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post #81 of 170
3/19/12 at 3:59pm
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... saying that some 3 million copies were sold not including pre-orders.

I am not sure that the figure really excludes pre-orders.

The official announcement states:
"CUPERTINO, California―March 19, 2012―Apple® today announced it has sold three million of its incredible new iPad®, since its launch on Friday, March 16."

Technically this does say sold since its launch which agrees with your interpretation. However, one could argue that since pre-orders are delivered on the launch date (supposedly), that they are also sales in that time frame. Otherwise, why did they not tell the number of pre-orders as well?

So while I agree with you on a strict interpretation - I think this issue is a bit ambiguous.
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post #82 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:00pm
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You are probably right about that. Question is, how much bandwidth is taken up just using Dictation versus Siri?

Time will tell. For now I haven't been using Siri that much, not because it doesn't work but because I don't always adapt to new features immediately. People I know who are using Siri the most seem to be new iPhone users. I've been using an iPhone since day one and already have a method for doing things, so while Siri might be easier, it's hard to retrain myself to use Siri.

While not Siri, Voice Dictation is a part of Siri using the same Dragon Dictation back-end to resolve your speech-to-text before the results are evaluated. With Voice Dictation (on both the 4S and iPad) the results are pushed back to the device.

Which means that bandwidth likely isn't the issue, but a bottleneck in data processing could be. The servers that content speech-to-text are liekly not the same ones that convert text-to-meaning. That could mean that Siri (proper) is bottlenecked or perhaps not at all. It could be a marketing decision that just isn't clear to us yet.

But how could it be a bandwidth issue? We'll I suppose that iPad users are more likely to dictate more than on an iPhone due to the ways these devices are used and the demographics of the users but I think that's a reach. I'd also think that Siri's simple questions are a lot less bandwidth than the average dictation.

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Originally Posted by brianloftus View Post

The Apple Press Release states: The new iPad is a blockbuster with three million sold―the strongest iPad launch yet, said Philip Schiller

Therefore, I think pre-orders, even those not yet shipped, are being included.

I assume only unshipped per-orders that have completed the transaction which only occurs when the product is being prepared for shipping.


PS: Typing this on my iPad I'm noticing AI needs to update their images for the Retina Display. Even the little buttons looked overly blurry.

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3/19/12 at 4:03pm
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That's funky. The screen is much better, and it's pretty obvious. It's hard to back to the 2 after having used the new one for a short while.

And dictation is very accurate as reported by just about everyone, as well as my own finding and that of my friends.

Something is wrong there.

I found dictation to be excellent (when I first got the new iPad). Then I put it in my old 3rd-party iPad 2 case...

Dictation doesn't seem to work as well unless you hold the iPad (rather than using the case as a stand).

I suspect the old case or the surface, on which it is sitting, is blocking the microphones.
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post #84 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by AppleGreen View Post

I predict:

100 million iPads in 12 months.

$1000 per share by Dec 31.

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I am pretty bullish but that's a bit extreme.

Would love to be proven wrong though.

Not as bullish as many might think. Apple sold 55 million iPad 2s in 2011. It's entirely likely they will sell at least that many iPad 2s in 2012, leaving 45 million 3rd gen iPads to cover he gap.
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post #85 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:05pm
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Damn!!! That's a lot of people for Samesung to make fun of!!!

Its just all the fanboys upgrading thats what samsung will tell you
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post #86 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post

My prediction of 3-4 million was right!

Maybe.

If AI is correct and the 3 M figure does not include preorders, then the total could be well over 4 M.

OTOH, I suspect that AI is in error. Apple's press release simply says that 3 M were sold and did not exclude preorders, so the 3 M figure probably includes preorders and AI is wrong.

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But, but, but . . . Rob Enderle just said in a TV interview that Apple is abut to have a really terrible quarter, and THAT is the reason for the dividend and stock buy-back strategy announced today! Rob said so! It must be true! [Sarcasm]

Here's a tip for you.

When it comes to Apple, you can't go far wrong by completely inverting anything that Enderle says.
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post #87 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:10pm
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Its just all the fanboys upgrading thats what samsung will tell you

All those stupid fanboys lining up to buy a toy.
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3/19/12 at 4:14pm
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Its just all the fanboys upgrading thats what samsung will tell you

But that is who they advertise to as well is their own fanboys. I haven't seen an ad yet that made any convincing case for switching from Apple to Samsung. If they were trying to sell Apple people they wouldn't make fun of them for standing in line, that just has the opposite effect but Android fans eat that stuff up.

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post #89 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:15pm
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But the first sentence of the article says "not including pre-orders".

Whoa! I missed the "not including pre-orders"

That means 3 million ==

-- Apple Stick and Stucco sold to end users
-- Apple delivered or in transit (ownership changed) to 3rd-party resellers (whether sold to end users or not)

I have to believe that Apple shipped (charged CC) 1 million pre-orders through the weekend.
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post #90 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:19pm
3 million... 4 million new iPads... sold in 3 days...

It doesn't really matter...

3 million anything is a whole shitload!
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post #91 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:19pm
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I think you are commiting a serious mistake think the stock has anywhere to go but up, perhaps in short to medium term, I wouldn't gamble more than 10% of my portfolio in one stock. IF you have you WILL get burned one day, don't come crying here when it happens.

And I got burned by selling some of my Apple about a year ago at the advice of my broker who said, "Take some profits!" I should have kept it (obviously). And while I agree that diversity is the best strategy for any portfolio (I'm so paranoid, I also keep lots in cash, which keeps me from stroking out when the market drops), if I had invested my entire portfolio in Apple when I first bought the stock some years ago, I'd probably be worth $10 million now.
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post #92 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:20pm
Was that "not including pre-orders" part of the original posting, or added just now? I'm pretty sure it at least wasn't originally part of the title of the article.
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post #93 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:24pm
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Corrupt Russia doesn't even have an Apple store.

True, but corrupt America has heaps of them.
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post #94 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:25pm
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They said 3M sold, so I would think that pre-orders were included in that number.

Wow, just wow. Go Apple go!

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saying that some 3 million copies were sold not including pre-orders

So who ever AI is quoting is saying that the 3 million does not include preorders.
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post #95 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:26pm
Cnet is saying "minus preorders" as well, but for all I know they're using the AI article as a source.

They do point out that the iPhone 4S numbers didn't include preorders, so maybe there's an assumption that that's how Apple reports. I still haven't seen any citations to any Apple statements that makes that definitive, however.

EDIT: Just looked at the Apple statement again and it just says "since launch." To me that's too ambiguous to state positively that these numbers don't include preorders, unless someone has gotten a clarification from Apple.
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post #96 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:26pm
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3 million... 4 million new iPads... sold in 3 days...

It doesn't really matter...

3 million anything is a whole shitload!

Apple has changed expectations so radically, people don't realize what an accomplishment even a few hundred thousand units would have been. I've posted this before, but this is the amount of time for each of these technologies to reach just 1 million sales units, according to Greystone Communications, Yankee Group (except for the iPad count, which came from other sources):

Original iPad: 28 days
DVD: 21 months
Satellite Radio: 23 months
CD Players: 28 months
MP3 Players: 28 months
Radio: 39 months
TV: 40 months
DVR: 53 months
VCR: 58 months
Online Subscriber Services: 114 months
Cable TV: 144 months
Satellite TV: 144 months

Apple now does in days what it took multiple companies years to accomplish.
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3/19/12 at 4:32pm
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But, but, but . . . Rob Enderle just said in a TV interview that Apple is abut to have a really terrible quarter, and THAT is the reason for the dividend and stock buy-back strategy announced today! Rob said so! It must be true! [Sarcasm]

I may be in the tank for Apple but it's cause I dig their products and they actually make what I do in real life less hectic and more organized. Enderle is pure shill.
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post #98 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:32pm
Apples official letter just says:

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CUPERTINO, California―March 19, 2012―Apple® today announced it has sold three million of its incredible new iPad®, since its launch on Friday, March 16th

Since Friday so that could be interpreted as meaning without preorders because it says

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since its launch on Friday, March 16th

Like was said above apple typically does not include preorders, they only include actual units that have been sold.
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post #99 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Notice how Apple boldly says "sold"?

Not some weasel-y word like "shipped"?

3 million sold on launch weekend - now that is smooth!

Edit: Just saw Dick's post, beat me to it!

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Yes... those were really smooth sales too!
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post #100 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:44pm
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Apple has changed expectations so radically, people don't realize what an accomplishment even a few hundred thousand units would have been. I've posted this before, but this is the amount of time for each of these technologies to reach just 1 million sales units, according to Greystone Communications, Yankee Group (except for the iPad count, which came from other sources):

Original iPad: 28 days
DVD: 21 months
Satellite Radio: 23 months
CD Players: 28 months
MP3 Players: 28 months
Radio: 39 months
TV: 40 months
DVR: 53 months
VCR: 58 months
Online Subscriber Services: 114 months
Cable TV: 144 months
Satellite TV: 144 months

Apple now does in days what it took multiple companies years to accomplish.

Looks like they did more than one million in the first day.

Q: Why does Kinect still hold the record for fastest selling CE? It sold 8 million in 60 days. The iPhone 4S beat that hands down with over 1/2 that total being sold in the weekend and the iPad selling 1/3 that total. Also, the Kinect is only at 18 million which is good for an accessory for an aging game console but it's certainly not as impressive as Apple's iDevice sales in the short term, long term, cost or profit per unit.

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3/19/12 at 4:46pm
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What an idiotic post, defining anyone who bought the new iPad as being 'fooled'. What specifically did Apple fool or lie to people about? I'll be waiting for that response. And contrary to your silly anecdotal 'evidence', pretty much every professional reviewer expressed complete awe and hyperbole at the display, so the fact hat you might be close to blind doesn't really say much about the product. The display is better than what Apple has stated, and is easily the best display I've ever seen. It impresses me each and every time I look at it. A random example from the verge editor, who's an Android fan and who's favorite phone is a Samsung Galaxy Nexus:



Here's some more: http://gizmodo.com/5893431/new-ipad-...hort-answeryes

But yeah, have fun waiting another year. Good job not being 'fooled'. You're clearly too clever for Apple's sneaky ways. While you're at it, stop mocking those that aren't blind. Makes you look stupid.

I think it's silly to upgrade from a iPad 2 to a new iPad 3 uh iPad. But at the end of the day it's just a toy. So if a new toy will bring happines in your life then so be it, buy one. However do not pretend one bit that you need a new one of course not the previous model is a more then capable tablet. You want one because of the hype.
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3/19/12 at 4:51pm
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I think it's silly to upgrade from a iPad 2 to a new iPad 3 uh iPad. But at the end of the day it's just a toy. So if a new toy will bring happines in your life then so be it, buy one. However do not pretend one bit that you need a new one of course not the previous model is a more then capable tablet. You want one because of the hype.

There are top many real world scenarios and productivity apps to mention that have made the iPad a valuable tool for many businesses. By saying it's "just a toy" you sund like a troll or woefully uninformed.

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3/19/12 at 4:57pm
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The ipad hype machine certain was in overdrive wasn't it and fooled a lot of folks into buying one. Not that I mind however my apple stock is doing really well.

I took my iPad2 and displayed some retina quality pics on it and compared it with my co-worker's brand spanking new iPad3 today.

Guess what I couldn't really see enough difference in the display to justify upgrading any time soon. The only feature missing is the microphone to dictate voice into text. We tried it out and it produced a lot of mistakes.

My take - if you own a iPad2 don't hold your breath, and now an iPad2 is $100 cheaper to compete with the "goggle" tablet when it comes out! (deliberate typo)

I think I'll wait another year for the next iPad with the A6 processor and Siri(hopefully)

Sarcasm? Must have been, but too many haters around here to take any chances.

Yup. That "hype" machine fools *everyone*, *every* quarter.

LOL.

Yeah, it *must* be hype. Anything at all to keep from admitting that, yes, ONE company CAN be THIS successful on product quality alone, every damn time.
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post #104 of 170
3/19/12 at 4:58pm
I sold about 1/3 of mine at $400. Now I feel like I'm playing with the houses money and will let it ride. I admit I'm a little bummed for selling too early.
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3/19/12 at 5:02pm
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Doomed! Beleaguered! Shut it down and return the money to the stockholders!1! They should have licensed OS X! Where's the X Mac?!?! Switching Windows box into Hackintosh!

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3/19/12 at 5:04pm
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Guess what I couldn't really see enough difference in the display to justify upgrading any time soon. The only feature missing is the microphone to dictate voice into text. We tried it out and it produced a lot of mistakes.

My take - if you own a iPad2 don't hold your breath, and now an iPad2 is $100 cheaper to compete with the "goggle" tablet when it comes out! (deliberate typo)

For most except the hard-core gadget fans (your DaHarders etc), there really isn't much need to upgrade every year, and Apple isn't targeting that market.
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3/19/12 at 5:14pm
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Doomed! Beleaguered! Shut it down and return the money to the stockholders!1! They should have licensed OS X! Where's the X Mac?!?! Switching to Windows!

You forgot to say "they would sell more if they put Android on them".

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The rest of the month includes all the folks that wanted to get a look at one in store before buying, people who figured they'd let the hysteria die down before bothering, and a big worldwide rollout in a bunch more countries. Any guesses on what sale will be by April? Or for the quarter?

Alls I know is that, after reading many posts saying there were no lines at the Apple Stores and plenty of stock, I went in to the Walnut Creek store today and bought one. Real easy.

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I am very happy with the new iPad numbers as a user and a shareholder.

As far as the dividend/buyback announcement -- I was hoping for at least a 10:1 split, too.

I wanted the split to set up some investment accounts for the grandkids -- $60 per share provides a lot more room to maneuver/experiment/fail/learn than $600 per share.

I love you man, but that is the investing equivalent of wanting an SD slot on the iPhone.
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3/19/12 at 5:15pm
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post #109 of 170
3/19/12 at 5:24pm
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That's funky. The screen is much better, and it's pretty obvious. It's hard to back to the 2 after having used the new one for a short while.

And dictation is very accurate as reported by just about everyone, as well as my own finding and that of my friends.

Something is wrong there.

I totally agree. The dictation is amazing. As is the screen is simply stunning (the 2 has already passed on my 13-yr old). And the speed.... wow.

I am having trouble believing the original poster.
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post #110 of 170
3/19/12 at 5:25pm
Where does it say 3 millions DIDNT include the pre-orders ?!? link please

What was the iPhone 4s first week-end sales again? 4 mil? if so the iPad numbers are huge, even if they include the pre-orders that were shipped during the week-end
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post #111 of 170
3/19/12 at 5:26pm
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I am pretty bullish but that's a bit extreme.

Would love to be proven wrong though.

That would be nice, that would mean I would retired by the end of the year.
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post #112 of 170
3/19/12 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

3 million anything is a whole shitload!

Yes, I believe that's the technical term.
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post #113 of 170
3/19/12 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by Paul94544 View Post

The ipad hype machine certain was in overdrive wasn't it and fooled a lot of folks into buying one. Not that I mind however my apple stock is doing really well.

I took my iPad2 and displayed some retina quality pics on it and compared it with my co-worker's brand spanking new iPad3 today.

Guess what I couldn't really see enough difference in the display to justify upgrading any time soon. The only feature missing is the microphone to dictate voice into text. We tried it out and it produced a lot of mistakes.

My take - if you own a iPad2 don't hold your breath, and now an iPad2 is $100 cheaper to compete with the "goggle" tablet when it comes out! (deliberate typo)

I think I'll wait another year for the next iPad with the A6 processor and Siri(hopefully)

For whatever reason the hype machine fooled my new iPad screen into being 4x the resolution of the old one.

A picture is probably where the difference will be least visible other than an OpenGL game where you have motion and edges that were already anti-aliased. Now text... well, I'm assuming you didn't actually try loading a page in iBooks/Kindle or Safari? Because that's not subtle and it's definitely not just hype.

On the other hand, if you couldn't see the difference there, take some profit on the stock and get your eyes checked.
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3/19/12 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post

Apple has changed expectations so radically, people don't realize what an accomplishment even a few hundred thousand units would have been. I've posted this before, but this is the amount of time for each of these technologies to reach just 1 million sales units, according to Greystone Communications, Yankee Group (except for the iPad count, which came from other sources):

Original iPad: 28 days
DVD: 21 months
Satellite Radio: 23 months
CD Players: 28 months
MP3 Players: 28 months
Radio: 39 months
TV: 40 months
DVR: 53 months
VCR: 58 months
Online Subscriber Services: 114 months
Cable TV: 144 months
Satellite TV: 144 months

Apple now does in days what it took multiple companies years to accomplish.

Amazing.

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post #115 of 170
3/19/12 at 5:31pm
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I love you man, but that is the investing equivalent of wanting an SD slot on the iPhone.

Ouch.
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post #116 of 170
3/19/12 at 5:33pm
The iPad 2 is sold out in the Montreal area. WTF is happening? Can you guys check in you're area please?
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3/19/12 at 5:48pm
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Damn!!! That's a lot of people for Samesung to make fun of!!!

Brilliant !! LOL!! 😂
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3/19/12 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

There are top many real world scenarios and productivity apps to mention that have made the iPad a valuable tool for many businesses. By saying it's "just a toy" you sund like a troll or woefully uninformed.

Not a troll I have one myself and I could easily live with out, so could most people who buy one. Sure, some companys and business people have found value in using it as a tool but that is a very, very small percentage. So ok, the iPad is mostly, hows that, is mostly a toy for those who buy one, especially for those on this board.
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3/19/12 at 6:00pm
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Not a troll I have one myself and I could easily live with out, so could most people who buy one. Sure, some companys and business people have found value in using it as a tool but that is a very, very small percentage. So ok, the iPad is mostly, hows that, is mostly a toy for those who buy one, especially for those on this board.

You have absolutely no basis for making these claims.
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3/19/12 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by jinjo235 View Post

Do those sales figures Apple releases include pre-sales, third-party retailer and online purchases or just Apple retail store purchases?

A number of sites are starting to report that the 3 million ONLY includes iPads sold at Apple retail. So the real number sold is presumably much higher.
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