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Google's Larry Page thinks Steve Jobs's hatred of Android was 'for show'

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Google co-founder and Chief Executive Larry Page doesn't think Steve Jobs was really that upset by the Android platform. Instead, he feels Jobs demonstrated ire "for show" to rally his employees at Apple.

The revelation comes from a new interview that Page did with Bloomberg Businessweek, in which he downplayed the rivalry between Apple and Google. Jobs's ire was publicized in Walter Isaacson's biography of him, in which the Apple co-founder called Android a "stolen product" that he was willing to "go thermonuclear war" to stop.

But Page said in the interview published on Wednesday that he believes Jobs's statements to Isaacson, as well as his comments to Apple employees, were "actually for show."

"I think that served their interests," Page said. "For a lot of companies, it's useful for them to feel like they have an obvious competitor and to rally around that. I personally believe it's better to shoot higher. You don't want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what's possible and how to make the world better."

Page also discussed how he met with Jobs before he died. He said the former Apple CEO invited him via e-mail, and the two had a "very nice talk."

"I took it as an honor that he wanted to spend some time with me," Page said. "I figured he wanted to spend time with his family at that point. He had a lot of interesting insights about how to run a company and that was pretty much what we discussed."


Google Chief Executive and co-founder Larry Page.


When he spoke with Isaacson, Jobs vowed to "destroy" Android, and said he would spend every penny Apple had in the bank "to right this wrong." He believed Google stole ideas from Apple's iPhone and implemented them into the Android operating system, which is now found on more than half of smartphones used in the U.S.

Page became CEO of Google last April, replacing Eric Schmidt, who took on a new position as executive chairman. Page's co-founder Sergey Brin also took a more active role in strategic projects including product development.

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post #2 of 136
Or maybe he saw through your 'Don't be evil' BS.

Maybe?
post #3 of 136
Larry Page out does Steve Jobs in one thing: arrogance. And, at least Jobs had the chops to back it up while, at the same time, not being dishonest with his customers.
post #4 of 136
Don't flatter yourself. You stole his idea and now you are trying to rewrite history.
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"I personally believe it's better to shoot higher. You don't want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what's possible and how to make the world better."

Highlighting is mine.
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Don't flatter yourself. You stole his idea and now you are trying to rewrite history.

It wasn't Steve Jobs idea, I hope you realize.
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Or maybe he saw through your 'Don't be evil' BS.

Maybe?

Page spinning it again like a true thief. Steve jobs meant it, let us hope they go thermonuclear on them .
post #8 of 136
Yes, Job's was a showman, but Apple had invested 4-5 years of work, innovation, and bet the company on the iPhone [recall how everyone panned it before it was released, after it was released, etc.] and it was a huge gamble. It paid off for Apple.

To have Google scrap off the work that Apple did and repackage it for free as public property drove Jobs and yes Apple employees nuts.

The simple fact was this was breath taking risk that transformed an industry and Google copied and marketed on this Apple effort.

I've heard the prior art story, but bottom line is this would not have happened without Apple and Jobs/Apple invested a lot of time supporting [and yes leveraging Google] in the Android competes with MS and RIM and legitimately felt betrayed.

It was clearly personal not "just business."
post #9 of 136
What is Larry thinking? He connived, lied and stole info whilst sitting as a respected member on Apple's board. Steve, whom many claim was an AH*, trusted Larry. Larry is the example of why Steve may have stepped on toes.
Larry is a jerk and he has a baby face that turns the stomach.
And I mean this in the kindest sense, except the stomach part.
* and may have been at times.

(Thanks to SpanSandwich for his correction to my error on Larry & Apple board below.)

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"I personally believe it's better to shoot higher. You don't want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what's possible and how to make the world better."

Highlighting is mine.

Damn, you beat me to it. I wonder if he made that statement with a straight face? The funny thing is, Larry probably believes what he's saying.
post #11 of 136
cough (bullshit)
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i can see some hyperbole being used by steve jobs to rally apple employees but with isaacson?

why would someone who knows he's going to die very soon put on a show for his biographer and biography readers? that's like having something chiseled into his gravestone about google. why would jobs waste his legacy's focus on a show for google?

google is big but compared to jobs' legacy and apple they're just a blip on the tech radar.
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Page also discussed how he met with Jobs before he died. He said the former Apple CEO invited him via e-mail, and the two had a "very nice talk."

"I didn't want Steve's advice. He wanted to talk to me." Yeah, right, Larry !! Can you show us that email, please?
post #14 of 136
Is it me or does Larry look like a rat?
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this is from a company that invented web searching, and then produced several half-baked products...and then stole all the rest...

sounds like complete and utter bullshit...

android is still a stolen product, and a complete piece of shit...
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"I personally believe it's better to shoot higher. You don't want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what's possible and how to make the world better."

Highlighting is mine.

Loved that. Google+ is this guy's baby. This is literally the guy whose bet the Google farm on Google+ and canned tonnes of genuinely innovative Google ideas to make way for Plus's ahem, success.

This is almost too funny.

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post #17 of 136
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Damn, you beat me to it. I wonder if he made that statement with a straight face? The funny thing is, Larry probably believes what he's saying.

I quite honestly think he does as well. Self delusion is a bitch...

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"I think that served their interests," Page said. "For a lot of companies, it's useful for them to feel like they have an obvious competitor and to rally around that. I personally believe it's better to shoot higher. You don't want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what's possible and how to make the world better."

Eric Schmidt also wants to make the world better. He is also an excellent notetaker having exceled in his skills during apple board meetings. His Orwellian views on privacy are also enabling this world to become a better place:
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If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place

As an aside, a recent headline in the uk rag the daily mail run:
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Google chief Eric Schmidt publically backs wife despite divorce rumours and claims of having three mistresses

He shouldn't have done it in the first place.
post #18 of 136
Put the reefer down, Larry, and let your brain catch up...
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post #19 of 136
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What is Larry thinking? He connived, lied and stole info whilst sitting as a respected member on Apple's board. Steve, whom many claim was an AH*, trusted Larry. Larry is the example of why Steve may have stepped on toes.
Larry is a jerk.
And I mean this in the kindest sense.
* and may have been at times.

Not sure if you're aware of this, but Larry was never on Apple's board of directors... Eric Schmidt was. \

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post #20 of 136
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"I personally believe it's better to shoot higher. You don't want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what's possible and how to make the world better."

Google doesn't look at their competitors, they lean over and sneak glances.
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What is Larry thinking? He connived, lied and stole info whilst sitting as a respected member on Apple's board. Steve, whom many claim was an AH*, trusted Larry. Larry is the example of why Steve may have stepped on toes.
Larry is a jerk.
And I mean this in the kindest sense.
* and may have been at times.

Larry was on Apple's Board??? Are you thinking of Eric Schmidt?
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Eric Schmidt also wants to make the world better. He is also an excellent notetaker having exceled in his skills during apple board meetings. His Orwellian views on privacy are also enabling this world to become a better place:

Where 'better' is defined as 'more money and power for Google'.
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post #23 of 136
"I was honored at all the time Steve spent with me. When I screwed him over later, I'm pretty sure he liked it."

I *think* that's what I just read. I also think I'm not buying it.
post #24 of 136
This horse tooth jackass better shut up.

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post #25 of 136
How about what Larry just said "is for show" just to discourage Apple employees and encourage Android supporters? I think saying that would serve the Android community well.
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Not sure if you're aware of this, but Larry was never on Apple's board of directors... Eric Schmidt was. \

Emotions can run rampant and forestall the research. I like it when I am corrected, especially in old fashion standards. But I still don't like his baby face. The teeth, now it is not nice to pick on birth defects. Well, maybe its ok when the guy has the moolah to visit a dentist and save our tender stomachs.

cheers also to digitalclips,
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this is from a company that invented web searching, and then produced several half-baked products...and then stole all the rest...

sounds like complete and utter bullshit...

android is still a stolen product, and a complete piece of shit...

Just for the record, Yahoo had a search engine of its own, prior to Google. Then in 2000, it started using the Google engine. Google didn't invent search, they just did a very good implementation of it, which later became the de facto standard.
post #28 of 136
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Larry. You jackass.
post #29 of 136
Nasty underbite.
post #30 of 136
Nice f****** try Larry

I can't wait to hear Larry explain the Motorola performance in upcoming earnings calls. This purchase is probably the worst business decision I have seen in the last 10 yrs. He obviously did not take Steve's last advice

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This horse tooth jackass better shut up.


My horse is very insulted with this insensitive comparison.

Now we need a picture of Larry'ss behind to affirm your point.

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post #32 of 136
Uh no, Larry.

He WAS pissed. You're lucky he's no longer around. Your company would be mired 5x deeper in litigation than it already is.

Please tell us what part of Android isn't STOLEN. You know, a little sneak preview before the courts drop the hammer (in due course.)
post #33 of 136
I personally wouldnt trust anyone that goes by the name of Larry.

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post #34 of 136
This is amazing that companies like Google stole others ideas and then claiming themselves as a hero. Shame on you Larry.
post #35 of 136
Fixed: "Yeah, that wedgie Steve gave me and Eric was just for show. Too bad Eric didn't wipe beforehand though."

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This horse tooth jackass better shut up.

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post #36 of 136
Are the law suits pretend, too?
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Are the law suits pretend, too?

you mean the lawsuits against the manufacturers of end products? with their own skins and the like?

When is the lawsuit against google going to occur?
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post #38 of 136
Considering Apple's legal costs, it is an expensive show.
post #39 of 136
Yes, but most of the lawsuits are directly at the third party manufacturers use of Android. Further, Apple still relies heavily on Google for Search and other services. So, Apple wouldn't sue Google until it could easily cut the cord. Moreover, Google is about to inherit Apple's lawsuits with Motorola.

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you mean the lawsuits against the manufacturers of end products? with their own skins and the like?

When is the lawsuit against google going to occur?
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Or maybe he saw through your 'Don't be evil' BS.

Maybe?

Yeah, Steve was not really a man of subtlety.
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