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While most iPhone buyers make their purchase from their wireless carrier, Best Buy plays nearly as important a role in iPhone sales as Apple's own direct sales, according to a new survey.

Consumer Intelligence Research Partners surveyed American iPhone buyers from December 2011 to February 2012 to find out where they purchased their handset. It found that Apple's retail stores accounted for 11 percent of all U.S. iPhone sales, while the online store represented another 4 percent, according to All Things D.

Combined, Apple accounted for 15 percent of domestic iPhone sales, which was only two points better than Best Buy. The survey found that 13 percent of customers bought their iPhone from Best Buy.

Sales direct from carriers remain the most popular choice for customers, as AT&T represented 32 percent of sales and Verizon took 30 percent. Sprint, a smaller U.S. carrier that just began selling the iPhone last year, accounted for 7 percent of domestic iPhone sales.

The survey also found that customers prefer to buy their iPhone in person rather than online, with 76 percent of iPhone sales at retail stores and 24 percent on the Web. Online sales were slightly higher at 33 percent for the launch of the iPhone 4S last October,a number skewed because of preorders.




"Apple Stores and the Apple Web site are tremendously productive, but they are limited by their relatively small footprint," CIRP partner and co-founder Josh Lowitz said to AllThingsD. "There are four times as many best buy stores and probably 20 times as many AT&T, Verizon and Sprint stores, so aggressive distribution through all these channels is critical to Apple's U.S. strategy."

The survey also reveals that Apple's other retail partners do not play as significant a role in iPhone sales, as they collectively accounted for just 3 percent of sales among those surveyed. Apple's iPhone retail partners include Walmart, the largest chain in the U.S., as well as Target, Radio Shack, and Sam's Club.

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I'm not sure why this is a surprise.

As I would have expected, the majority of phones are sold through the carriers. For the retail sales, consider that Best Buy has 1250 stores (mostly in the US) while there are only about 250 Apple Stores in the U.S. So Apple stores sell 5 times as many phones per store.

Sounds about right.
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Of course survey results are only as good as the data collected. How many people did they actually talk to? Did they somehow not call people likely to use Walmart or Target?

And what is the margin of error for a survey like this?

Yes, the data is interesting, but is it accurate enough to be useful?
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Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

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Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

Because I would rather spend the extra 12 bucks and not have to deal with the hassle of contracting the plague by stepping into walmart.
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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

Because not everyone is driven purely by price.

You're going to spend well over $1,000 over the life of the phone. Saving $12 is insignificant - and I often spend more than that to avoid Walmart.
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Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

Because most people who buy apple products usually have more than 2 nickles to rub together. The reason the entire industry is upset with Apple because they are selling to the higher end customer with disposable income, leaving the rest of the industry selling to the people who have to shop at wal-mart and unless they get a phone free they would not own one.
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Too bad Best Buy doesn't have the most knowledgeable sales staff.
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When I bought my first iPhone (the 3GS), I wasn't sure that the Apple store was going to be able to do everything for me. I half expected I'd have to walk over to the AT&T store afterwards to finish my transaction. Perhaps people just aren't sure (or aware) that the Apple store can complete phone transactions.

I've made all of my purchases directly from the Apple Store, except for my 13" Air (2010), which I special ordered online for the extra RAM.
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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

I always buy my Apple products from an Apple store. They have the best service and support and down the line if I need after sales support I am guaranteed of excellent service.

Walmart is great when I am buying items less than $5 but anything else I prefer some other place.
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Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

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Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post

Because I would rather spend the extra 12 bucks and not have to deal with the hassle of contracting the plague by stepping into walmart.

Here is the thing about Walmart. Have you ever seen their in store display? All the other phones, tablets, while secured, are right there for you to touch. iPhone and iPad? Under glass. Then, the signage may say the most current (though not always) but the product doesn't match. It there is anything more than the stand under the glass. So presentation also plays a part.

I personally thing every store would like to see Apple gone. They have little to no say in price, etc. and they only carry the stuff because it is so popular they can't afford not to. They just hope while there you buy something else.

I got my iPhone 4 from Verizon (preorder) but plan to get my next (the new??) iPhone from Apple directly.
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Originally Posted by Bear View Post

Of course survey results are only as good as the data collected. How many people did they actually talk to? Did they somehow not call people likely to use Walmart or Target?

And what is the margin of error for a survey like this?

Yes, the data is interesting, but is it accurate enough to be useful?

Yes, it is hard to believe, so let's guess as to reasons why it must be false.

Maybe Best Buy is reporting how many units were shipped, instead of sold?

Maybe the survey had biased questions?
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

I'm not sure why this is a surprise.

As I would have expected, the majority of phones are sold through the carriers. For the retail sales, consider that Best Buy has 1250 stores (mostly in the US) while there are only about 250 Apple Stores in the U.S. So Apple stores sell 5 times as many phones per store.

Sounds about right.

Then the iPhone must literally sell itself. In my neck of the woods (near St. Louis) there are two Best Buy stores within 5 miles north and south. In both stores the Android displays are up front and in your face when you walk in the door. You actually have to go looking for the iPhone display. If you stand around and listen to the sales "associates" talking to people you wouldn't know the iPhone or iPad even existed. Same old same old for Best Buy in my neighborhood.
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I always buy my Apple products from an Apple store. They have the best service and support and down the line if I need after sales support I am guaranteed of excellent service.

When you buy from a big box, you often get lenient return and repair policies. YOu get an extra layer off customer service. You can always go to the Apple Store for service, but buying from a third party gives you extras you would not otherwise get. Best Buy, for example, has a coupon promo based upon your total purchases.
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As I would have expected, the majority of phones are sold through the carriers.

Most first time buyers believe you have to go to the carrier because they don't know that Apple or even Best Buy can activate the phone on your contract

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For the retail sales, consider that Best Buy has 1250 stores (mostly in the US) while there are only about 250 Apple Stores in the U.S. So Apple stores sell 5 times as many phones per store.

Sounds about right.


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Originally Posted by Bear View Post

Of course survey results are only as good as the data collected. How many people did they actually talk to? Did they somehow not call people likely to use Walmart or Target?

And what is the margin of error for a survey like this?

Yes, the data is interesting, but is it accurate enough to be useful?

I had similar thoughts.

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When you buy from a big box, you often get lenient return and repair policies.

Not always. Best Buy is the only outlet that might be authorized to service the iPhone. otherwise you must go to Apple. And the return policies are somewhat tied to your contract. Sure Best Buy or even Apple might let you return it 45 days later but they will do nothing in regards to any ETF etc from your carrier.

So while you are correct about other items, with phones of any brand it's not always the case that a Big Box is better

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Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

Walmart is disgusting.

I'd probably have to use $12 worth of disinfectant soap and shampoo to get clean after I've stepped foot in a Walmart.
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Not always. Best Buy is the only outlet that might be authorized to service the iPhone. otherwise you must go to Apple. And the return policies are somewhat tied to your contract. Sure Best Buy or even Apple might let you return it 45 days later but they will do nothing in regards to any ETF etc from your carrier.

So while you are correct about other items, with phones of any brand it's not always the case that a Big Box is better



Good info. Thanks.
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Then the iPhone must literally sell itself. In my neck of the woods (near St. Louis) there are two Best Buy stores within 5 miles north and south. In both stores the Android displays are up front and in your face when you walk in the door. You actually have to go looking for the iPhone display. If you stand around and listen to the sales "associates" talking to people you wouldn't know the iPhone or iPad even existed. Same old same old for Best Buy in my neighborhood.

Do they still do that? Last time I was in a BB I thought they had the iPhones up front.

But I do agree with the general sentiment; my surprise was the low percentage of phones sold direct by the carriers. With the 4S, they clearly had better and more accessible stock than the Apple Stores; I could walk in on Christmas Eve and buy one at an ATT store less than a mile away from an Apple Store.

I am curious though if the carrier stores include their "affiliate" resellers.
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Too bad Best Buy doesn't have the most knowledgeable sales staff.

That's an understatement. While it may be anecdotal, I recall a sales person instructing someone to purchase a new hard drive because their computer was infected with malware. They called it a virus, but I doubt these people would know the difference. Anyway I know it's Windows, but either way they're reinstalling. The only real reason you would zero out the drive is so that it can check for bad sectors, and I would do that with new drives too (and yes I do that on macs).


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Then the iPhone must literally sell itself. In my neck of the woods (near St. Louis) there are two Best Buy stores within 5 miles north and south. In both stores the Android displays are up front and in your face when you walk in the door. You actually have to go looking for the iPhone display. If you stand around and listen to the sales "associates" talking to people you wouldn't know the iPhone or iPad even existed. Same old same old for Best Buy in my neighborhood.

The retail margins might be better on those devices. I have no idea. The iphone is pretty iconic. With Android it's a collection. Not everyone would understand if you refer to a specific model or series within this collection.
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Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post

Walmart is disgusting.

I'd probably have to use $12 worth of disinfectant soap and shampoo to get clean after I've stepped foot in a Walmart.

Not to mention that I'd be burning at least that much in gas to get to the nearest Walmart store anyways.
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I'm surprised Apple's B&M and online stores are so low. I would have expected them to be the largest distributor.


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Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

I have nothing against Wal-Mart but an $11 savings isn't enough for me to park in the huge parking lot, walk to the back of the store, hope they have the model I want, and hope I can find someone to sell me the device in a reasonable amount of time. It just never occurs to me to shop there for non-accessory CE.

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Then the iPhone must literally sell itself. In my neck of the woods (near St. Louis) there are two Best Buy stores within 5 miles north and south. In both stores the Android displays are up front and in your face when you walk in the door. You actually have to go looking for the iPhone display. If you stand around and listen to the sales "associates" talking to people you wouldn't know the iPhone or iPad even existed. Same old same old for Best Buy in my neighborhood.

That's what it's like at my local Best Buy as well. 100 or so Android phones on display at the front of the store, plus a rack of Samsung tablets. Hard sell all the way. You could easily overlook that even sell the iPhone, although oddly they have a ton of iPhone accessories.

Reminiscent of the bad old PC days, when Best Buy would try to dissuade anyone trying to buy a Mac. Same reason, I would guess: PC and Android manufactures see Best Buy (and the carriers) as their "customer" and are willing to cut deals to get their wares front and center. Apple has never been much interested in that, which is why the had to go into retail themselves. Direct sales to their real customers, without a bunch of sketchy bullshit.
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Do they still do that? Last time I was in a BB I thought they had the iPhones up front.

It depends on the layout of the store. But most best buys have android advertised like crazy because best buy actually makes money off of the droid phones. The only money best buy makes on the iPhone is on accessories and the black tie protection.

Speaking of which, when the iPhone 4S came out for sprint, sprint didn't have an insurance plan for the iPhone because of their huge investment they made, so people went to best buy to buy it to get the protection plan. Crazy huh?
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Walmart it sells for $188. Why does everyone not buy it there?

no walmart in nyc
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I'm surprised Apple's B&M and online stores are so low. I would have expected them to be the largest distributor.

Not with AT&T and Verizon stores on every street corner.

AT&T alone has 9,000 stores according to one source:
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...5155222AAiiNSz

If that number is correct and Verizon has a similar number, then Apple is selling roughly 20 times as many phones per store as AT&T.
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Because most people who buy apple products usually have more than 2 nickles to rub together.

Aka- like to waste money? This is always a really dumb argument. All the other points the others made were valid- this one just reeks of arrogance and poor spending attitude. Your wealthiest people in the world always look at ways to save money- and getting it at walmart causes no less convenience or time- in fact- in most cases, there is a Walmart much more readily available than an apple store. But being a yuppy is half the fun for the $30k millionaire, right?

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Walmart is disgusting.

I'd probably have to use $12 worth of disinfectant soap and shampoo to get clean after I've stepped foot in a Walmart.

Lol- good point- although my walmarts are very new and "relatively" clean in my city (McKinney). I just like it because there is never a wait and they always have stock even on release day (as does target). I usually do target.

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Aka- like to waste money? This is always a really dumb argument. All the other points the others made were valid- this one just reeks of arrogance and poor spending attitude. Your wealthiest people in the world always look at ways to save money- and getting it at walmart causes no less convenience or time- in fact- in most cases, there is a Walmart much more readily available than an apple store. But being a yuppy is half the fun for the $30k millionaire, right?



Lol- good point- although my walmarts are very new and "relatively" clean in my city (McKinney). I just like it because there is never a wait and they always have stock even on release day (as does target). I usually do target.

For me the few cents extra I might pay at a Target is well worth it. I mean, Target isn't Saks 5th Avenue, or anything, but at least they have a modicum of design and style, and the lighting doesn't make you feel like it's some sort of detention center. Walmart is just so aggressively "here are mass quantities of cheap shit buy it pigs." Even Costco is preferable, for me, in that it feels like a big warehouse where the trucks just dropped stuff off and not so claustrophobically shitty.

I dunno how they manage to make such huge facilities feel claustrophobic. I think they put something in the ventilators to crush all hope, just so you'll shuffle around and buy stuff without any thought to what else you might be doing.
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