Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Now I think you're trying to start an argument, because you're far from obtuse. So I'll probably stop responding to you (in this thread) after this post.
No, I wasn't trying to start an argument. You seem to have thought I said that all, or most of my apps were free. I was just correcting that impression. That's not argumentative.
You did not say how much. You did say you liked "free with ads" and I said I do not. So I think it's a reasonable assumption that you have proportionally more "free" than I do.
I don't know how you get from my liking some apps that have Ads, to the assumption that I would have a greater proportion of them.
What about the words "proportionally more" and "perhaps" (indeed, strung together) in my post don't you understand? Do I have to spell out for you that I: (i) could be wrong; (ii) am not referring to absolute numbers, but just 'proportions'? (I have about 300 apps, which is lower than your 400.)
By "support" I mean the amount of dollars I pay for them. What do you mean? Also, what did you think I meant?
I really didn't know what you meant. You might have thought it was clear, but it wasn't. Supporting developers could mean almost anything. Since it appears I have more apps in total, then I suppose that would mean that I support them more, if I understand your point there. Perhaps I support them more as I have a lot of paid apps, perhaps more than you do. Perhaps I support them more if I have more unpaid apps. What do you think?
First of all, if you have a question, ask it; don't "imply" it. This medium does not always lend itself well to nuance as a face-to-face conversation with say, voice inflection and gestures might.
Now you're being unnecessarily rude. If someone gives an argument, they can reasonably expect a detailed reply. Not everything must be asked as a question.
I did not
say ad-supported apps have little value to me. What I said was, I do not like the intrusiveness of many ad-supported apps -- the trade-off between what they offer and having to put up with silly pop-ups and notifications is just not worth it, for me (and I am not you). There is almost nothing out there that's free that I like that I couldn't get a paid analog for (either from the same developer or someone else). I am quite happy to pay, given the very nominal sums involved.
Also, where did I say I "...don't look at them to see"? I often download free, but tend to delete them if they have ads and pop-ups (latest example: Calculator Pro for iPad Free -- great product, but totally intrusive so I deleted it; you can download it yourself to see what I mean). Also, I have downloaded hundreds of free apps as of this point, so I think I have a reasonably good empirical sense of what's out there and what the trade-offs are.[/QUOTE]
Sorry. When I read this, I assumed it to mean that you were so against them that you never looked at them to see if they contained anything useful to you
Originally Posted by asdasd
90% of devs can piss off? Excluding Apple which obviously has access to the UDID?
I do not use a single app that has ads. It's intrusive and irritating on a mobile phone, and when on wireless, the user pays to see them. A lot of them are crap anyway.
If someone can't give us an honest-to-goodness free app, yes, they can piss off.