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post #1 of 22
9/28/02 at 7:02pm
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why is OSX Jaguar still SOOOOOOOOOO slow?
When you open up a folder or the hard drive it takes seconds to list and show the contents...rubbish!!!!!! <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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post #2 of 22
9/28/02 at 7:09pm
shut up !

you made a THOUSAND of those threads already !

go back to OS 9 if you don't like 10

noooooo, he's back. damn !


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post #3 of 22
9/28/02 at 7:31pm
care to be a bit more specific? your problem seems unusual, as i've never run into it on at least a dozen machines so far.

i know you're notorious for just whining with no point, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

did you do a clean install of 10.2, archive, just an update?

was it this way for you in 10.1?
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post #4 of 22
9/28/02 at 7:55pm
[quote]Originally posted by alcimedes:
<strong>i know you're notorious for just whining with no point, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.</strong><hr></blockquote>

that must be why I'm no mod. I just don't have the energy to tell them everything always again.
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post #5 of 22
9/28/02 at 11:45pm
It feels quite snappy on my G4 iMac
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post #6 of 22
9/29/02 at 2:08am
Its LIGHTNING FAST on my TiBook 800MHz

oh and my iMac G4 flies with OS X

oh and the old G$ 400Mhz which is suprisgnly*** good!


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post #7 of 22
9/29/02 at 3:51am
True, it isn't as snappy on all current mac models. I am on an iBook and I have the same experience: if opening a folder (that you haven't open in a while, admitted) with more than, say 50 to 80 items in it, it does take more than a while. (iBook 600, that is). Anyway, Jobs in his keynote did twice a trick with a folder with 'over 3000 items', which opened in a snap. I would like to know what machine he does that on, and if there is no trickery involved.
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post #8 of 22
9/29/02 at 5:42am
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[quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:
<strong>True, it isn't as snappy on all current mac models. I am on an iBook and I have the same experience: if opening a folder (that you haven't open in a while, admitted) with more than, say 50 to 80 items in it, it does take more than a while. (iBook 600, that is). Anyway, Jobs in his keynote did twice a trick with a folder with 'over 3000 items', which opened in a snap. I would like to know what machine he does that on, and if there is no trickery involved.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think he tricked everyone - by opening the folder he knew he would be openeing a few times, ahead of time, it seems to return to a contents list quicker if it has been open once before,

I am not totally bent out of shape so fear ye not! I am not gonna go crazy in the thread. It is just shockign that OS9 is faster than OSX Jaguar.....Come on people you gotta admit that the 3 seconds delays in listing/drawing the contents of a folder (with lets say 50 itmes in) is annoying
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post #9 of 22
9/29/02 at 5:57am
ah-- let's not rehash the whole "OS9 is faster than OS 10" discussion. I've had about enuff'
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post #10 of 22
9/29/02 at 6:33am
Well I can kinda see where kittylitterdesign is coming from. But there were a few things that I did to help my situation.

1.) Do a clean install of Jag. No prior OS X or 9 installs on the hard drive at all. Start from scratch.

2.) Run the 10.2.1 update. That seemed to help too.

3.) Reboot after the system comes back up after the 10.2.1 reboot. This was there are no "new" files being copied or accessed in any way that would slow the system down for that power-up.

4.) Pray. Cause what I just told you, worked for me, and my iBook 700.

Good luck.

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post #11 of 22
9/29/02 at 9:57am
another thing. do you have your machine calculating the folder and file size of everything in the directory? i have noticed that that will slow a machine down. the biggest problem is if the folder sizes are changing all the time. then they have to be recalculated every time you open up a folder.

-alcimedes
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post #12 of 22
9/29/02 at 10:52am
Faster than any windows machine i've used on my Ti800, tis truely wonderful, is there loads of people using really old machines or something becuase mine was even lightning before I installed jag, havent a single complaint its a heavenly machine
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post #13 of 22
9/29/02 at 11:07am
I have the same problem on my brand-new iBook 700 Mhz, despite the maxed out RAM (640 MB) and the update to 10.2.1. There is a two second delay between double-clicking on my hard drive icon to a window opening up, with no user feedback at all in between. Very disappointing.
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post #14 of 22
9/29/02 at 12:27pm
does this happen with all 3 icon views?

also, do you have your HD set to go to sleep?

[ 09-29-2002: Message edited by: alcimedes ]</p>
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post #15 of 22
9/29/02 at 1:05pm
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[quote]Originally posted by alcimedes:
<strong>another thing. do you have your machine calculating the folder and file size of everything in the directory? i have noticed that that will slow a machine down. the biggest problem is if the folder sizes are changing all the time. then they have to be recalculated every time you open up a folder.

-alcimedes</strong><hr></blockquote>

how do you switch that option off?
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post #16 of 22
9/29/02 at 1:07pm
[quote]Originally posted by alcimedes:
<strong>does this happen with all 3 icon views?

also, do you have your HD set to go to sleep?

[ 09-29-2002: Message edited by: alcimedes ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
yes, and yes. The second however is not relevant because I am getting the slow reaction time even when I open the hard drive many subsequent times (between which the HD would obviously not have to got to sleep)
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post #17 of 22
9/29/02 at 1:27pm
well, i can't remember for the life of me where that option is set. however have either of you done a clean install, or booted off a 10.2 cd and repaired/fixed permissions?

-alcimedes

[ 09-29-2002: Message edited by: alcimedes ]</p>
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post #18 of 22
9/29/02 at 1:35pm
[quote]Originally posted by alcimedes:
<strong>well, i can't remember for the life of me where that option is set. however have either of you done a clean install, or booted off a 10.2 cd and repaired/fixed permissions?

-alcimedes

[ 09-29-2002: Message edited by: alcimedes ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

sorry I don't believe in magic.
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post #19 of 22
9/29/02 at 10:30pm
[quote]Originally posted by kittylitterdesign:
<strong>
It is just shockign that OS9 is faster than OSX Jaguar.....Come on people you gotta admit that the 3 seconds delays in listing/drawing the contents of a folder (with lets say 50 itmes in) is annoying
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't see you telling us how fast your Mac is. I suspect yours is like an original 233 G3 iMac or some such slow poke. Jaguar runs damn fast on my 2000 500 MHz Cube.

To maximize speed you should learn and always use Column View to deal with folders. You should also switch "Minimize using" "Genie Effect" in the Dock System Preference Pane to "Scale Effect" and uncheck "Animate opening applications" there too.

Also, you MUST MAXIMIZE you RAM configuration to experience optimum performance in OS X. It costs too little not to. Figure out what your maximum RAM capacity is and order a set of sticks to acomplish that specification. You will realize a radical increase in performance by simply doing that.

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post #20 of 22
9/29/02 at 11:03pm
I have a Mac with OS X 10.2.1 on it. Opening folders and listing contents is INSTANT. I'm going to say that again in case you missed it the first time:

INSTANT.

Yes, I do know what that word means. So do you suppose my Mac comes from a different dimension or something? Maybe it was manufactured in an alternate reality where Apple uses x86 chips while would obviously make everything instantaneous in OS X?

Mmm, sarcastilicious. To put a finer point on this post, perhaps Jaguar isn't the slow moving behemoth you think it is. listing folder contents is INSTANT for me (there's that word again), so it can't possibly be Jaguar, right? Do some detective work.
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post #21 of 22
9/29/02 at 11:05pm
I'm running jaguar on a g3 400mhz and u know waht its fine so shut ur trap and quit whining
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post #22 of 22
9/30/02 at 4:34am
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[quote]Originally posted by Multimedia:
<strong>

I don't see you telling us how fast your Mac is. I suspect yours is like an original 233 G3 iMac or some such slow poke. Jaguar runs damn fast on my 2000 500 MHz Cube.

Cherio, Kitty Litter!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nope you are wrong you presumptuos one - I am on a Tibook G4 800 speed

See ya later slow poke <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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