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I already sold it. Purchased for 34K and change and sold for $28K and change two years and a few months later. I did OK IMO.

But I thought you were originally complaining about Hyundai's quality and not resale value. Did you change the focus because BMW has lower reliability ratings than Hyundai?

EDIT: A check today still shows the resale value as $22-23K. Not bad for a 5 year old gas-guzzling 3-row SUV.

Show me the evidence--people can always claim, hehe! BTW, resale value is directly proportional to reliability--since WHY would you buy a lemon?

PS--it should be I HAD, NOT I have, IF you really sold it already

"I have, a 2008 VeraCruz and had no quality complaints or reliability issues. Excellent value for the money IMHO. I feel it compared very favorably, quality-wise, with my wife's previous car, an Infiniti FX45 tho not near as fun to drive."--Gatorguy
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I don't remember any breakdown being done in that manner. So neither of us know the reality of the situation.

But the best-selling Android phones are reported to be the high-end ones.

Just because the best selling individual phones might be high-end models does not mean that most Android phones sold are high-end models. Your logic is seriously flawed.

People think Apple users are the ones living in the reality distortion field. Android fans who think that 850,000 high-end phones are being sold a day are the ones who need a reality check.

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Show me the evidence--people can always claim, hehe! BTW, resale value is directly proportional to reliability--since WHY would you buy a lemon?

PS--it should be I HAD, NOT I have, IF you really sold it already

"I have, a 2008 VeraCruz and had no quality complaints or reliability issues. Excellent value for the money IMHO. I feel it compared very favorably, quality-wise, with my wife's previous car, an Infiniti FX45 tho not near as fun to drive."--Gatorguy

No sir, I worded it quite properly. I said "Have you owned one? I have (owned one), (COMMA) and had (past tense) no quality complaints. . ."

Just read more carefully.
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BTW, have you driven a BMW before--you don't know FUN until you drive a BMW--it makes you feel like you are James Bond

Yeah, like the guy with the M3 at the track with us last weekend who wrote off his car. Set off all the airbags and crunched all corners of his car.

He thought his car handled "like it was on rails". Doesn't mean it can defy the laws of physics.

BTW, I have nothing against BMW's. In fact, I'm a huge German car fan.

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No sir, I worded it quite properly. I said "Have you owned one? I have, (COMMA) and had (past tense) no quality complaints. . ."

Just read more carefully.

Unfortunately I do NOT know you, and can't rely totally on your post--IF you show me the check I will believe you
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Yeah, like the guy with the M3 at the track with us last weekend who wrote off his car. Set off all the airbags and crunched all corners of his car.

He thought his car handled "like it was on rails". Doesn't mean it can defy the laws of physics.

BTW, I have nothing against BMW's. In fact, I'm a huge German car fan.

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Unfortunately I do NOT know you, and can't rely totally on your post--IF you show me the check I will believe you

Of course you don't want to believe me, which wouldn't change the industry studies and surveys that found Hyundai with a better quality ranking than BMW. Without anything from the industry that disputes it (you don't have anything do you?), there's no need to continue a discussion about personal experiences that's strayed far off the original thread topic
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Of course you don't want to believe me, which wouldn't change the industry studies and surveys that found Hyundai with a better quality ranking than BMW.

LOL! Then EXPLAIN to me the dramatically LOW scores Kia/Hyundai get as the car gets older--as I said those disposable cars have NO resale value because they do NOT last--they go straight to the junk yard--and don't post saying you SOLD your Kia because I will NOT believe you--show me the check!

As for BMW go get its reliability ratings UNDER Luxury cars!

BTW--Veracruz resale value is rated BELOW average compared to other brands of the same class!
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post #129 of 226
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LOL! Then EXPLAIN to me the dramatically LOW scores Kia/Hyundai get as the car gets older--as I said those disposable cars have NO resale value because they do NOT last--they go straight to the junk yard--and don't post saying you SOLD your Kia because I will NOT believe you--show me the check!

As for BMW go get its reliability ratings UNDER Luxury cars!

Give me your name and address and we'll get together to compare notes. I don't believe you're a real adult and own two BMW's
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post #130 of 226
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Give me your name and address and we'll get together to compare notes.

No, I will not give you my information! I assess people based on their tastes and choice of products: high quality versus low, long-term versus disposable, expensive versus cheap! I already have the 2008 Hyundai resale rating anyway--BELOW average (proves MY point) so why deal with someone like you, LOL! I am and I do!
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No, I will not give you my information! I assess people based on their tastes and choice of products: high quality versus low, long-term versus disposable, expensive versus cheap! I already have the 2008 Hyundai resale rating anyway--BELOW average, so why deal with someone like you, LOL!

Thank you for clarifying. You've changed to discussing resale value rather than better quality or reliability, the part you were initially mistaken about.

Now perhaps everyone can get back to the original topic.
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Thank you for clarifying. You've changed to discussing resale value rather than better quality or reliability, the part you were initially mistaken about.

Now perhaps everyone can get back to the original topic.

AGAIN, AGAIN!


Then EXPLAIN to me the dramatically LOW reliability scores Kia/Hyundai get as the car gets older--as I said those disposable cars have NO resale value because they do NOT last--lemons that go straight to the junk yard--and don't post saying you SOLD your Kia because I will NOT believe you--show me the check!

As for BMW go get its reliability ratings UNDER Luxury cars!

BTW--Veracruz resale value is rated BELOW average compared to other brands of the same class!
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post #133 of 226
Then simply post a link that shows BMW with better overall reliability or quality ratings than Hyundai. Otherwise all your personal experiences with the brand are just that. . . personal.

I've no doubt the other readers are already tired of this and ready to get back on topic.
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Then simply post a link that shows BMW with better overall reliability or quality ratings than Hyundai. Otherwise all your personal experiences with the brand are just that. . . personal.

I've no doubt the other readers are already tired of this and ready to get back on topic.

LOL--the 2 are NOT even on the SAME level! It's like comparing Apple and Samsung, an iOS and an Android---hilarious and totally PREPOSTEROUS!
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post #135 of 226
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Components Apple paid for, not components they stole.

PS: Samsung phones are filled with components they don't make.

No, you can steal cpu's and flash chips, but you can't steal ideas. This is precisely why the patent system in this country is so screwed up.
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That's your opinion.

The alternatives are junk and it shows in the end product.

Samsung's R&D also already covered by Apple, so Samsung can absorb zero percent margin as they deservingly should.

LOL! what? Samsung's Galaxy R&D is already covered by Apple?

Are you saying Apple with all its magnomity is paying Samsung to develop its own Galaxy lines to avoid anti-trust?

man, you fanbois logic is ..
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Samsung margin: abount 10%.
Apple margin: about 50%.

Apple products are great, but OVERPRICED!!!

Well, actually Samsung Semi's margin is around 15%; Appliance & Media's margin is razor-thin; while LCD's is sometimes I think in the negative terrotory. I think Samsung Mobile's porfit was also around 15% last quarter. So the net aggregate for the entire company, I think, was around 8 or 9% as of last quarter.

I'm guessing that Samsung's mobile's revenue and profit now account for at least 35% or 40% of the entire company (Samsung Electronics). Also compare that to iPhones' share of Apple's revenue : 70%.
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Most of these profits come from the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Note. I don't see how these are iPhone copies.

no need to pay any attention to the fanbois.. in their eyes, everything is Apple copycat
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Just because the best selling individual phones might be high-end models does not mean that most Android phones sold are high-end models. Your logic is seriously flawed.

People think Apple users are the ones living in the reality distortion field. Android fans who think that 850,000 high-end phones are being sold a day are the ones who need a reality check.



I never said that most Android phones are high-end models. In fact, I said that I have never seen Android sales broken down by model, that you have not either, and that you have no idea of the proportions.

I mean REALLY.
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I assess people based on their tastes and choice of products

I once bought an iPod. What is your assessment of me?
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The Android OEM that copies Apple SHAMELESSLY - LOL right down to the very packaging, is also the one enjoying the most success. Shocker!

Samsung's CEO should get down on hands and knees, like a good little follower, and thank Apple for June 2007 and January 2010. Two dates which defined the industry's roadmap for the next decade.
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That's your opinion.

The alternatives are junk and it shows in the end product.

Samsung's R&D also already covered by Apple, so Samsung can absorb zero percent margin as they deservingly should.

Game, set, match.....
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And why would you want to? Samsung is Apple's bitch. Apple and others engineer the components and then Samsung assembles them. Your argument is akin to calling the MS Xbox a Foxconn Xbox because MS outsources the assembly of their products.

Bottom line: Neither Samsung nor Apple make OR design all the components in their systems.

another hilarious comment. Sure, if Samsung is Foxconn, Apple is Wal-Mart.

Apple can't engineer jack - Apple's acquisition of Next, anobit & PA semi notwithstanding. Again, you need to remember that Apple is a glorified marketing company. Wheter you like it or not, it's becoming quite apparent that Apple has to depend more on Samsung for manufacturing and technology. Apple's new iPad for instance is about 50% Samsung. In the longer run, consumers are going to see that there is little or no difference between Samsung's smartphones marketed under its namesake or Apple's iPhones whose components are mainly made with components by Samsung. Say what you will about Apple's ecosystem, etc, etc. BS, 70% of Apple's revenue now comes from iPhone hardware sales.

Also remember, Apple, Samsung's #2 client, accounts for only 5% or so of all Samsung Electronics revenue, but Samsung is Apple's largest supplier by far ($7B last year and $11B this year), plausibly accounting for 15% to 20%. This isn't necessarily by choice - there is really no other supplier big, technical, or reliable enough to meet Apple's need. Even if Apple pumps in many billions into upgrading and building new fabs, Apple probably can't replace Samsung in foreseeable future. Contrary to your asinine comment, building fabs isn't anything like running an assembly plant at Foxconn with unskilled Chinese workers.
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Otherwise all your personal experiences with the brand are just that. . . personal.


It's "personal", until it actually echoes the factual:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...-satisfaction/

http://9to5mac.com/2012/04/02/change...ff-the-charts/

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/08/...-satisfaction/


REALITY.

Apple is at the top of these surveys and ratings, year after year.
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It's "personal", until it actually echoes the factual:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...-satisfaction/

http://9to5mac.com/2012/04/02/change...ff-the-charts/

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/08/...-satisfaction/


REALITY.

Apple is at the top of these surveys and ratings, year after year.

What do any of those have to do with my comment? Yours is somewhat on-topic while mine was still being pulled away by the same truck towing the BMW, far off the road.
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I once bought an iPod. What is your assessment of me?

when it comes to tastes---it's either you are a Bill Gates or a Steve Jobs!
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Ahhh...the dribbling idiot or brilliant genius assessment! Tricky!

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when it comes to tastes---it's either you are a Bill Gates or a Steve Jobs!
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Superb, yes we know and thank you very much...



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wrote off?

The damage caused to the vehicle is greater than the value of the vehicle, hence it would be written off by insurance.

That is, if he had insurance. Since he was racing on a track, insurance doesn't cover the damage. So he's out whatever the car is worth simply for being arrogant about both his andhis vehicle's capabilities.

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I never said that most Android phones are high-end models. In fact, I said that I have never seen Android sales broken down by model, that you have not either, and that you have no idea of the proportions.

I mean REALLY.

Like all your trolling you are very subtle about what you say. You stated Android is "killing" iOS but never want to talk about whether or not their market share is based up of devices that actually compete with iOS or not. Again, a very poor attempt at trolling.

Since BMW's were brought up, do you think BMW cares how many cars Toyota sells? Not in the least since a Corolla, Prius or Camry are never going to compete with, or steal sales from BMW. However, BMW would be very interested in how many cars Lexus sells (Toyota division) as they do compete with a lot of BMW models.

Android is like Toyota. They make lots of devices from dirt cheap to high-end. Apple only makes high end. To say Android is "killing" iOS is stupid since Apple could care less about cheap devices that have no impact on their business model.

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another hilarious comment. Sure, if Samsung is Foxconn, Apple is Wal-Mart.

Apple can't engineer jack - Apple's acquisition of Next, anobit & PA semi notwithstanding. Again, you need to remember that Apple is a glorified marketing company. Wheter you like it or not, it's becoming quite apparent that Apple has to depend more on Samsung for manufacturing and technology. Apple's new iPad for instance is about 50% Samsung. In the longer run, consumers are going to see that there is little or no difference between Samsung's smartphones marketed under its namesake or Apple's iPhones whose components are mainly made with components by Samsung. Say what you will about Apple's ecosystem, etc, etc. BS, 70% of Apple's revenue now comes from iPhone hardware sales.

Also remember, Apple, Samsung's #2 client, accounts for only 5% or so of all Samsung Electronics revenue, but Samsung is Apple's largest supplier by far ($7B last year and $11B this year), plausibly accounting for 15% to 20%. This isn't necessarily by choice - there is really no other supplier big, technical, or reliable enough to meet Apple's need. Even if Apple pumps in many billions into upgrading and building new fabs, Apple probably can't replace Samsung in foreseeable future. Contrary to your asinine comment, building fabs isn't anything like running an assembly plant at Foxconn with unskilled Chinese workers.

Another person who knows nothing about how products are designed.

Apple employs several thousand engineers in fields such as electrical, mechanical, LCD, software, antenna design, CPU architecture, chip design and so on. They develop products in-house and have capabilities to manufacture their own devices. Once they've finalized a design, they get someone like Foxconn to mass produce their products. Foxconn is nothing more than an assembler and have nothing to do with the design of Apple products.

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...you need to remember that Apple is a glorified marketing company. Wheter you like it or not, it's becoming quite apparent that Apple has to depend more on Samsung for manufacturing and technology. Apple's new iPad for instance is about 50% Samsung.

Well said!

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The damage caused to the vehicle is greater than the value of the vehicle, hence it would be written off by insurance.

That is, if he had insurance. Since he was racing on a track, insurance doesn't cover the damage. So he's out whatever the car is worth simply for being arrogant about both his andhis vehicle's capabilities.


More of a driver's ERROR than any fault from his car! Talking about reckless stupidity, even if he drives a Ferrari--same thing will happen...he needs to change his bad driving attitude!
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Samsung makes some pretty fantastic products, their flat screen TVs are awesome, my Galaxy Note & Galaxy 7.7" are simply stunning products. I agree that their continued support after the fact simply sucks. It is now April and I have yet to receive a Android 4.03 upgrade for either my Note or tablet. I have to fend for myself by using custom roms. I don't mind doing this as I am a professional programmer and I am damn good at it but normal customers have no option but to wait.

This is something that needs to change now. Though I do have to say their customer service is above average. When I flashed my Note with a bad rom I bricked it badly. I thought I was screwed but Samsung replaced it no questions asked and the turn around was less then 6 days.

It's good to see company's other then Apple making money but let's hire some more programmers OK Samsung, like a lot more. It's been 6 months since Android 4 was released, wake up.
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another hilarious comment. Sure, if Samsung is Foxconn, Apple is Wal-Mart.

Apple can't engineer jack - Apple's acquisition of Next, anobit & PA semi notwithstanding. Again, you need to remember that Apple is a glorified marketing company. Wheter you like it or not, it's becoming quite apparent that Apple has to depend more on Samsung for manufacturing and technology. Apple's new iPad for instance is about 50% Samsung. In the longer run, consumers are going to see that there is little or no difference between Samsung's smartphones marketed under its namesake or Apple's iPhones whose components are mainly made with components by Samsung. Say what you will about Apple's ecosystem, etc, etc. BS, 70% of Apple's revenue now comes from iPhone hardware sales.

Also remember, Apple, Samsung's #2 client, accounts for only 5% or so of all Samsung Electronics revenue, but Samsung is Apple's largest supplier by far ($7B last year and $11B this year), plausibly accounting for 15% to 20%. This isn't necessarily by choice - there is really no other supplier big, technical, or reliable enough to meet Apple's need. Even if Apple pumps in many billions into upgrading and building new fabs, Apple probably can't replace Samsung in foreseeable future. Contrary to your asinine comment, building fabs isn't anything like running an assembly plant at Foxconn with unskilled Chinese workers.

Never mind... I can see where this is going to go and I couldn't be bothered.
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Samsung makes some pretty fantastic products, their flat screen TVs are awesome, my Galaxy Note & Galaxy 7.7" are simply stunning products. I agree that their continued support after the fact simply sucks. It is now April and I have yet to receive a Android 4.03 upgrade for either my Note or tablet. I have to fend for myself by using custom roms. I don't mind doing this as I am a professional programmer and I am damn good at it but normal customers have no option but to wait.

This is something that needs to change now. Though I do have to say their customer service is above average. When I flashed my Note with a bad rom I bricked it badly. I thought I was screwed but Samsung replaced it no questions asked and the turn around was less then 6 days.

It's good to see company's other then Apple making money but let's hire some more programmers OK Samsung, like a lot more. It's been 6 months since Android 4 was released, wake up.

Normal customers buy an iPhone.
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No, I will not give you my information! I assess people based on their tastes and choice of products: high quality versus low, long-term versus disposable, expensive versus cheap! I already have the 2008 Hyundai resale rating anyway--BELOW average (proves MY point) so why deal with someone like you, LOL! I am and I do!

That is funny. I have a friend who is quite wealthy, drives a piece of crap too work, wears basic clothes, nothing fancy but if he ran into you, you would judge him as inferior, yet I am sure he is far wealthier than you and more successful. Sad method of judgement, for an adult.
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Ha! I see that the haters and the trolls are particularly bored on this Good Friday. :roll eyes:

Isn't life too short to be so concerned about stuff you don't care about? But I guess some people just get off on needling others who don't think like they do for the sake of it or to kill time. Whatever turns you on...

Thought maybe there'd be an interesting discussion going on when I saw the post count for this thread but it's just the same ole trolls who have nothing better to do as usual... I'll just move on...
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Ha! I see that the haters and the trolls are particularly bored on this Good Friday. :roll eyes:

Isn't life too short to be so concerned about stuff you don't care about? But I guess some people just get off on needling others who don't think like they do for the sake of it or to kill time. Whatever turns you on...

Thought maybe there'd be an interesting discussion going on when I saw the post count for this thread but it's just the same ole trolls who have nothing better to do as usual... I'll just move on...

Until there is at least a moderate amount of moderation on AI there won't be any interesting discussions.
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Open your iPad our iPhone. Contains Samsung chips. Buy windows phone

There is no need to open your iPhone, the screen is already made by Samsung.
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That is funny. I have a friend who is quite wealthy, drives a piece of crap too work, wears basic clothes, nothing fancy but if he ran into you, you would judge him as inferior, yet I am sure he is far wealthier than you and more successful. Sad method of judgement, for an adult.

Assessment includes different aspects as in tastes, character, attitude, personality, behaviour, etc. He definitely is a Mr. Scrooge with inferior tastes like Gates, LOL!

BTW, you can be poor and yet have impeccable tastes, or you can be filthy rich and have Bill Gates' tastes--it's really either you have it OR you don't!
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