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Samsung will remain the primary supplier of Retina displays for the new iPad for the foreseeable future, as Apple continues to face supply issues for the high-resolution screen.

Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo with KGI Securities revealed to AppleInsider on Monday that Samsung was the sole supplier of iPad Retina displays to Apple in the first quarter of 2012. That's consistent with earlier reports, but also reveals that only Samsung was able to provide high-resolution screens to Apple for the entirety of the quarter.

In fact, it's likely that Samsung is still the only iPad Retina display supplier. Kuo said LG Display is expected to begin providing screens in the second quarter of calendar 2012, but did not indicate that Sharp has actually begun providing displays.

Even when LG does enter the supply chain, Samsung will remain the main supplier of Retina displays for the new iPad, Kuo said. Companies outside of Samsung have struggled to reliably build the new screens, which pack in more pixels than a 1080p high-definition television.

While LG is expected to begin supplying screens for the new iPad this quarter, Kuo said that Apple's other main display provider, Sharp, won't be able to build iPad Retina displays at a "normal rate" until the third quarter of 2012.

"Sharp Still has production yield and material stability issues unresolved due to the adoption of Oxide technology," Kuo wrote in a research note.

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Kuo believes that constrained supply of the new iPad resulted in sales of 13.1 million units last quarter. However, last week there was a sign that availability of the new iPad is improving, when advertised shipping times from Apple shortened to just 5 to 7 days.

Kuo expects sales of 18.6 million total iPad units in the second quarter of calendar 2012, as supply improves and Retina display production ramps up.

He also offered commentary on the so-called "iPad mini," a rumored device with a 7.85-inch screen that has been the subject of considerable discussion recently. Kuo said he believes such a device could launch early in the fourth quarter of 2012, allowing it to go on sale ahead of the holiday buying season.
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The sooner the other companies get their act together the better. Relying heavily on Samsung at the moment isn't ideal...

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The sooner the other companies get their act together the better. Relying heavily on Samsung at the moment isn't ideal...

 

Kuo hasn't provided any proof is his claims which read, in this case, more like he's trying to pump Samsung than comment either way about Apple. 

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Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.

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I'm not sure I believe the report.  Seems they always come out with negative report right before the quarterly results (and proven wrong time and again)

 

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Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.

 

Some of you guys leave the dumbest comments. If Samsung wasn't reliable, do you think they'd still be manufacturing for Apple? They have contracts.  They fill their contracts, so the relationship goes on. 

 

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The sooner the other companies get their act together the better. Relying heavily on Samsung at the moment isn't ideal...

 

I read this all the time, and yet Samsung would build phones either way. You guys have no imagination.

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Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.

 

Samsung has more than one division. I doubt the semiconductor/LCD divisions are going to limit the money they make from selling to Apple because of a fight between Samsung Mobile and Apple. More likely, those divisions are pissed at Samsung Mobile for taking actions that might make Apple want to switch to other suppliers over time and reduce their sales.

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Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.

 

If they were found to be doing that, all existing lawsuits against them combined would pale in comparison to what Apple would bring down on them for that. And win.

 

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Some of you guys leave the dumbest comments. If Samsung wasn't reliable, do you think they'd still be manufacturing for Apple? They have contracts.  They fill their contracts, so the relationship goes on.

 

Fill their contracts… well enough. Doesn't mean they're putting their heart into it. "No pressing need", as it were, when things go wrong.

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If they were found to be doing that, all existing lawsuits against them combined would pale in comparison to what Apple would bring down on them for that. And win.

 

 

Fill their contracts… well enough. Doesn't mean they're putting their heart into it. "No pressing need", as it were, when things go wrong.

 

I don't think that would happen. These are big companies. They would have contracts including contingency terms/clauses laid out in advance. It would not require lawsuits. I think you're editorializing too much here. Regarding consistency problems, you'd think they'd test ipads post assembly and set the display levels once the backlight has been fitted. Of course I don't know their exact manufacturing process or how many Foxconn commits to building monthly, so I can't even make an educated guess there. 

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Quite stupid of anyone to blame Samsung.

 

Lets look at the issue. Apple requires X amount of displays per year.

Samsung builds plant and says it can deliver Y amount of displays MAX. A facility cannot make an infinite amount of product after all

Apple says ok and goes to find another supplier to display the remaining Z amount of displays needed.

If you didn't realize, I'm using X = Y + Z

Samsung delivers on their contract as they have FOR YEARS to deliver their Y displays per year.

Other manufacturers (sharp, LG, Whirlpool, whoever) who have shoddy factories and shoddy QC, FAIL to deliver on their Z amount of displays like they promised they will.

What has Samsung done wrong? They are delivering how many they were contracted to deliver.

 

Meanwhile, blind fanboys want other manufacturers who cant produce these displays in large numbers to save their lives, to take over ALL ipad manufacturing.

 

REALLY? How much has fanboyism blinded some of you?

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I'm not sure I believe the report.  Seems they always come out with negative report right before the quarterly results (and proven wrong time and again)

 

 

Of course, what better way to make a little extra profit when Apple again outperforms even their own expectations.  It drives me crazy, about as much as the fact that we also pay gas prices set by how much they expect Oil to cost in the coming weeks/months.  When gas ends up costing less they say, "well, looks like gas won't rise as expected" as they pocket the extra cash they just got from charging more for something that didn't actually cost what they expected.  Funny thing is I thought profit was supposed to be a percentage of actual cost to your company not "expected" cost.  When tornado season starts every year we don't see corn prices suddenly rise in anticipation of possible losses to tornados.  It all seems a bit criminal to me.

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The sooner the other companies get their act together the better. Relying heavily on Samsung at the moment isn't ideal...

 

Well, unfortunately, as I've been saying all along, Samsung is the *only* supplier big, technical, reliable enough to meet Apple's need. Apple can't just pick and choose any supplier of their choice or hire a bunch of unskilled workers to increase the output of those components.


Edited by tooltalk - 4/23/12 at 10:26pm
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Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.

 

I guess they could. It's obvious that Apple really needs Samsung..  With Samsung's soaring revenue / profit, I don't think Samsung needs Apple that bad.


Edited by tooltalk - 4/23/12 at 10:26pm
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Samsung’s not the problem—it’s the other companies.

 

Anyway, if retina-screen supply constraints are true (and they likely are) then releasing a non-retina 8” iPad makes sense as a way to reach more of the demand for iPads.

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…releasing a non-retina 8” iPad makes sense as a way to reach more of the demand for iPads.

 

No, it doesn't… 

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Some of you guys leave the dumbest comments. If Samsung wasn't reliable, do you think they'd still be manufacturing for Apple? They have contracts.  They fill their contracts, so the relationship goes on. 

 

 

I read this all the time, and yet Samsung would build phones either way. You guys have no imagination.

 

I'm fully aware that Apple has a contract with Samsung and that they will continue to make Smartphones anyway. My point was that relying on just one supper (especially with all of the current legal wranglings going on) isn't ideal. I've nothing against Samsung personally but surely you can see that Apple relying on one of their main competitors for components isn't healthy.

 

The quicker the other suppliers get their act together the better.

 

In an ideal world, Apple would produce their own chips/components. Maybe that is the way things are heading...

 

In regards to me having no imagination (which is totally irrelevant), I'd have to disagree with you =)


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Samsung has more than one division. I doubt the semiconductor/LCD divisions are going to limit the money they make from selling to Apple because of a fight between Samsung Mobile and Apple. More likely, those divisions are pissed at Samsung Mobile for taking actions that might make Apple want to switch to other suppliers over time and reduce their sales.

 

not sure that's how it works. I'm guessing Samsung's own mobile division (now #1 smartphone / feature maker) generates enough demand that it doesn't have to bend over for Apple. Furthermore, all signs indicate that Apple has become more, not less, dependent on Samsung, even with all the legal battles. Apple's new iPad is now 50% Samsung (eg, cpu, memory, display, battery).

 

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not sure that's how it works. I'm guessing Samsung's own mobile division (now #1 smartphone / feature maker) generates enough demand that it doesn't have to bend over for Apple. Furthermore, all signs indicate that Apple has become more, not less, dependent on Samsung, even with all the legal battles. Apple's new iPad is now 50% Samsung (eg, cpu, memory, display, battery).

 

 

Samsung is a huge conglomerate, the mobile division is a completely different division from displays and chip fabs. Of which, there are other suppliers, three other major panel suppliers and several other custom semiconductor fabs, and there are five other major flash chip makers, I think Apple deals with all of them because they are half the market demand.  My guess is Samsung was the lowest bidder for the parts on the third iPad.

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Samsung are certainly supplying enough demand, in fact if delivery is now only 5-7 days they ahead of demand. With others sticking to lower resolutions it is certainly cost effective to stick with the one supplier rather than have minor but subtle variances from each supply chain. Anyway, its all made up. What do we/they know?
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Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.

 

Samsung has more than one division. I doubt the semiconductor/LCD divisions are going to limit the money they make from selling to Apple because of a fight between Samsung Mobile and Apple. More likely, those divisions are pissed at Samsung Mobile for taking actions that might make Apple want to switch to other suppliers over time and reduce their sales.


Indeed. Love how everyone thinks Samsung is one, huge monolith. Samsung's components division needs to make money, and Samsung and Apple are currently in a supplier relationship where Samsung relies upon years of reputation for reliability. When there are billions of dollars of component sales at stake, Samsung won't one day decide to renege on its agreements.


As difficult as it may be for some people here to believe, this isn't some sandbox fight.
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Quite stupid of anyone to blame Samsung.

 

Lets look at the issue. Apple requires X amount of displays per year.

Samsung builds plant and says it can deliver Y amount of displays MAX. A facility cannot make an infinite amount of product after all

Apple says ok and goes to find another supplier to display the remaining Z amount of displays needed.

If you didn't realize, I'm using X = Y + Z

Samsung delivers on their contract as they have FOR YEARS to deliver their Y displays per year.

Other manufacturers (sharp, LG, Whirlpool, whoever) who have shoddy factories and shoddy QC, FAIL to deliver on their Z amount of displays like they promised they will.

What has Samsung done wrong? They are delivering how many they were contracted to deliver.

 

Meanwhile, blind fanboys want other manufacturers who cant produce these displays in large numbers to save their lives, to take over ALL ipad manufacturing.

 

REALLY? How much has fanboyism blinded some of you?


This is the credited response and warrants ending any further discussion of blame on Samsung.


I love how when things go wrong it doesn't occur to a fanboy that any such fault lies with Apple and not Samsung. Most people here coming up with retarded conspiracy theories have probably never handled a supply contract in their entire lives.
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Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.

 

 

Tough to pinpoint where to start with respect to everything that's wrong with this comment. Let me guess. Didn't go to college? 

 

 

It's people like you who give reasonable, bona fide Apple fans a bad name. 

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No, it doesn't… 

 

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Fill their contracts… well enough. Doesn't mean they're putting their heart into it. "No pressing need", as it were, when things go wrong.

 

 

Supply contracts typically come with compensatory clauses that parties can invoke when there's a breach.

 

 

There's no expectation placed upon Samsung to place their heart into something. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're getting at, let alone whether you even know what you're talking about.

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Because Steve Jobs said so? lol.gif

 

Because give me a single use case for an iPad 1.8" smaller than the existing one that couldn't be fulfilled by existing product.

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Indeed. Love how everyone thinks Samsung is one, huge monolith. Samsung's components division needs to make money, and Samsung and Apple are currently in a supplier relationship where Samsung relies upon years of reputation for reliability. When there are billions of dollars of component sales at stake, Samsung won't one day decide to renege on its agreements.
As difficult as it may be for some people here to believe, this isn't some sandbox fight.

 

You guys clearly have no idea how South Korean conglomerates like Hyundai, Samssung, LG, Daewoo are organized.  No, unfortuntely there is no such wall or division between most large chebols in Korea - they are all owned and tightly managed by the same families or a small clique of best buddies and significant others.

 

Sure, if Apple could sell 50M iPads this year, that alone is 50M * $85 or $4+B worth of contract for Samsung, so why refuse such a lucrative deal?  For Samsung though, it's a chump change ($4B out of $160B), but at the same time, if Apple keeps pissing off Samsung with pissy lawsuits, Samsung doesn't have to bid on Apple's contract to begin with. As the new iPad display fiasco has shown, Samsung's reputation is second to none.  Samsung's reputation is already well established  - it's in fact one of the largest electronic companies in the world.

 

Unfortunately for Apple isheeps, Samsung's fate is not in Apple's hand. Again, Samsung is now #1 smartphone / #2 overall phone makers in the world. It can andwill generate enough internal demand to divert its production capacity ; in last Q1 alone, Samsung Electronics' revenue jumped 20% and profit by 100% largely due to its increasing mobile sales. Apple has managed to slow down Samsung's entry to the tablet market with frivolous anti-competitive lawsuits, but it won't last long.


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Glad I got mine, was worth upgrading from an iPad 2.

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Kuo said LG Display is expected to begin providing screens in the second quarter of calendar 2012
 

 

Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.

 

If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !

 

I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !

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I've said this before (before launch of the new iPad) - Retina Display on a medium to large screen is a remarkable engineering feat. This is why it was only launched by Apple well over a year after initial rumors. 

 

If this rumor of low yield is true, it is not surprising. This should also put to rest the notion of iMacs or Cinema displays with Retina Display being launched anytime soon.  Those who even dream it do not understand engineering.
 

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Glad I got mine, was worth upgrading from an iPad 2.

 

I agree - this is a remarkable revolution.

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Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.

 

If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !

 

I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !

 

 

ROFL!!  You fanbois are not very bright.

 

LG had many problems manufacturing Apple's iPad 2 last year and Apple had to ask another supplier to fill the shortfall created by the light-bleeding problem. Guess who that supplier was - Yes, it was Samsung.  If there is no blacklight bleeding problem on your iPad, it's likely that it's manufactured by Samsung.  It's not at all surprising that LG is still having problems with the new iPad's display.

 

Now, if your goal is to boycott Samsung altogether, on whatever frivolous ground, you should seriously consider stop using iPhones 3, 3S, 4, 4S or iPad 1, 2, new.  Apple's new iPad for instance uses Samsung's CPU A5X, NAND flash, DRAM, display and battery, or roughly 50% of new iPad's entire BOM. So you might as well just forget about i* altogether.

 

Of course, lucky for Apple, there seems to be no shortage of fanbois who are just as happy with backlight bleeding or other defects.


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ROFL!!  You fanbois are not very bright.

 

LG had many problems manufacturing Apple's iPad 2 last year and Apple had to ask another supplier to fill the shortfall created by the light-bleeding problem. Guess who that supplier was - Yes, it was Samsung.  If there is no blacklight bleeding problem on your iPad, it's likely that it's manufactured by Samsung.  It's not at all surprising that LG is still having problems with the new iPad's display.

 

Now, if your goal is to boycott Samsung altogether, on whatever frivolous ground, you should seriously consider stop using iPhones 3, 3S, 4, 4S or iPad 1, 2, new.  Apple's new iPad for instance uses Samsung's CPU A5X, NAND flash, DRAM, display and battery, or roughly 50% of new iPad's entire BOM. So you might as well just forget about i* altogether.

 

Of course, lucky for Apple, there seems to be no shortage of fanbois who are just as happy with backlight bleeding or other defects.

 

Well I have reservations against Samsung only for the Display, they maybe good with the chips and other components that they are supplying for the iPad but Display Oh Please ! not by Samsung ! AFAIK iPhone 4s Displays have been supplied by LG and Sharp I have never heard a Samsung Name in a iPhone 4s display ! And a little bit of Backlight Bleeding is still accepateble but no ways I would accept a yellowsh looking display screen, that would literally drive me crazy ! No ways !

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Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.

If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !

I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !

Just bought two iPad 2's for the kids. One has a perfect screen one has a huge light leak all along the side above the home button. Probably not bother to return it. The iPad 3 I bought myself though is probably going back. There is this blotch on the side of the screen that makes text look fuzzy and whie backgrounds look yellowish. Anyone else had that problem on a iPad 3?
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I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !

You're not a very bright person. Other components will still be made by Samsung. If you disliked them for a real reason, that would be one thing. Instead you dislike them because of the Apple fan site narratives. Anyway... LG does produce panels for a lot of top brands. Many of them make their own modifications, but use the LG sourced panels to control costs. Previously it was mostly LG with IPS vs. Samsung with PVA. IPS had superior viewing angles and better color stability, so it was used for higher end displays although not favored among gamers.

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Just bought two iPad 2's for the kids. One has a perfect screen one has a huge light leak all along the side above the home button. Probably not bother to return it. The iPad 3 I bought myself though is probably going back. There is this blotch on the side of the screen that makes text look fuzzy and whie backgrounds look yellowish. Anyone else had that problem on a iPad 3?

I think the iPad 2 was still using IPS displays from LG. Given that they changed the design considerably this round, yields are still most likely low.  I'm not sure on text looking fuzzy. There are many possible reasons beyond the base hardware. Anyway the yellowish thing is easier to comment on. On any of these displays, they would have to test and set the hardware response. I'm not sure if they're adjusting it during assembly after the backlight is fitted (most likely at Foxconn) or how their assembly process is working. It's quite likely that the yellow thing will eventually be resolved by tweaking testing methods or hardware settings at the factory. Dealing with a much wider gamut may have thrown them off, and this problem has been mentioned before. I would suggest returning and just holding off for a while on a repurchase. I've read of some people exchanging many ipads hoping for a perfect one, but it's likely that the technology being used just isn't there yet.

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So a Forest Gump famous screen quote is "life was like a box of chocolates you never know what sort of screen you would get"
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So a Forest Gump famous screen quote is "life was like a box of chocolates you never know what sort of screen you would get"

The brand might be in question, but for the most part, it probably shouldn't matter. I imagine that some batches are out of spec, but most of them should be good.
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