First look: Apple's new third-generation iPad with Retina display - Page 4

or a jerk.

As an owner of 3 iPhone 4S's, ipod touch 4 and a new iPad (amongst countless previous apple products) I will admit I like Apple products.

I'd rather be a jerk than delusional.

To replace iPad 2. I only sold it knowing I'd get the third gen.

Do you own one just a little bigger? Like a Macbook, Mac Mini, Mac Pro for instance?

Yep. I go through a lot of toys.

I've had 3 or 4 MBPs in the past and have a couple of desktop hackintoshes. I say 3 4Ss because I count the one I bought for GF as mine and have a factory unlocked I snagged for cheaps. I will probably want one of the upcoming MBPs even though I have no use for such. Might end up with one anyway.

I know you're not talking to me, but this is where I can certainly shed a bit of insight regarding the iPad and poor vision.

I am legally blind. Literally 20/200 with correction (obviously worse without correction). I'm one of those people who've been hoping for years to get true resolution independence on the Mac. Waiting... waiting... waiting...

In my experience, the difference between the screen on the iPad 2 and the new iPad is huge. I suspect that, the worse someone's vision is, the more useful the improved resolution becomes. For someone with poor vision, every little bit of clarity helps. Think of it like a menu at a restaurant. I dread menus with frilly or artsy fonts because they're usually unreadable. Give me something with crisp text and I do better.

So... in my experience... the idea that the new iPad's improved screen is only a benefit to people with excellent vision is very wrong.

Got great vision? You'll love it!
Got poor vision? You'll appreciate it in ways people with great vision are fortunate to not realize.

I'm loving my new iPad. TOTALLY worth the upgrade price. Then again, I was smart about upgrading. I sold my iPad 2 two weeks ago and got more for it than the identical iPad 2 now sells for new. SWEET!

Was it 9.7" and black?

My iPad display is still not as bright as I'd like.

I think it also might look a little yellowy but that might be because i"m used to my Mac's display.

Still, no complaints. 2048x1536 display is incredible. Text looks great. I'm glad Amazon knew they had to get that Kindle app updated ASAP.

Whatever makes you feel better! Now let's get back to reality.

Weight is one of the reasons why I decided to go with the iPad 2 for $100 less. I opted for 32GB because accommodating the iPad 3 means bigger programs and I'm glad I opted for the 32GB version. Even if one is using the iPad 2, a lot of software updates are getting larger to handle the new unit.

Future versions of this terrific product, I would think, would focus on weight. That is the device's one flaw. In addition, 16GB doesn't cut it any more. I realize that Apple wanted to keep the perceived cost down to fend off competitors coming up from the rear but I really don't recommend opting for the 16GB version either with the iPad 2 or the new model.

Another reason I went for the cheaper iPad 2 is that I don't like the idea of having one of the first products coming off the assembly line employing leading-edge technology. It wouldn't surprise me if there were some early production glitches and I'd rather not take the chance.

The iPad 2 is a good value, even if you opt for the 32GB version. I do think that having a higher resolution display will be a fine upgrade to the overall iPad experience but I think a future version featuring 32GB as the base memory capacity and boasting significantly less weight, will be a better choice than the model Apple just released. In the meantime, I think the iPad 2 will be an adequate stand-in.

By the way, at the retail location where I work what happened is that the 32GB iPad 3 models all sold but the 16GB versions were passed over. I suspect that if Apple had plans to pump out a significant number of 16GB iPads, they may want to rethink that one. With the size of apps growing dramatically to take advantage of the Retina display and with developers sure to bring out progressively more sophisticated (hence larger) programs, 16GB will be perceived as an unacceptable minimum standard. I suppose it's an indication that the tablet is maturing but nonetheless, it could come to be perceived as a flaw in the base iPad 3 that it is trying to get by on only 16GB.

Wonder if it's possible Apple reeled back the maximum allowed brightness for battery conservation? I don't have an iPad 1 or 2 to compare to but at 50% the new one seems good under your standard office fluorescent drab

What a dumb question! So he can complain about it, say Apple sucks and feel superior.

Ugh. Gameloft's retina "update" on Modern Combat 3 is a disappointment. Some graphics have been upscaled, but the characters are still low resolution.

well i went down to the store and checked it out to see for myself if the screen was that great. well, it is great. but otherwise ... my iPad 2 3G works fine for me when i need it out of the home (and where it don't there is no 4G either). and the new iPad doesn't do anything special my iPad 2 can't (dictation excepted, but that is non-essential for sure). and the 4G data plan would cost more too.

so i don't see a compelling reason to upgrade. will wait for next year's newest and greatest (i'd really like better speakers). however ... my wife wants her own now. she only uses it around the house, so i think i'll buy her the new wifi model instead of passing along my old one to her (this will score big points). then i can borrow it sometimes ... maybe.

Really digging it so far. The LTE screams in my area, the Verizon LTE with free hot spot feature is awesome. I picked up the new Apple TV this afternoon as well. The picture quality is definitely worth the upgrade. Not sure if it's just me but the audio seems a bit better over Airplay, I wonder if they tweaked something there.

Thanks of sharing, I enjoyed reading your post, I have astigmatism, and as you can understand I can't wait to savour the new display, and appreciate it in ways, as you say that people with great vision are fortunate to not realise. It will help me moderate some of my dissapointment at apple for dropping the ball on resolution independence for so long.

I ll unapologetically tout my own horn again here but I have been expexting and predicting this for the past couple of weeks or so since the leak that the base model would start at 16gb, if they ve already assembled a lot of them they ll have a problem, but they ll also have a problem with dissatisfied customers if they manage to sell a lot of the 16gb iPad 3s, and it will be a lose lose situation for them. They should have expected though that when they sell hd movies at the store, ~1gb textbooks, ~1gb games, tons of apps, music, podcasts, iTunes u, etc. etc. and when the cloud can't possibly cater for all that, that 16gbs would be a joke in this day and age for a tablet. As I said before 2-3 games 2-3 textbooks, one movie and the base model with a few apps thrown in is useless for anything more...

Because I like apple I hope this decision of theirs doesn't come back to bite them in the ass, because google and Samsung are just around the corner with retina displays too and if they get a product with an SD card slot (and they would be colossal morons not to) they can go again look here's something that can store more than just a few games, movies and apps and we don't restrict you in space, cause that's us we give you options and apple doesn't...all enormous garbage marketing lies of course because no market would have existed to begin with had it not been for apple, but still very capable lies based on a concrete disadvantage apple have with their choice to offer such an advanced versatile post pc device with storage options equal to those on launch day a couple of years ago, when every machine of theirs is getting bumps in storage and when retina puts even more demands for storage.

Apple has some pretty clever people working for it, when they don't stick their heads in the sand and they I expect they will bump storage capacities soon, one more reason for not naming this the iPad 3, but the new iPad. Of course by then quite a few people who buy into the 16gb model will feel cheated, others might wait for larger storage models to come soon and slow down sales, and still even more people might opt for alternatives if competitors are quick to the market.

A stupid decision by apple this one, because they didn't need to keep their profit margins as high when competitors are even selling at a loss, and when the profits for the more content they could sell would definitely make up for the added price of more storage (which anyway they get very cheap by virtue of their flash mega deals and pre purchases) and when they aim to dominate tablet markets a la iPod markets.

Now it seems they 've gotten themselves needlessly in a bit of a situation, and it would be a shame to give the androids a helping hand in advancing in a market they singlehandedly created with such a simple gimmick as an sd card slot...

I agree on the very slight yellow. I noticed that when placing the iPad 3 right next to the iPad 2. I was a little disappointed about the brightness as well. I was expecting more POP at any given level. Here are a few other quick observations:

* RealRacing2HD: Some of the animations before the races stutter. While racing, however, it's silky smooth.
* Using Mail, when scrolling through your inboxes, the iPad 2 visually smoother. There is more visual disruption going on with the iPad 3. It's a nitpick but reading v3 text while scrolling is more difficult in some Apps. Not so with web pages.
* Mail, WSJ and text in general: It's much sharper. It also appears like a lighter-weight font is used. So to my eyes, it looks less black, as if there's less contrast. I think the anti-aliasing in the iPad2 makes the text appear beefier and blacker at the expense of fuzziness.
* The pink flower on apple.com is more saturated. Colors in general are more saturated. Words With Friends tiles look yellow on the v3 vs. a slight tinge of orange on the v2.
* HUGE difference in iPhone Apps for the iPad. The ugly pixelation when in 2x is gone.

My son, who has 20/20 vision, went "Wow!" when he turned it on and went exploring. My reaction was a tad less enthusiastic. I can see a big difference, but less than what I was expecting after reading the reviews.

My iPad has the same yellowy cast it. Also the color matrix has been changed ( for the worse ).
Play this HD test video on a iPad2 and New iPad then look at the green/blue bar on the right side.... is it blue or purple. if you have a iPhone 4 play the same video and see if it matches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaqe1qesQ8c
Also my iPad really puts out the heat.... big difference in others.
Let me know what you see on yours

Wow, that's a great test. The iPad 2 and iPhone 4S are identical but you're right, the vertical green/blue bar on the right side is more purple on the iPad 3.

So your seeing the the same thing as I am. I don't know why they would it but on broadcast cameras there is a color matrix function that when left on it will see that type of blue as purple.
Play some video with people in jeans and you will see the difference and I also noticed the blacks are not true black.

Indoor:

http://youtu.be/kPynYDjYWSg

Outdoor:

http://youtu.be/C0NSP-g5CaI

I think uploading to YT from the iPad affects the quality- I notice I can not even watch it in anything above 480p, even though I chose to upload HD in the iPad camera. Hmm..

update: YT just takes longer to upload the higher quality on their end.. they're showing up now

I see your problem right away... That outdoor clip would be a lot better if there were some "cement chickens" or even "earthenware chickens" in your jardîn!

HAHA! my neighbor actually has that terra cotta hen in the garden.. you can see its behind at the top of the screen when I zoom in on the aeonium.. behind the green jade pot

Now, the coup de grâce is to have a "ceramic turtle" that sits on a ledge or bench and overlaps both the front and back -- as if it were stranded there at high tide.

A terra cotta hen gives a whole new meaning to Bonsai!

Would a plastic frog and ceramic duck do??

I see two major things happening on a large scale within the next 12 months:

1) all online and web sites will be reworked to exploit the new iPad retina display -- why settle for anything less?

2) many [any] online and web site requiring heavy text input will support the new iPad dictation function -- if only to define text strings that are recognized by the web sites... for navigation and data entry.

This is the next advantage of post-pc individual computing...

If you think the disappearance of mobile Flash was fast... just watch how quickly the iPad way becomes the dominant way... then, the only way to exploit the web!

-I highly recommend the Padlette:

http://www.padlette.com/

-And the smart cover- which I have in tan leather.

-The iPad is SEXY in person. In pictures it always looked rather bloated. It is comfortably thin and the aluminum casing sparkles. The laser engraving is gorgeous.

-Old iPad apps are definitely noticeable. The icons look like images during the Netscape 1.0 days that have yet to reach their final refresh- blurry and pixelated. Pandora updated their app today, and the fonts, logos, and controls are so sharp now compared to before. Surfing the web, everybody is going to have to update their imagery since it is obvious what text is an image and what is actual text, as real text looks like somebody wrote it on the screen with a fountain pen.

-The display is definitely not as bright as I thought it would be- at their highest settings it is noticeably fainter than my 4G iPod touch.

-Time is going by sooooooo fast! It's 7:00 whhaaaaaaa?

Sigh... yes they would...

When we moved to Silicon Valley (job in Palo Alto) in 1973, there were very few houses on the market...

I traveled a lot with IBM and whenever I got back into town I would go house hunting for almost the entire time I was in town.

There was this one house in Los Altos that had a beautiful yard and swimming pool -- but the pool area was littered with all kinds of ceramic planters/animals...

Charlie, an IBM friend was also moving into the area and would accompany my wife and I on house hunting trips...

Each time we got back in town, all the previous houses had been sold -- except this particular house (it was a nice house).

We got to calling it the "cement chicken" house -- even Fran our realtor called it that.


Anyway, we eventually bought a house in Saratoga...


About 6 months later, a fellow IBMer from Las Vegas and Phoenix was promoted to be my new manager in Palo Alto...

Who else... Marv bought the "cement chicken" house!

I'm very happy with my new iPad. The new display alone with worth the upgrade. Seeing is believing, peeps!

As somebody that has lived in Las Vegas- that doesn't surprise me one bit.

Yeah, that's why when I called a douchebag on here a douchebag he reported me and I got kicked off for a few days. The moderators on here, and attendant complainers, are sometimes ridiculous. When someone is an obvious douchebag, or clueless about what they are talking about, you should be able to be honest with them and let them know.

And you can do that, just with better words. I don't believe any of us are actually infants and this isn't a schoolyard brouhaha. Civility will always win out over knee-jerk reactions.

Somewhat off topic, but when aren't I?

At least one developer, the folks that make Jump Desktop, discovered a bug in their program only after receiving an actual, shipping new iPad. The bug did not show up in the SDK simulator and never appeared on the iPad and iPad 2 units running iOS 5.1

They found the bug, and have already submitted the update to Apple. Apple, for their part, has promised a very quick review.

I actually expected more of this to happen, but of all the 190 or so apps installed, this was the only one that I have noticed any issue with so far.

Overall first impression of the new iPad? Freaking awesome!

Checked it out in person at the local Apple Store. Yes, the screen really is beautiful and everything definitely felt spiffier than on my iPad 2. Apple will easily sell 70 million+ of the new iPad this year. That being said, having bought two iPad 2s last year (one for the wife and kids), I'm going to pass on this one and will upgrade next year. But I will be out there telling other family members, relatives, friends, and colleagues who don't have a tablet that it's now a great time to take the plunge.

Hey, you wanker. You have more apps than I have!

Apple states that the sound from Tv and movies is louder and clearer.