generation buyers will be getting the 3rd generation iPad. I know of at least 2 people in that camp... myself and a friend of mine. So there's 2 sales you can count in the previous buyer's list.

Oh I expect a lot of iPad 1 upgrades. I'd bet almost half of the base still using one will move to the 3 in the next 6 months.
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post #36 of 70
Got to the Apple store on 4th Street in Berkeley 10 minutes before opening. About 20 people were there and I stood in line, in the rain, for 20 minutes before getting my iPad. Like with the longer line for the iPhone 4s last October, it was a bit of a party atmosphere with free coffee and umbrellas for those who wanted them.


OK, Samsung, run your silly commercial again, but I bet you only wish people would stand in line in the rain for anything you make!
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Haha two dolts on Fox Business just asked the question if it was time to upgrade to the new iPad and both of them said absolutely not. Neither of these were tech geeks so I don't get what exactly they want to make them upgrade? It has retina display, 4G LTE, dictation and faster graphics. What exactly are they expecting?
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I would no be surprised to find that Apple had over a million reserved for pre-order. Probably we over that considering the number of countries it was released in. So I'm going to suggest a much bigger first day movement, let's say 2.5 million.

As it is mine was put on the truck at 6:56 AM and I haven't gotten it yet. 😖. That is delivery by UPS! So if Apple split the workload evenly that would mean 900 thousand iPads for delivery in the US via Pre-order assuming the 450,000 rumor through FedX is accurate. Considering all the countries released in my estimate may be low.

It will most interesting to hear Apple announce the totals Monday.
post #39 of 70
Just got mine from best buy..32g wifi
Line wasn't too long...
Alot of stock left...
All 4g ones were sold out though....
Doesn't look like apple is having the supply constraints this time around...
I was surprised to even get one.
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750 people in line at the flagship Fifth Avenue Store, compared to 1,190 for the iPad 2 last year.

Samsung is already working on a commercial mocking this decrease.

"Hahaha, we trended upwards: We went from 4 to 8, that's a 100% increase. Take that!"
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