Originally Posted by SDW2001
So your argument is he's put them in a bad spot through gimmicky cuts that don't really help anything? Gee, that's a surprise.
Hmm? Obama's Buffett rule is gimmicky, not those tax cuts.
The top income taxpayers got the most dollars because...wait for it...they pay the taxes. Middle income people also benefited, a fact you'll find out if the cuts are allowed to expire. A couple like my wife and I are going to pay thousands more per year, and we're well below $150K combined.
Yes, top income earners do get the most benefit. But I want to make a point here: You say that the top income earners pay the taxes. But let's qualify that by saying they pay the federal income taxes
. Poor and middle income people pay a larger percentage of their income in payroll and other taxes than the wealthy. Because Bush's tax cuts were on marginal income tax rates, high income people got the most benefit. But that's not the only way to cut taxes, as Obama's tax cuts show.
We agree there. But this is what Obama's entire presidency has been reduced to...by him, might I add. Gimmicks, phony emergencies/deadlines and class warfare.
Obama says it's wrong for the wealthy to pay a lower tax rate than the middle class. Republicans want to cut taxes even further on the wealthy and raise them on the poor. And which one is class warfare?
The point is this: The stimulus failed, especially with regard to employment. There are fewer jobs in the U.S. today then when Obama took office. Official unemployment is higher than when Obama took office. Real unemployment is 11%. And yet we've added over $5 Trillion to the debt. This is not a good case for reelection.
At least you're honest about what really drives your thoughts on this topic: The election. The stimulus didn't fail, it created millions of jobs and increased GDP by several percent, according to
the nonpartisan economists whose job it is to analyze these things. Of course the politicians and media you follow incorrectly say "it failed!" but that's because they're motivated by politics over country and are willing to lie.
By the way, over 1/3 of the stimulus package was tax cuts. Funny how all the magic properties of tax cuts disappear when Obama the anti-American Kenyan Islamic Socialist enacts them.
And maybe this should go into the other thread, but if you want to talk election, this is a perfect example of why, although Republicans think they're being clever by opposing Obama on what would otherwise be bipartisan policies, they're actually hurting themselves by driving so far into crazy land.
According to the latest CNN poll:Republican party favorability
: 35%. Unfavorability: 58%Democrats
48% favorable, 45% unfavorable.
There's a reason why the American people hate the Republican party so much. You guys, in your decision to oppose Obama and call every mainstream policy a threat to the fabric of America are being forced into taking out-of-the-mainstream positions. And it's taking its toll on Romney, even though I'm sure his true self is far from a tea-partier.Romney
Favorable = 37%, unfavorable = 49%.
according to the same CNN polls:
Favorability = 56%, unfavorability = 42%
And now they're driving away any hope of closing the Hispanic gap by opposing what used to be bipartisan policy on immigration.
Who knows, pretty soon Republicans will probably be opposing contraception, opposing fair pay for women laws, and maybe even try to pass laws requiring doctors to probe women's vaginas. You thought the gender gap was bad before?