Media: Everything Kills You

"What we've found is white rice is likely to increase the risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially at high consumption levels such as in Asian populations," Qi Sun of the Harvard School of Public Health told AFP.
"But at the same time people should pay close attention to the other things they eat.

Originally Posted by jazzguru

The mainstream media is the propaganda wing of government (regardless of which party is in power). They would have us believe everything is killing us and must be regulated, controlled, or eliminated by government to save us from ourselves.

This is true of food, foreign policy, guns - you name it. The State exists for one purpose: to perpetuate its existence and grow its power by whatever means possible.

All that is required is that people remain complacent and compliant.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

"Pink slime -- that ammonia-treated meat in a bright Pepto-bismol shade -- may have been rejected by fast food joints like McDonald's, Taco Bell and Burger King, but is being brought in by the tons for the nation's school lunch program.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture is purchasing 7 million pounds of the "slime" for school lunches, The Daily reports. Officially termed "Lean Beef Trimmings," the product is a ground-up combination of beef scraps, cow connective tissues and other beef trimmings that are treated with ammonium hydroxide to kill pathogens like salmonella and E. coli. It's then blended into traditional meat products like ground beef and hamburger patties.
"We originally called it soylent pink," microbiologist Carl Custer, who worked at the Food Safety Inspection Service for 35 years, told The Daily. "We looked at the product and we objected to it because it used connective tissues instead of muscle. It was simply not nutritionally equivalent [to ground beef]. My main objection was that it was not meat."
Custer and microbiologist Gerald Zernstein concluded in a study that the trimmings are a "high risk product," but Zernstein tells The Daily that "scientists in D.C. were pressured to approve this stuff with minimal safety approval" under President George H.W. Bush's administration. The USDA asserts that its ground beef purchases "meet the highest standard for food safety."
Controversy surrounding "pink slime" stems from various safety concerns, particularly dangers associated with ammonium hydroxide, which can both be harmful to eat and has potential to turn into ammonium nitrate -- a common component in homemade bombs, according to MSNBC. It's also used in household cleaners and fertilizers."
~ huffpo

There's more to this story, but I'm out and busy.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

Kudos for the "balanced" pun.

I was talking to a guy who was sure I must have eaten this " pink slime" while I was In the US. Hw went to the loo, and I called in here on my iPhone only to see this thread.

He said, and he was a bit confusing, that the us gov used to fund this for poor school kids, but are now offering more choice.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

I generally agree with your position. Eat well etc. one day it's good for you the next day it's bad. The stress alone would surely shorten someone life if they fussed over it all constantly.

However, schools are funded by fast food giants

and I bet it's the repubs who mostly strongly defend those fake food Pushers.

Sorry, poor Internet connection

Originally Posted by FloorJack

Part of what's going on here is that Americans are super fat and their trying to find a smoking gun so they can assuage the blame.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

Maybe it's different in the US, but in the UK fast food companies pay schools a lot of money to have their vending machines inside schools. The schools rely on the substantial money they get for doing so. It's certainly typical of the right to see this as good.

However, here's a pretty remarkable story-

"The Obama Administration has given its blessing to PepsiCo to continue utilizing the services of a company that produces flavor chemicals for the beverage giant using aborted human fetal tissue. LifeSiteNews.com reports that the Obama Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) has decided that PepsiCos arrangement with San Diego, Cal.-based Senomyx, which produces flavor enhancing chemicals for Pepsi using human embryonic kidney tissue, simply constitutes ordinary business operations.

The issue began in 2011 when the non-profit group Children of God for Life (CGL) first broke the news about Pepsis alliance with Senomyx, which led to massive outcry and a worldwide boycott of Pepsi products. At that time, it was revealed that Pepsi had many other options at its disposal to produce flavor chemicals, which is what its competitors do, but had instead chosen to continue using aborted fetal cells or as Senomyx deceptively puts it, isolated human taste receptors (http://www.naturalnews.com).

A few months later, Pepsi shareholders filed a resolution petitioning the company to adopt a corporate policy that recognizes human rights and employs ethical standards which do not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements. But the Obama Administration shut down this 36-page proposal, deciding instead that Pepsis used of aborted babies to flavor its beverage products is just business as usual, and not a significant concern.

Were not talking about what kind of pencils PepsiCo wants to use we are talking about exploiting the remains of an aborted child for profit, said Debi Vinnedge, Executive Director of CGL, concerning the SEC decision. Using human embryonic kidney (HEK-293) to produce flavor enhancers for their beverages is a far cry from routine operations!
~ http://www.infowars.com/obama-agency...ss-operations/

To be clear, the aborted foetal tissue used to make Pepsi's flavour chemicals does not end up in the final product sold to customers, according to reports -- it is used, instead, to evaluate how actual human taste receptors respond to these chemical flavorings. But the fact that Pepsi uses them at all when viable, non-human alternatives are available illustrates the company's blatant disregard for ethical and moral concerns in the matter.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

No. I only read that was left out of the article after reading some of the comments on Alex Jones's site, by which point I'd already posted here. I can't do all the work for you.

With all the modern tech, nuked food (banned in Europe I believe), genetic modification etc, it's a major topic of concern for many people. Add in these factory farms for cows etc, cruelty to animals and I'm not sure your thread is too thoughtful.

Originally Posted by tonton

Honestly, the truth is that white rice CAN make you fat, if the rest of your diet is not appropriate for a rice heavy diet. It's not that the rice is the problem, it's the rest of the diet that is the problem, and the rice can make it worse. If you have a fast food diet and don't eat a lot of white rice, you might not get as fat as you would if you have a fast food diet and a lot of rice.

It's just like cholesterol. I get sick and tired of people saying they can't eat certain foods because they contain too much cholesterol. The fact is that you can eat as much cholesterol as you want without having a cholesterol problem if you eat enough foods containing antioxidants and other nutrients so that you can use the cholesterol you need and neutralize and get rid of the rest properly. It's not the cholesterol that's the problem, it's the rest of your diet.

It's not the rice that's the problem, it's the rest of your diet.

Originally Posted by BR

What about their methodology do you find to be nonsense? Was there something wrong with the manner in which the study was conducted?


On what grounds? You don't like the results?

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

I've not read the last two paragraphs!

If one eats lots of fish, veg etc and rice, great. But if one eats fried fat with rice, there might be a problem. Pretty obvious really. Rice is high carb. It's all about balance. Lame thread, if that's all it's about.

Originally Posted by BR

Nope, you're not reading the same article I am.



Correlation and causation are not the same thing. (Though, this clearly explains your positions on many other issues if you have trouble distinguishing the two.) You do not get to say "link" and then substitute interchange that word with "cause" as if the two are the same.

This thread is a perfect example of why people in this country need to be scientifically literate.

"What we've found is white rice is likely to increase the risk of Type 2 diabetes, especially at high consumption levels such as in Asian populations," Qi Sun of the Harvard School of Public Health told AFP.

In the studies carried out in China and Japan, those who ate most rice were 55 percent likelier to develop the disease than those who ate least. In the United States and Australia, where consumption of rice is far lower, the difference was 12 percent.
Participants in the two Asian countries ate three or four servings of rice a day on average, compared to just one or two servings a week in the Western countries.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

If people read studies like these who eat a lot of white rice, they might think to themselves I'll eat brown brice instead, and have a more balanced diet. It's a bit lame to even attack the media over it. Plenty of people still don't get it, and frankly the better informed they are the less we'll pay in taxes.

Originally Posted by BR

SDW, YOU sensationalized the article. I saw plenty of restrained language and not once did I see the article claim that white rice CAUSED diabetes. You made that connection because you appear to fail at basic reading comprehension here.

Linking white rice to an increased risk of diabetes DOES NOT MEAN white rice causes diabetes.

The VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH is a quote from the scientists saying not to focus on a single food but on a pattern of consumption.

BREAKING NEWS: Halfway decent science article that actually shows some restraint SENSATIONALIZED BY SDW2001 IN HIS WAR AGAINST THE MEDIA

Originally Posted by jazzguru



The Illusion of Free Speech

The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that theres free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.

Noam Chomsky

source

Originally Posted by marvfox

They say white rice has sugar which is contained in there.Brown rice is more healthy.