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post #161 of 226
4/6/12 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by MJ4Ev3r View Post

Assessment includes different aspects as in tastes, character, attitude, personality, behaviour, etc. He definitely is a Mr. Scrooge with inferior tastes like Gates, LOL!

BTW, you can be poor and yet have impeccable tastes, or you can be filthy rich and have Bill Gates' tastes--it's really either you have it OR you don't!

Taste's are subjective so too judge someone based on what you think is good taste is foolish and ignorant. If someone chooses to drive a $5k car to work because it is practical does not make them inferior but since you would consider the car poor taste you would judge them as such. I drive 02' Honda accord to work, it is great on gas, my 2010 SRT8 sits in the garage. So to you, by me driving an 02' Honda Accord, I am inferior. To others, my 02' Honda Accord is practical and they may consider me smart and practical. If I am driving my '10, some will call me flamboyant and inconsiderate of the environment. Bottom line, if you instantly judge someone based on their material things you will lose and are a poor judge of character, character which has zero to do with material possessions. Hell I give more credit to someone with a paid off 02 Honda Accord than I would to someone driving a 2012 Ferrari and up to their neck in debt. Since you are here I will assume you are a Steve Jobs worshiper. That fool wore jeans and black turtlenecks, if you did not know who he was and saw him on the street how would you judge him?
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post #162 of 226
4/6/12 at 2:48pm
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I could ask you the same question about your Hyundai comments. Have you owned one? I have, a 2008 VeraCruz and had no quality complaints or reliability issues. Excellent value for the money IMHO. I feel it compared very favorably, quality-wise, with my wife's previous car, an Infiniti FX45 tho not near as fun to drive.

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Of course you don't want to believe me, which wouldn't change the industry studies and surveys that found Hyundai with a better quality ranking than BMW. Without anything from the industry that disputes it (you don't have anything do you?), there's no need to continue a discussion about personal experiences that's strayed far off the original thread topic

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Thank you for clarifying. You've changed to discussing resale value rather than better quality or reliability, the part you were initially mistaken about.

I'd just like to congratulate Gatorguy on previously purchasing a 'quality' vehicle that has been recalled five out of past the six years:

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ve...&client=safari

http://www.hyundailemonlawhelp.com/

http://www.motortrend.com/used_cars/...acruz/recalls/

http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/...i_veracruz.htm

http://www.cars.com/hyundai/veracruz/2007/recalls/

Yes, folks. That's his definition of quality.

Thanks for setting us straight on where you stand.

And don't worry. I'm sure all those rational arguments provided by him against Apple are still absolutely spot on.

He obviously has an eye for these things, you know.

I'd also like to thank him for providing us all with our never to be underestimated, extremely important daily dose of laughter by referring to the lack of quality in German cars.

His knowledge on patent law is obviously only exceeded by his knowledge of automobiles.

Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and Volkswagen would like to thank him for bringing to their attention the obvious quality control problems they are known and renowned for.

Thanks Gatorguy!

You are a true champion!
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post #163 of 226
4/6/12 at 2:51pm
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Normal customers buy an iPhone.

Actually I've been recommending the Nokia 800 more & more lately to those who aren't the most technologically savvy. It can now be bought for 420 CHF vs the 750 CHF the iPhone commands. Plus the OS is the very intuitive and the easiest to operate I have seen in a long time not to mention beautiful. It's a very attractive phone and everyone has an iPhone today so why not stand out a little. It also comes in 5 different colors, pretty neat. All of people I know who want iPhone's anyway are now waiting for Apple to come out with a larger screened model and an updated system both of which I hope will be out this year.

My Sister was actually here in the hospital today to visit me and she asked me which phone she should get to replace her iPhone 4 as the screen is cracked. After 20 minutes of her playing with my phone I'm happy to report she's going to pick up a Galaxy Note in the morning. Which makes that number 14, the number of people I have now converted from an iPhone to a Galaxy Note and not one of them miss their iPhones.

It's funny to, they are all girls. Is the Galaxy Note a women's phone, I hereby now claim it to be. Seriously though we all love that huge screen to show off pictures of our kids and using it with long fingernails is much easier not to mention we have a stylus.
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post #164 of 226
4/6/12 at 2:52pm
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I'd just like to congratulate Gatorguy on previously purchasing a 'quality' vehicle that has been recalled five out of past the six years:

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ve...&client=safari

http://www.hyundailemonlawhelp.com/

http://www.motortrend.com/used_cars/...acruz/recalls/

http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/...i_veracruz.htm

http://www.cars.com/hyundai/veracruz/2007/recalls/

Yes, folks. That's his definition of quality.

Thanks for setting us straight on where you stand.

And don't worry. I'm sure all those rational arguments provided by him against Apple are still absolutely spot on.

He obviously has an eye for these things, you know.

I'd also like to thank him for providing us all with our never to be underestimated, extremely important daily dose of laughter by referring to the lack of quality in German cars.

His knowledge on patent law is obviously only exceeded by his knowledge of automobiles.

Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and Volkswagen would like to thank him for bringing to their attention the obvious quality control problems they are known and renowned for.

Thanks Gatorguy!

You are a true champion!

Oh jeez, back to the BMW's again. . .

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post #165 of 226
4/6/12 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

Oh jeez, back to the BMW's again. . .

I believe the subject matter of that post was the intensely laser-like accuracy of your judgement, not BMW specifically.

However, I understand your willingness not to refer to your earlier statements.

I wouldn't be too anxious to 'recall' them either.
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post #166 of 226
4/6/12 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by GTR View Post

I'd just like to congratulate Gatorguy on previously purchasing a 'quality' vehicle that has been recalled five out of past the six years:

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ve...&client=safari

http://www.hyundailemonlawhelp.com/

http://www.motortrend.com/used_cars/...acruz/recalls/

http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/...i_veracruz.htm

http://www.cars.com/hyundai/veracruz/2007/recalls/

Yes, folks. That's his definition of quality.

Thanks for setting us straight on where you stand.

And don't worry. I'm sure all those rational arguments provided by him against Apple are still absolutely spot on.

He obviously has an eye for these things, you know.

I'd also like to thank him for providing us all with our never to be underestimated, extremely important daily dose of laughter by referring to the lack of quality in German cars.

His knowledge on patent law is obviously only exceeded by his knowledge of automobiles.

Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and Volkswagen would like to thank him for bringing to their attention the obvious quality control problems they are known and renowned for.

Thanks Gatorguy!

You are a true champion!

But it's cheap - so it MUST be a great value.

BTW, in case you haven't realized it yet, I wouldn't believe anything that gatorguy says.

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That is funny. I have a friend who is quite wealthy, drives a piece of crap too work, wears basic clothes, nothing fancy but if he ran into you, you would judge him as inferior, yet I am sure he is far wealthier than you and more successful. Sad method of judgement, for an adult.

I know a guy who was worth about $5 billion before he retired (that's right - with a 'b'). He drove a 15 year old Ford and hadn't bought a new suit for a decade.
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post #167 of 226
4/6/12 at 3:17pm
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Normal customers buy an iPhone.

Less than a third of them do. The vast majority buy an Android phone.
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post #168 of 226
4/6/12 at 3:24pm
Toyota Camry recalls every year. So what's your point?

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_re...mry/index.html

http://www.mycarstats.com/reports/to...y/recalls.aspx
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post #169 of 226
4/6/12 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

But it's cheap - so it MUST be a great value.

BTW, in case you haven't realized it yet, I wouldn't believe anything that gatorguy says.

It's good I always have backup when I make claims then.


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I know a guy who was worth about $5 billion before he retired (that's right - with a 'b'). He drove a 15 year old Ford and hadn't bought a new suit for a decade.

That would be evidence he considered his 15 year old Ford a good value.

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post #170 of 226
4/6/12 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by Hellacool View Post

Taste's are subjective so too judge someone based on what you think is good taste is foolish and ignorant. If someone chooses to drive a $5k car to work because it is practical does not make them inferior but since you would consider the car poor taste you would judge them as such. I drive 02' Honda accord to work, it is great on gas, my 2010 SRT8 sits in the garage. So to you, by me driving an 02' Honda Accord, I am inferior. To others, my 02' Honda Accord is practical and they may consider me smart and practical. If I am driving my '10, some will call me flamboyant and inconsiderate of the environment. Bottom line, if you instantly judge someone based on their material things you will lose and are a poor judge of character, character which has zero to do with material possessions. Hell I give more credit to someone with a paid off 02 Honda Accord than I would to someone driving a 2012 Ferrari and up to their neck in debt. Since you are here I will assume you are a Steve Jobs worshiper. That fool wore jeans and black turtlenecks, if you did not know who he was and saw him on the street how would you judge him?

AGAIN...AGAIN... I don't judge, I just assess As I mentioned--you can be poor and still have impeccable tastes, on the other hand, you can be filthy rich and have NO tastes! Iam talking about TASTES and NOT personality, character, behaviour, brain waves...whatever
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post #171 of 226
4/6/12 at 4:17pm
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It's good I always have backup when I make claims then.




That would be evidence he considered his 15 year old Ford a good value.

Would you stop derailing the threads, maybe you need a coupon site or a Hyundai dealership so you can get a fucking value.
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post #172 of 226
4/6/12 at 4:32pm
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Less than a third of them do. The vast majority buy an Android phone.

And what can we conclude from that?

More people buy Android phones... so that means __________ ?

I'm just trying to figure out if you're simply excited about the bigger number... or if there is some greater meaning...
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post #173 of 226
4/6/12 at 4:43pm
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Would you stop derailing the threads, maybe you need a coupon site or a Hyundai dealership so you can get a fucking value.

You're barking up the wrong tree. I tried to get the thread on track two dozen posts ago with post 128. Then again with post 132. Then again with post 134.

Inexplicably GTR and Jragosta thought it best to derail it again 25 posts later.

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post #174 of 226
4/6/12 at 5:05pm
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Less than a third of them do. The vast majority buy an Android phone.

Normal people buy iPhones.
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post #175 of 226
4/6/12 at 5:19pm
We now resume to our normal scheduled programming...
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4/6/12 at 5:25pm
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We now resume to our normal scheduled programming...

Sorry... what was it we were watching?
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post #177 of 226
4/6/12 at 5:30pm
I don't remember.

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Sorry... what was it we were watching?
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post #178 of 226
4/6/12 at 5:39pm
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I don't remember.

I seem to recall something about watching the slow (or not so slow) implosion of Android vendors...
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post #179 of 226
4/6/12 at 6:03pm
Ah, zombie flick then? It's hard to remember with all this talk about make believe sales and delusions of grandeur.

Oh wait. There is one Samsung branded product that would be an instant hit if they made it, and guaranteed to convert even the most diehard amongst diehards. Heck, even I would buy it.

Toilet paper.



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I seem to recall something about watching the slow (or not so slow) implosion of Android vendors...
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post #180 of 226
4/6/12 at 6:29pm
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It's good I always have backup when I make claims then.




That would be evidence he considered his 15 year old Ford a good value.

More like sentimental value to me, lol!
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4/6/12 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by fuwafuwa View Post

Apple paid Samsung to produce the components. Samsung is just one of the slaves that happened to produce many of iPhone's components.


As Samsung produces most of the component, and sell higher than Apple, don't you think Samsung margin on smart phone is bigger?

Nonesense..
Samsung's R&D produced the high-end technology that goes into wonderful gadgets like the iPhone.

The quality of iphone's components is there because of Samsung.

You think Samsung = Foxconn... you're a fool.

Samsung isn't great at product designs, I'll give you that but there are some unique exceptions like
Galaxy Note.

You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but

their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.

They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?
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4/6/12 at 6:57pm
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More of a driver's ERROR than any fault from his car! Talking about reckless stupidity, even if he drives a Ferrari--same thing will happen...he needs to change his bad driving attitude!

I already stated it was driver error.

However, my experience with racing and seeing which type of drivers wreck cars its usually the guys in the M3's or similar cars. Vehicles that are very highly rated in their class that people buy simply because the M3 always wins the performance sedan shootouts in the magazines. This causes these people to be more likely to over extend their abilities simply because they have a false sense of how superior their car is.

It's the same with SUV drivers who seem to think they can drive normal speeds on snowy or icy roads since their SUV is more "capable" than the average car.

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4/6/12 at 7:06pm
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You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but

their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.

They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?

This was all explained a few pages back. How can you say their prices are "hefty" when their most popular products (iPhone and iPad) are priced similarly to other competing products on the market?

It's not Apple's fault that they are far more efficient at making products than everybody else is.

You better believe they care about customers. If you treat your customers like $hit then you will soon find your customers going to your competitors. Treating your customers well and providing them with products they like is what put all that $$$ in Apple's pockets in the first place.

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4/6/12 at 7:08pm
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You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.

If it's too expensive, don't buy it.

Go grab yourself a great value Samsung Hyundai.

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They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?

Yep. I most definitely think they do.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20...-for-8th-year/

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/a...ce-again/14890

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/a...-grim-reading/

http://allthingsd.com/20110920/apple...-survey-again/

Bring up the Samsung equivalent of THAT.
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4/6/12 at 7:29pm
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Taste's are subjective so too judge someone based on what you think is good taste is foolish and ignorant.

here's a poor guy who donated his kidneys to buy an iphone and an iPad--unreal, BUT at least he has impeccable tastes


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...usaolp00000003
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post #186 of 226
4/6/12 at 10:32pm
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The Android OEM that copies Apple SHAMELESSLY - LOL right down to the very packaging, is also the one enjoying the most success. Shocker!

Samsung's CEO should get down on hands and knees, like a good little follower, and thank Apple for June 2007 and January 2010. Two dates which defined the industry's roadmap for the next decade.

Those are just assertions made by the plaintiff. Trial has yet to officially start or the final verdict has been announced.

Until then, all of those are your opinions. And we all know what happens to opinions...

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4/6/12 at 10:35pm
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SEE how the scores of Kia and Hyundai went down dramatically as the cars get older--they are just good for a maximum 5 years, and then they go straight to the junk yard, whereas a BMW/Toyota can run forever for their great engines and engineering--AND that explains WHY--Korean products have NO RESALE VALUE!

Right...


http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...dex-16518.html

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133962293.html


Seems like the purpose of most of your posts are to create mis-information.

What is your agenda?

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4/6/12 at 10:38pm
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Right...


http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...dex-16518.html

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133962293.html


RESIDUAL value is NOT equal to RESALE VALUE! Wait after 5 years, and see how much that cost!

BTW...those are PR from Hyundai...LOL!

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4/6/12 at 10:43pm
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RESIDUAL value is NOT equal to RESALE VALUE! Wait after 5 years, and see how much that cost!

BTW...those are PR from Hyundai...LOL!

TRUTH hurts...BUT it cures!

Perhaps some reading comprehension is in store for you.

READ.


Hyundai isnt the organization who creates these values. It's a third party who creates it and reports in their publication. Hyundai is just reporting through their communications channels. I expected better from you. I guess I was wrong.

By the way, Beamer drivers are all posers. They cant drive for crap and they never use turn signals. Lazy bums who would rather die than lift a finger to indicate their intent to others.

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4/6/12 at 10:44pm
JD Power Says Hyundai First in Customer Retention 2012

http://wot.motortrend.com/jd-power-s...ig-157447.html
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4/6/12 at 10:46pm
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How are those PR from Hyundai, it's from ALG the industry leader in residual value determination.

Here's another one for you.

JD Power Says Hyundai First in Customer Retention 2012

http://wot.motortrend.com/jd-power-s...ig-157447.html

I know, Hyundai paid bribes to JD Power right?

I said WAIT after 5 years and see its BELOW AVERAGE RESALE VALUE---AGAIN, AGAIN--RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT RESALE VALUE...ARE YOU DENSE?
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4/6/12 at 10:49pm
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I said WAIT after 5 years and see its BELOW AVERAGE RESALE VALUE---AGAIN, AGAIN--RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT RESALE VALUE...ARE YOU DENSE?

You seem to be so assured of your predictions.

People and companies change. With the forward momentum of Hyundai and the changing times, it seems like it is leaving behind your old way of thinking in the 1990's. Just to remind you, its the year 2012.

I've heard countless critics who boasted that "Hyundai will never make it in the US" or "Hyundai will never break 500,000 sales in the US". Both predictions were slashed to bits. I'm afraid yours is next.

Plus, Hyundai just recently announced that they had the lowest incentive spending in the industry of less than $1000. Also, their fleets sales have dipped down below 10% in recent months.

Also, here is another treat to your "resale/residual value" bashing.

http://www.prlog.org/11468415-hyunda...-or-honda.html

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4/6/12 at 10:54pm
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I said WAIT after 5 years and see its BELOW AVERAGE RESALE VALUE---AGAIN, AGAIN--RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT RESALE VALUE...ARE YOU DENSE?

You seem to suffer from serious reading deficiency, the article I linked has nothing to do with residual or resale value.
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4/6/12 at 11:09pm
Here's one with the Best Resale Value Award

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133957448.html
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4/7/12 at 7:01am
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JD Power Says Hyundai First in Customer Retention 2012

http://wot.motortrend.com/jd-power-s...ig-157447.html

Customer retention is not really a very helpful statistic.

Let's say you're in the market for a $40,000 car. You have a lot of options to choose from - and even a lot of comparable options. If I want a good quality, comfortable, mid-sized sedan for $40,000, I have a dozen or more choices.

OTOH, if you 'only' have $60 K to spend and want a full blown luxury vehicle, the Equus may be your only choice. Even on the low end, Hyundai vehicles are generally priced considerably lower than most of the competition. So 'high customer retention' may simply mean 'our customers are consistently looking for a cheap car and we don't have as much competition in that space'.

That's not to say that Hyundai vehicles are bad. They certainly seem to offer decent value in the markets where they compete. But you can't really use customer retention as evidence of that.
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post #196 of 226
4/7/12 at 7:41am
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i love samsung products, i have their tv & bluray player, they make great panels, apple uses them, they cant come up with ideas to save themselves tho
i woundnt get a phone off them, people on here are freakin weird, hating on a company, they are a big company that isnt just in the phone/tablet market & everything else they do is pretty damn good, they should leave phones tablets & laptops for apple tho

I have a 3 year old samsung 42 inch tv. What a POS. It crashes and has to be turned off and back on almost every time you switch channels. NO SHIT! the sound goes out constantly and the interface is a fucking joke. Never samesung again
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4/7/12 at 9:20am
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Here's one with the Best Resale Value Award

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133957448.html

Yeah and the SOURCE is Hyundai America--PR AGAIN!

Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!
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4/7/12 at 11:03am
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Yeah and the SOURCE is Hyundai America--PR AGAIN!

You might want to work on your reading comprehension. The source is /PRNewswire/ (and Kelly Blue Book before that). Hyundai America simply quoted the original source.


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Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!

Generalizations are usually wrong.

SOME Korean products are cheaper copycat versions of the real thing. But pretending that is true often enough to use it as an overriding rule is just plain wrong.

Using cars as an example is not a very useful starting point. AFAICS, all of the car manufacturers look like each other - at least partly because of the recent push toward better fuel economy which requires the best aerodynamics they can produce. Look at Motor Trend or Car and Driver's reviews where they compare 5 or 6 cars in each category. Without reading the caption, I find it hard to tell which is which - which is a far cry from when I was growing up. Back then, the cars were different enough that you could tell at a glance which was which. And, often, there were design clues that would give you a pretty good idea of the manufacturer even if you had never seen the car before. But it's not limited to the Koreans.
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4/7/12 at 11:05am
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Yeah and the SOURCE is Hyundai America--PR AGAIN!

Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!

You really need some serious work on your reading comprehension buddy.

So in your mind, those 55" OLED TVs are also "COPYCAT" versions too right? It's never done before. As long as its Korean, even if it was never done before, its a copy cat.

I personally think you have something against Koreans in general. You are filled with hatred against a nationality. You should get help. School is the first step.

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4/7/12 at 11:37am
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here's a poor guy who donated his kidneys to buy an iphone and an iPad--unreal, BUT at least he has impeccable tastes


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...usaolp00000003

Yeah, and that poor kid is near death now. You see the irrationality of Apple fanbois now?
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