Originally Posted by SDW2001
17 year old Trayvon Martin was recently killed by an armed neighborhood watch Captain in a gated community. The shooter, George Zimmerman, is hispanic. Martin was black. Zimmerman claims self-defense as was not arrested. The boy was authorized to be in the neighborhood, but did not live there.
Since the shooting, racial tensions have been stoked by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Rallies have been held where people carry signs that read "You can't have capitalism without racism." In fact, the media initially didn't report Zimmerman was hispanic. Nationwide marches have been organized, with thousands demanding an "arrest and conviction" for Zimmerman.
It gets worse: Liberal radio and TV host Ed Schultz recently blamed the shooting on former Florida Governor Jeb Bush
because of Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law. MSNBC host Karen Finney blamed Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney
for the shooting. Jesse Jackson says "blacks are under attack.
" The New Black Panthers have offered a "Dead or Alive" reward for George Zimmerman.
But it gets even worse: The President of the United states recently chimed in.
He stoked the racial angle (despite the fact that there is little evidence to suggest race had anything to do with the shooting) by saying "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon Martin" and by calling for American "soul searching" on how the incident happened. He also indirectly joined the chorus of people blaming Jeb Bush, stating " And that means that examine the laws and the context for what happened, as well as the specifics of the incident."
Meanwhile, there is new information that Zimmerman may have been attacked by Martin
, which is why he was not arrested. Our President and his political allies are determined to stoke racial tensions for political gain. Perhaps Glenn Beck was right in predicting there will be riots and violence by summer.
As for me, my reaction to this is that it's tragic. There should and will be an investigation to determine the facts. Secondly, I am disgusted by any attempt to stoke racial hatred over this incident or use it for political gain.
You've framed the issue perfectly and have presented a profoundly well informed and supported post with multiple links and examples. Great job@
Originally Posted by hmurchison http://youtu.be/eGuctYqCDvo
I'm sorry but I hear clearly the "F*****n Coons) in the message.
I wanted to believe it wasn't about race but in fact it appears it played a significant
factor and lead to this teenager getting killed
Every comment under that video hears a number of things. At a minimum it is brown on black crime but per the race hustlers that SDW mentions, Zimmeran can't even be racist because racism is about power and he has none.
Originally Posted by Bergermeister
Watched Obama's comments. I heard empathy, something that is dearly lacking in the US right now.
I am also certain that with a little research a similar statement by a white POTUS wouldn't be that hard to find. Wonder if people would call a race card then?
Obama continually claims his children and family are off-limits but then uses them as the basis of appeals and as a motivation in driving public sentiment. He can't say don't talk about my daughters, but gee, when I think about birth control, I think about my girls. He can't say Trayvon would look like his son and thus he is automatically on the right side of this issue without having to take a position.
I'd argue his son could just as easily look like George Zimmerman. Malia has the same long face and features as Michelle and Barack but Sasha clearly takes her stouter frame and rounder face from some other aspects of their respective families.
Here is picture of George Zimmerman.
Here is a picture of Puerto Rican Obama Impersonator Louis Ortis.
Obama's son could just as easily look Hispanic, Puerto Rican or any other mix that ends up as mixed or light brown. Why does Obama's imaginary son not look like a murderer instead of a victim?
Originally Posted by sammi jo
Not true. Zimmerman is mixed Caucasian and hispanic. What you have said is the equivalent o "lets forget the hispanic part and call him white".... (btw, Obama is half Caucasian as well...)
Most people understand that by definition hispanic includes that mix in it because the mestizo mix that creates hispanic does not include any pure ethnic groups. It was a mix of Indian and Caucasian that created the groups we call hispanic today. Saying Hispanic and white is like saying white twice depending upon your definition and to whom you ask. I'm quite certain that in some of the circles you must run in Sammi there must be talk about how Hispanics are going to cut out African-Americans because they are now the largest ethnic group, and they are more "white".
He has a track record of violence. From the wikipedia entry: Zimmerman had a previous charge in 2005 of "resisting arrest with violence and battery on an officer" while interfering with the arrest of a friend. Zimmerman had previously been accused of domestic violence by an ex-fiancee (Veronica Zuazo), who had filed for a restraining order against him. Zimmerman counter-filed for a restraining order. A judge eventually ordered them both to stay away from each other for at least one year.
An arrest is not a conviction. Come on! You really claim solidarity with the communities you claim to represent and you are going to enforce the thinking that an arrest and conviction are the same thing?!?
He was visiting a relative who lived there. I guess he was committing the cardinal sin of "walking while black"....
George Zimmerman and Trayvon have the exact same skin tone. Are you seriously claiming that all those "one drop" racists would embrace George Zimmerman with open arms and that their thinking is his thinking?
The "capitalism without racism" does have a sound basis. Just look at how illegal immigration is policed in this country. Big agribusiness corporations and mega-farms reaps handsome profits from employing "undocumenteds", and do their corporate offices ever get raided by the INS and the Department of Homeland Security? Visit towns and villages throughout in Northern Mexico and you will see "come to the US" billboards paid for by these very companies. This is ONE example amongst probably thousands....
So I guess China is busy being racist and exploiting their own people. I suppose you are a racist posting on a racist forum because Apple has their products assembled in China.
And one more time, this time with feeling: Zimmerman is mixed white-hispanic.
Your term is nonsense. Hispanic is someone who is mixed already. Your term would be like someone saying Obama is mulatto and white.
Someone was killed. He was unarmed, and not committing, or about to commit a crime. And nobody has been charged. Is that justice?????
We have to ask the police that. Clearly with the amount of attention this has been getting, there have to be some factors that the media are not reporting and that the politicians exploiting are not mentioning. I know that I could not wander the neighborhood and shoot anyone and not have a massive investigation related to it.
Liberals are learning, finally. Frank Luntz is now being read by the left, just as Saul Alinsky has been digested by the right.
That is a hilarious statement.
As in, a 140 lb 17 year old kid going to visit a relative with a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea, searching for a house in an unfamiliar neighborhood, in the rain... and then he attacks an armed, uniformed 250lb security guard. Just for the hell of it? Try again, Fox News!
This is the story of his parents. Clearly these are not the only facts or else George Zimmerman wouldn't just be sitting there uncharged. We also haven't seen a picture of Trayvon that clearly wasn't taken when he was 17, all the pictures I've seen of his show him looking 13-14 years old and middle school aged. None of the photos show him his present height of 6'3". None of these stories appear to explain how a fat, clearly out of shape 5'9" George Zimmerman even manages to chase down a young man clearly in such good shape.
That doesn't mean George is right or Trayvon is wrong. It doesn't mean someone didn't do something wrong or that there might not an injustice to investigate. It does mean all the facts aren't out there and there is plenty to look into and explain. Calling for mob justice in the meantime or exploiting it politically is just wrong.
Politics is such a dirty game. Perhaps liberals are learning what conservatives have done to such great effect over the years.... Karl Rove was a master of the dirty tricks.
Yes George Zimmerman is just a good ol' boy. He is clearly benefiting from white privileged. He is clearly working a high paying job, one he is minimally qualified for or that pays disproportionate to services received because of who he is or what he happens to be. Clearly he has all the power and was wielding it over folks the same color or background as Trayvon.
Their families lived in the same neighborhood. They had the same types of challenges, problems and situations.
Originally Posted by tonton
Someone here is stoking racial tensions. As usual.
Yes, you are indeed.