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Mike Daisey apologizes for his exaggerations and falsehoods involving Apple in China

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Following an exposé that dismantled the accuracy of his claims regarding workers' conditions among the manufacturers in China Apple uses to build its products, performer Mike Daisey has offered a new, broader apology.

Writing on the subject of getting the facts right when telling stories, Daisey acknowledged in his blog, "I fell short in The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs."

Daisy added, "when I said onstage that I had personally experienced things I in fact did not, I failed to honor the contract I’d established with my audiences over many years and many shows. In doing so, I not only violated their trust, I also made worse art."

He concluded, "I am sorry for where I have failed. I will look closer, be more patient, and listen more clearly. I will be humble before the work."

While Daisey specifically apologized to the audiences he lied to, apologized to "my colleagues in the theater, especially those who work in non-fiction and documentary fields," apologized to "journalists I gave interviews to in which I exaggerated my own experiences … Things came out of my mouth that just weren’t true, and over time, I couldn’t even hear the difference myself," and apologized to "human rights advocates and those who have been doing the hard work of bringing attention to these kinds of labor issues for years," he didn't offer any apologies to the actual target of his lies and exaggerations.




No apologies for smearing Apple

Beyond the plausible-sounding events Daisey falsely claimed to observe as an eyewitness, he also stated to various media sources that Apple, and the company's then chief executive Steve Jobs, were fully aware of the events but refused to take any action because they didn't care about what was going on in China.

In the context of his false story about meeting many workers who were 12 to 14 years old, Daisey rhetorically asked "Do you really think Apple doesn’t know? In a company obsessed with the details, with the aluminum being milled just so, with the glass being fitted perfectly into the case, do you really think it’s credible that they don’t know?"

Daisey's monologue has played for over a year, creating and pushing momentum behind a story that was picked up by a wide variety of media outlets, despite Apple's efforts to transparently and accurately report was what actually occurring in China, and detailing what actions it was taking to stop problems it discovered in its regular audits dating back to 2006.

Dramatic apology almost as phony as the show

It was only over the past two weeks that his story began to unravel, when radio show "This American Life" retracted its episode on Apple after investigating Daisey's claims.

When the translator Daisey had worked with to obtain reports of child employees, workers crippled by hexane, and threatening armed security guards was identified by investigators, she testified that the stories Daisey told were fictional fabrications.

Right up until his work was outed as a series of exaggerations and lies, Daisey continued to insist that his play was factually accurate and based on his real world observations, complaining to skeptical critic Brian Ford, "You insulted my art form and my work, at length, without knowing what it is, proud of how ignorant you are, and your sneering and contempt say a lot more about your worth than I ever could. You insulted my integrity, and in a better world we should settle this in an alley outside a bar of your choice the next time I'm in Kansas City."

Despite his apologies to audiences, the theater, journalists and human rights workers, Daisey is still unapologetically selling tickets to his show.

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Pants on fire?
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Sorry for the harshness of this post, but I think Apple and Tim Cook should sue the living crap out of this blowhard moron to make sure such lies and distortions are never "free" for someone like him ever again. Punch him in the pocketbook hard and mercilessly. He'll think twice next time before baselessly defaming someone who cannot answer back.
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Originally Posted by VinitaBoy View Post

Sorry for the harshness of this post, but I think Apple and Tim Cook should sue the living crap out of this blowhard moron to make sure such lies and distortions are never "free" for someone like him ever again. Punch him in the pocketbook hard and mercilessly. He'll think twice next time before baselessly defaming someone who cannot answer back.

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Fatass SOB should be relegated to cleaning urinals in theaters.

Art? What he does is not art, it's BS of the worst smelling kind. These kind of actions should not be tolerated by any business or society.
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post #5 of 63
Bite me little Miss Daisey. I hope either Apple or Foxconn makes an example out of you so other jerks like you can't claim theatrics and try to pass it off as fact.
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Sure, he's sorry now that he's been exposed as a fraud.

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My favorite part:

I will look closer, be more patient, and listen more clearly.

Like any of the above would keep him from lying.
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Originally Posted by VinitaBoy View Post

Sorry for the harshness of this post, but I think Apple and Tim Cook should sue the living crap out of this blowhard moron to make sure such lies and distortions are never "free" for someone like him ever again. Punch him in the pocketbook hard and mercilessly. He'll think twice next time before baselessly defaming someone who cannot answer back.

Couldn't agree more. Apple should ask he be fined in the form of community service or donate the monies to a charity. He definitely should be made an example of. Quite honestly, I feel shabby journalism such as HeatGate from Consumer Report, now shown to be the same as Androids doing the same task, is just as bad. It's in the same vein. It's all about using Apple's hard won fame as a way for these cretins to get attention.
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[Apple was] fully aware of the events but refused to take any action because they didn't care about what was going on in China. [...]
"in a better world we should settle this in an alley outside a bar of your choice the next time I'm in Kansas City."

Pathetic. He's only sorry he got caught.
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I would like to see Apple sue him for defamation just on the principle of it, but it might not be very smart PR.
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Sheesh, some of you people need to chill out. The guy lied, he should be held accountable. If there is a legal recourse for this it should be taken. Enough with the slurs against him directly. Call him a liar, call him unethical, call him a jerk, but don't go further than that. You make yourselves look like bigots. You know who you are...
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The tone of the replies thus far makes the Apple community look petty, reactionary, and tone deaf. Yelling about his weight does nothing to prove your point, and makes you look like a sad, pedantic troll. Drop the ad hominem bullshit. Address the issue of dishonesty, move on, stop acting like sad little children.
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So...if I were to tell a million+ people that Daisey is a disease carrying, incestuous, baby molester and that he eats whale turds...I could say it was artistic license?!

Oh, sorry! My bad. Only some of what I said might be embellished.

Gotta love a loop-hole, but not this a**hole.
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Was the guy ever in China at all? and if so just who exactly were the 12 to 14 year old "workers" that he allegedly spent so much time with?
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"... You insulted my integrity, and in a better world we should settle this in an alley outside a bar of your choice the next time I'm in Kansas City."

I'm your huckleberry
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The tone of the replies thus far makes the Apple community look petty, reactionary, and tone deaf. Yelling about his weight does nothing to prove your point, and makes you look like a sad, pedantic troll. Drop the ad hominem bullshit. Address the issue of dishonesty, move on, stop acting like sad little children.

Did they hurt your feelings, tubby?
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Lying fat pig
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I hope Apple's lawyers kick him in the iBalls.
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I would like to see Apple sue him for defamation just on the principle of it, but it might not be very smart PR.

That's exactly why I suggested Apple make a point of asking any award be donated to a worthy charity, teaching ethics to journalists maybe?
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People still believe himand still boycott Apple as a result. His show is still billed as fact, and the made-up incidents still move people.

Those people (who I have met in fact) then go on to buy Chinese-made electronics from some other company instead. A company that doesnt do nearly what Apple does to improve these issues.

Nice work.

And none of the press coverage on this situation EVER seems to mention that these are NOT Apple problems (even the ones that are real) but problems of ALL companies manufacturing in China. Everyone but Apple still gets off the hook. And no comparison is made between Apple and other companies.

So even people who DO understand that Daisey lied still think Apple is worse than other Chinese-sourced goods.
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How is it that people still pay good money to go see this buffoon? How good can a one-man show on the supposed malicious nature of Apple and Steve Jobs actually be? I just don't get it. If people would stop going to drivel like this, the man would be a nobody.
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Did they hurt your feelings, tubby?


lol delicious !
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This Waltzing Daisey should undertake a hundred day fast to cleans his soul and show his sincerity, in full public view at some park where honest observers can cast sour fruit and scornful laughter. Well, maybe not the fruit. That would be too tempting and shorten the show.

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I believe his apology is just another of his infamous attempt at extending his fame. The more we bark, the better his PR becomes. Ignore him and his fame and PR will vanish.
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The tone of the replies thus far makes the Apple community look petty, reactionary, and tone deaf. Yelling about his weight does nothing to prove your point, and makes you look like a sad, pedantic troll. Drop the ad hominem bullshit. Address the issue of dishonesty, move on, stop acting like sad little children.

I hear you. Sometimes all it takes is for one or two people to be dicks and the crowd mentality kicks in.
I actually am concerned with all the overweight problems we have in the U.S. but I'm often more concerned with the asshole problem we have.
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People still believe himand still boycott Apple as a result. His show is still billed as fact, and the made-up incidents still move people.

Those people (who I have met in fact) then go on to buy Chinese-made electronics from some other company instead. A company that doesnt do nearly what Apple does to improve these issues.

Nice work.

And none of the press coverage on this situation EVER seems to mention that these are NOT Apple problems (even the ones that are real) but problems of ALL companies manufacturing in China. Everyone but Apple still gets off the hook. And no comparison is made between Apple and other companies.

So even people who DO understand that Daisey lied still think Apple is worse than other Chinese-sourced goods.

Makes me think of the AMazing Randi - http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

he got start debunking frauds many years ago - and despite showing a religious-fraud's congregation exactly how they were being fooled by the guy - instead of thanking Randi - they ran Randi out of town - and the fraud is (or at least was then) still in business.

I realize the paranormal is unrelated - but Randi setup a $1 million dollar challenge for anyone who could demonstrate irrefutable paranormal abilities under scientifically controlled conditions - when I first heard about it not a single person had come forward to attempt to claim the prize - the website has lots of folks who have since applied - and the back and forth negations of the testing conditions - I have not read all of them - but so far the ones I have read had all concluded with the application being withdrawn without any test ever being conducted.

if memory serves - my favorite quote from Randi is along the lines of - "if he really is bending that spoon with his mind he should call me because I can show him a much easier way"
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Originally Posted by VinitaBoy View Post

Sorry for the harshness of this post, but I think Apple and Tim Cook should sue the living crap out of this blowhard moron to make sure such lies and distortions are never "free" for someone like him ever again. Punch him in the pocketbook hard and mercilessly. He'll think twice next time before baselessly defaming someone who cannot answer back.

Why give him the attention. It's what he feeds off like any troll.

Better to put out a call to arms for folks to boycott all shows at any theatre that books him. Cut off the snakes head by making it cost the theatres to support him

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Why give him the attention. It's what he feeds off like any troll.

Better to put out a call to arms for folks to boycott all shows at any theatre that books him. Cut off the snakes head by making it cost the theatres to support him

That's exactly right. He's happy to be getting any and all media exposure he can right now, his livelihood is dependent on exposure. Let's try to make sure his exposure is as negative as possible so people stop going to his stupid "artistic" shows. He does not deserve to be making money off this. What a jerk.
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Despite his apologies to audiences, the theater, journalists and human rights workers, Daisey is still unapologetically selling tickets to his show.

It's been known for quite some time that it's not necessary to be truthful to draw an audience. Just look at faux news.
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Originally Posted by landanger

The tone of the replies thus far makes the Apple community look petty, reactionary, and tone deaf. Yelling about his weight does nothing to prove your point, and makes you look like a sad, pedantic troll. Drop the ad hominem bullshit. Address the issue of dishonesty, move on, stop acting like sad little children.

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I hear you. Sometimes all it takes is for one or two people to be dicks and the crowd mentality kicks in.
I actually am concerned with all the overweight problems we have in the U.S. but I'm often more concerned with the asshole problem we have.

At the time of his post, Doctor, I was the only one that said anything about weight when I called him a Fatass SOB

What worries me here in the US is the "how dare you" mentality we have developed over the past couple of decades. Facts are facts and when those are suppressed, just like the person we are all commenting on no good comes of it.

I stick by my personal assessment of the photograph provided. His mother may not have deserved my criticism - but I doubt that was your point.
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Not surprisingly, it appears Daisey's off-Broadway show has been yanked. (hooray)

http://www.publictheater.org/

http://www.publictheater.org/images/...sstatement.pdf
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Sheesh, some of you people need to chill out. The guy lied, he should be held accountable. If there is a legal recourse for this it should be taken. Enough with the slurs against him directly. Call him a liar, call him unethical, call him a jerk, but don't go further than that. You make yourselves look like bigots. You know who you are...

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The tone of the replies thus far makes the Apple community look petty, reactionary, and tone deaf. Yelling about his weight does nothing to prove your point, and makes you look like a sad, pedantic troll. Drop the ad hominem bullshit. Address the issue of dishonesty, move on, stop acting like sad little children.

If all it takes for evil men to succeed is for good men to stand by idle, then what kind of fool would go even further to defend them?

And here is no lie or embellishment: The guy is actually fat.

So all descriptions that refer to him this way are, unlike Mike Daisy, factually correct.
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post #33 of 63
Mr Daisey, you don't need to eat any humble pie; try a special diet of rational objectivity and facts.
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Not surprisingly, it appears Daisey's off-Broadway show has been yanked. (hooray)

http://www.publictheater.org/

http://www.publictheater.org/images/...sstatement.pdf

Has the run actually been cancelled? The public statement from the theater director offers apologies, but the main page doesn't seem to have any information, beyond still listing it in their "current season" lineup. Is it possible that it simply finished its run?
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post #35 of 63
Daisey's lying sucked in a bunch of tree-huggers that demonstrated around the USA at Apple stores hepped up on his lies. He needs to spend a year in "the Big House" where he can find out first hand how bad things can be. It's fitting justice then that no one would believe him if Bubba makes him a wife.
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My favorite part:

I will look closer, be more patient, and listen more clearly.

Like any of the above would keep him from lying.

Maybe got an offer he couldn't refuse from Apple Legal.
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He does look like a younger vserion of Limbaugh doesn't he

That about sums this douchebag up eh... Just imagine some woman finds this guy attractive ughhh...

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At the time of his post, Doctor, I was the only one that said anything about weight when I called him a Fatass SOB

What worries me here in the US is the "how dare you" mentality we have developed over the past couple of decades. Facts are facts and when those are suppressed, just like the person we are all commenting on no good comes of it.

I stick by my personal assessment of the photograph provided. His mother may not have deserved my criticism - but I doubt that was your point.

I'm all for facts. The guy has a weight problem. But I don't think we should be dicks about it even though he lied through his teeth about something. He used lies to bully people into seeing his show, and the bully is often the last to know they are the bully. I don't think we should return the bully favor. Take the higher ground.
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I'm all for facts. The guy has a weight problem. But I don't think we should be dicks about it even though he lied through his teeth about something. He used lies to bully people into seeing his show, and the bully is often the last to know they are the bully. I don't think we should return the bully favor. Take the higher ground.

Good Point!! But he is rather rotund isn't he.
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post #40 of 63
This lying fk has been charging $70 and $80 dollars a ticket to his one man show. He in fact is the one who has been exploiting Chinese workers! Regardless of his weight, he is a sensationalist, a profiteer, and a disgusting human being.
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