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... reasonning that says "people who disagree with my opinion are mostly poseurs" is untrustworthy. ...

 

I didn't mean that they were poseurs for disagreeing with my opinion.  Everyone is free to do that of course (and often does).  :)

 

I see hundreds of Apple laptops a year in my job, being bought by all kinds of people for all kinds of uses and in my experience, over the long haul, and on average, almost no one buys a 15" or a 17" MacBook Pro, although the 15" is far more popular than the 17".  Those that do (again IMO), tend to be show-offs, or concerned with having the "biggest/best" laptop in the room far more than they are concerned with issues connected with actually using the machine.  

 

All the real pros I know are more likely to be using a 13", or maybe a 15" if they need the screen size.  I would say the majority of the power users and the majority of users in general have already moved to MacBook Airs.  The 17" MacBook Pro is just over the top for almost everyone (only 1.6% of all Mac laptop users have a 17" model by the numbers in the article).  

 

When someone comes into my office with one of these beasts, most of the staff kind of roll their eyes when the person isn't looking as it's usually someone with more money and more pride than they have common sense.  It's not nice to hear perhaps, but it's true in my neck of the woods anyway.  

 

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I guess me trying to be a creative professional with my 17" is me showing off. Good to know. I guess it has nothing to do with efficiency or personal practicality. I'm glad other people are so helpful and considerate to tell me how I am and what works best for me. Thanks.
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post #43 of 196

Apple should make an ultra-portable Mac. 400 to 600 g. Whatever form factor. The Mac in your pocket, purse or bag. Always.

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Originally Posted by megadeth7 View Post

IMHO I think this is how it will/ought to shake out.

 

MacBook Pro - 13", 15" & 17" all Ivy Bridge Quad-core, 13" using Intel HD4000, 15" & 17" using discrete GPU, all capable of 16GB RAM, SSDs from 128GB-512GB, 128GB standard on 13", 256GB standard on 15" & 17". 4GB standard on all. No ODD. All having Mag-safe, Gig ethernet, FW800, Thunderbolt & 2 USB3 capable ports. 17" to retain ExpressCard slot, 13" & 15" to retain SD slot. 17" to have 3 USB3 ports. All to have Retina displays.

 

MacBook Air - 11", 13" & 15" all Ivy Bridge Dual-core & using Intel HD4000. All with 4GB RAM up to  8GB RAM (BTO). SSDs throughout - 128GB on 11" & 13", 256GB standard on 15". No ODD. All having Mag-safe, Thunderbolt & 2 USB3 capable ports. 13" & 15" to have SD card slot. All using displays similar to today.

 

So in essence the main differences between the Air & Pro lines will be Quad-core, retina display, max RAM, more port Pro's & Dual-core, standard res, lower max RAM Air's.

 

Agree or not?

 

 

 

I believe Apple will try to at least maintain if not lower the price points.  Will they be able to do that with the specs you have outlined?

post #45 of 196

First they drop XServe, then Mac Pro, now 17'' MBP. I guess 27'' iMac is next in line as the most powerful mac. Then 15'' MBP. I guess until only 11'' Air, iPad and iPhone are left. After all that's all consumers need right.
 

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Apple should make an ultra-portable Mac. 400 to 600 g. Whatever form factor. The Mac in your pocket, purse or bag. Always.

 

That's why iDevices exist. People actually don't want tiny computers.

 

 

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First they drop XServe, then Mac Pro, now 17'' MBP. I guess 27'' iMac is next in line as the most powerful mac. Then 15'' MBP. I guess until only 11'' Air, iPad and iPhone are left. After all that's all consumers need right.

 

Give it a rest.

 

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post #47 of 196

Silly argument. It's probably the price that keeps customers from the MBP 17". But, it is a desktop replacement in a laptop form factor. People buy a MBP 13" or "15" when they don't need a desktop at all, or need and have a desktop to 80% of their work -- and that appears to be most folks. But, if you need closer to desktop performance in a portable device, MBP 17" is the only way to go and much more cost effective than buying a smaller MBP plus an external screen or an iMac. 

 

If a person needs real portability with power, it's the iPad plus the MBP 17". 

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First they drop XServe, then Mac Pro, now 17'' MBP. I guess 27'' iMac is next in line as the most powerful mac. Then 15'' MBP. I guess until only 11'' Air, iPad and iPhone are left. After all that's all consumers need right.
 

When did they drop the Mac Pro and 17" MBP? I must have missed that communication from Apple.
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Apple will discontinue the 17" model if it sees sales declining.  Frankly, I rarely see a 17" MBP when I'm traveling around the country.  See plenty of the 13" and 15" models, though.

 

Two other factors that may have a bearing on the need for this machine:  technology to allow easier monitor mirroring and resolution independence.  Just think if every new TV made was able to be a Mac monitor with no trouble at all.  Also, what if resolution independence made screen size less important, allowing you to zoom in and out at will to suit your needs at any moment?

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Silly argument. It's probably the price that keeps customers from the MBP 17". But, it is a desktop replacement in a laptop form factor. People buy a MBP 13" or "15" when they don't need a desktop at all, or need and have a desktop to 80% of their work -- and that appears to be most folks. But, if you need closer to desktop performance in a portable device, MBP 17" is the only way to go and much more cost effective than buying a smaller MBP plus an external screen or an iMac. 

 

If a person needs real portability with power, it's the iPad plus the MBP 17". 

 

Bingo. Or the iPad/iMac combo. And as the iPad's power grows, it's the LOWER-powered laptops that will be feeling the pinch, not the 17".

 

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When did they drop the Mac Pro and 17" MBP? I must have missed that communication from Apple.

 

[bleeding sarcasm]Oh, really? The writing has been on the wall for years. I'm surprised it took them this long to admit to their failure…[/bleeding sarcasm]

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post #51 of 196

 

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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

I called this.

 

Right.  Back in 2006 I imagine.

 

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As hard as this may be for you to hear, you are not everyone. Speak for yourself!

 

Congrats, you've been successfully trolled...along with a half dozen others. 

 

Regarding the need for the 17" I had one and loved the screen but not so much the weight.  It was freaking hard to work on in an airplane if you fly coach.  I guess it depends on your use case.  If I were still a road warrior I'd probably get a smaller MBP or MBA and wished Samsung had not discontinued their Lapfit monitor line.

 

This would be pretty good if it ever ships and the display quality is half decent:  http://www.mmt2.com/monitor2go.html

 

CES video:  

 

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/mmt-monitor2go-hands-on-video/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaLvy7nVigo

 

They say list price will be under $300.

 

But if you need the compute power then the 17" MBP is irreplaceable for the OSX road warrior.

post #52 of 196

I do software development primarily. Honestly programming on a 13'' or 15'' screen, or even single 17'' screen is really constrained. Ideally you want at least 2 21'' screens, but two 30'' is great. 17'' MBP is sort of minimal screen you can do some work on if you have to on the road. I usually have couple of terminal windows, an IDE instance of some kind, etc a browser and it's nice to be able to have all of these side by side so you can quickly read information from each windows without them overlapping.

 

People who don't do software development don't understand this it seems. I can also see how large screen is useful for image editing. And for HD video editing two 30'' screens are almost a must (if you want to see before/after edits in full resolution).

 

I don't buy my gear to show off, and honestly never give a **** what people think of me based on what computer I use. Some people assume I'm a technophobic idiot because I use Apple computer to begin with (until I fire up terminal and shame them to death with my Shell Fu), others think it's a fashion accessory. I could not care less. I use them because they currently meet my need.
 

And I don't work on 17'' laptop while traveling, on the plane etc. 17'' laptop is more a desktop you can carry easily. You take it over to the destination, unpack and work. If you go to a customer site etc. I would not even try to work on 17'' MBP on a plane. That would be ridiculous.

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One thing I like Apple for...they know what to cut, and eventually, you'll get over it.  I mean what are you gonna do..buy a PC? 

 

The only reason I had a 17" was for the Express Card slot.  Now that thunderbolt has hit the market, 17" is extra screen that somewhat defeats portability.  I work with a team of 3D modelers, I edit 1080p video, use lots of windows simultaneously, and we do fine with a 13" on the road until we plugin into the cinema displays in the lab.  


Buying a PC is exactly what I will do. I need the space because iPad won't do heavy things such as modeling and even if it did, doing them by finger would suck
Was planning on buying a MacBook pro 17 in a year with internship money, if it is discontinued. I will not be switching from PC to Mac.
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Originally Posted by megadeth7 View Post

IMHO I think this is how it will/ought to shake out.

 

MacBook Pro - 13", 15" & 17" all Ivy Bridge Quad-core, 13" using Intel HD4000, 15" & 17" using discrete GPU, all capable of 16GB RAM, SSDs from 128GB-512GB, 128GB standard on 13", 256GB standard on 15" & 17". 4GB standard on all. No ODD. All having Mag-safe, Gig ethernet, FW800, Thunderbolt & 2 USB3 capable ports. 17" to retain ExpressCard slot, 13" & 15" to retain SD slot. 17" to have 3 USB3 ports. All to have Retina displays.

 

MacBook Air - 11", 13" & 15" all Ivy Bridge Dual-core & using Intel HD4000. All with 4GB RAM up to  8GB RAM (BTO). SSDs throughout - 128GB on 11" & 13", 256GB standard on 15". No ODD. All having Mag-safe, Thunderbolt & 2 USB3 capable ports. 13" & 15" to have SD card slot. All using displays similar to today.

 

So in essence the main differences between the Air & Pro lines will be Quad-core, retina display, max RAM, more port Pro's & Dual-core, standard res, lower max RAM Air's.

 

Agree or not?

 

 

 


Almost. Retina displays? Not yet. Too expensive to manufacture with acceptable yield in the required sizes. And I fear for the ExpressCard slot on the 17".

 

.tsooJ

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Originally Posted by waldobushman View Post

Silly argument. It's probably the price that keeps customers from the MBP 17". But, it is a desktop replacement in a laptop form factor. People buy a MBP 13" or "15" when they don't need a desktop at all, or need and have a desktop to 80% of their work -- and that appears to be most folks. But, if you need closer to desktop performance in a portable device, MBP 17" is the only way to go and much more cost effective than buying a smaller MBP plus an external screen or an iMac. 

 

If a person needs real portability with power, it's the iPad plus the MBP 17". 

 

The high-end 15" MBP and the 17" MBP internals (CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD) are identical. The only difference is the display and few extra ports. You only need a 17" MBP if you need the 17" display. Performance is the same and this is where your argument falls apart. You don't have to go for $1000 Apple display. There are cheaper options else where.


Edited by NasserAE - 4/23/12 at 8:21am
post #56 of 196

Maybe something all new...

 

12" = MacBook

14" = MacBook Air

16" = MacBook Pro


 

post #57 of 196

No way! I was fully intent on going with 17" for my next MacBook. I was actually hoping for an even bigger screen MacBook.

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post #58 of 196

 

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

...almost no one buys a 15" or a 17" MacBook Pro, although the 15" is far more popular than the 17".  Those that do (again IMO), tend to be show-offs, or concerned with having the "biggest/best" laptop in the room far more than they are concerned with issues connected with actually using the machine...

 

 

Really?!? So now I'm a show-off because I bought a 15" MBP? Way to generalize man. I bought my 15" MBP because, get this, I actually needed a 1680x1050 hi-res display for video editing and photography. I have a cinema display at home, but the extra res really helps on the road. No offense, but the 1280x800 res on the 13" really doesn't cut it. 

 

That said, I had a 17" PowerBook G4 for 4 years and (in my opinion) it was a bit too big. I now have the same res that the PBG4 had in my 15" MBP. I do not, however, want them to discontinue the 17" MBP for those who use them. Obviously, if sales of the 17" model really start to fall off, Apple will give it the axe.


Edited by Rob55 - 4/23/12 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post

Apple will discontinue the 17" model if it sees sales declining.  Frankly, I rarely see a 17" MBP when I'm traveling around the country.  See plenty of the 13" and 15" models, though.

 

Two other factors that may have a bearing on the need for this machine:  technology to allow easier monitor mirroring and resolution independence.  Just think if every new TV made was able to be a Mac monitor with no trouble at all.  Also, what if resolution independence made screen size less important, allowing you to zoom in and out at will to suit your needs at any moment?

 

Well an aTV + AirParrot can do that for you today for any HDTV.  And of course that's a feature for ML.  The aTV, like the little AirPort Express would be in my travel bag.

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

 

 

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, hope so.  :)

 

13" is the most popular unit they make

 

and (apologies to those above) but ...

17" is mostly for poseurs and doesn't sell in large numbers.

 

Very few customers looking for a laptop want big, bulky and heavy.  It's a niche part of the portable market for sure. 

I am not sure if you're a troll or just uniformed. Expensive things are always lower volume items, yet they often carry higher margins. Calling people poseurs is just silly. They don't have to buy a 17" notebook to check facebook. They're probably using it for work when a desktop + 24-27" display cannot be taken along.

 

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1-  17 inches is a very expensive machine, one of the reasons I don't have one (other reason is, I got the latest MBA 11 inches with all upgrades I needed, CPU, RAM... and it's perfect, if slightly slow on video games I play. Then again, I'm hardly running the latest games). Hence it explains why it comparatively sells less than machines that cost half its price.

 

2- Any reasonning that says "people who disagree with my opinion are mostly poseurs" is untrustworthy. Plus, these guys actually disagree with their wallet instead of with an internet messageboard, how annoying for you that they actually put their money where their heart is. Definitely poseurs... heh.

 

3- WHY does anyone listen to that analyst? Am I mistaken to think he's the one who's said many times the Mac Mini is going away (well, given a long enough timespan he'll end up being correct)? He's also the one saying Apple's going to sell iPad Mini this fall, right?

 

Well yeah, the guy who said that is simply narrow minded. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mario View Post

First they drop XServe, then Mac Pro, now 17'' MBP. I guess 27'' iMac is next in line as the most powerful mac. Then 15'' MBP. I guess until only 11'' Air, iPad and iPhone are left. After all that's all consumers need right.
 

 

Look at what you just wrote. It's the same mindset used to write this article. There isn't any insider information. They just decided to draw a parallel because they can.

post #61 of 196

 

Here are two examples of what might be construed as self-centered opinion. What's good for them must be good for all. Can't decide if this is funny or dumb.

 

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hope its not true. the 17" is the best Mac Book Pro available.

 

That cannot possibly be true.  Just because it suits your needs does not make it the best available.

 

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I hope this news is true. The 17" MacBook Pro annoys me. These are supposed to be portable machines ffs. Consumers don't want to carry these huge laptops around with them. 15" should be the maximum.

 

So you decide what other people should or shouldn't use?  Where do you get off saying consumers don't want to carry huge laptops when there are many who do. Did someone put a gun to the head of, for example, S4MB4?

 

Think before opining, people.

 

 

 

post #62 of 196

Actually, unless they make it thicker, anything larger than about 15" in the MBA form factor will be very fragile, or at least, subject to warping unless made of a very tough material.

 

Chances are, the new MB Pros will feature a much higher resolution (Retina?) display so even a 13 or 15" machine will effectively offer the same or better workspace than a 17" using lower res display.

 

Even the iPad has a high res than a current gen 17"!

 

 

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

 

I didn't mean that they were poseurs for disagreeing with my opinion.  Everyone is free to do that of course (and often does).  :)

 

I see hundreds of Apple laptops a year in my job, being bought by all kinds of people for all kinds of uses and in my experience, over the long haul, and on average, almost no one buys a 15" or a 17" MacBook Pro, although the 15" is far more popular than the 17".  Those that do (again IMO), tend to be show-offs, or concerned with having the "biggest/best" laptop in the room far more than they are concerned with issues connected with actually using the machine.  

 

All the real pros I know are more likely to be using a 13", or maybe a 15" if they need the screen size.  I would say the majority of the power users and the majority of users in general have already moved to MacBook Airs.  The 17" MacBook Pro is just over the top for almost everyone (only 1.6% of all Mac laptop users have a 17" model by the numbers in the article).  

 

When someone comes into my office with one of these beasts, most of the staff kind of roll their eyes when the person isn't looking as it's usually someone with more money and more pride than they have common sense.  It's not nice to hear perhaps, but it's true in my neck of the woods anyway.  

 

 

Another narrow minded poster that likes insulting folks that disagree with their asinine opinion.

 

Pretty much all the "pros" around here have 15" MBPs.  The 13" MBPs only come with the GMA 3000 and for many if not most "pros" that's simply not good enough for rendering, development, graphics, etc.

 

The only poser around here is you since you clearly don't know many pros or why they select the 15" or 17" MBP. 

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Buying a PC is exactly what I will do. I need the space because iPad won't do heavy things such as modeling and even if it did, doing them by finger would suck
Was planning on buying a MacBook pro 17 in a year with internship money, if it is discontinued. I will not be switching from PC to Mac.
 

I can't blame you.

 

As you have stated previously, every member in your family have and love their Dells. 

 

Pretty hard to share their software if you were to switch. And to have to buy Mac Apps, in particular for modelling, it would probably cost you a prohibitive penny, as well as the time to deprogram your PC upbringing.

 

That said, I don't know why you even bother to comment on what Apple, or what other say, may intend to do. It seems obvious you never really intend to go Mac.

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I stopped reading at "according to one analyst".
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I wouldn't be surprised if the new 13" MacBook Pro with Retina Displays has a higher resolution screen than todays 17" MacBook Pro.

I also wouldn't be surprised If Apple expanded its lineup of CinemaDisplays with new Retina Display Models.

 

These two factors along with the minuscule sales of the 17" MacBook Pro make it obsolete in Apple's eyes.

post #67 of 196

Long ago when I had only owned a desktop computer, I wished I had a large laptop. My desk monitor was 15" 1024 X 768. When I bought my Mac Book 13" in 2008 I liked having the computer on my lap for watching movies. It was on a small pad that kept the heat off my legs. When I purchases a 23" 1920 X1080 monitor and plugged it into the Mac Book I realized that the external monitor was far better than having a bigger screen on a laptop.

 

For me, having a powerful small laptop computer with an external monitor is the best of both worlds. When the computer needs to travel it is small and light. When at home it plugs into a large screen. My external keyboard and trackball do the job of interfacing with it.

 

Killing the 17" MBP makes sense. The smaller Mac Book Pros are now powerful enough to power big monitors and do all the work the 17" could do. Only the people who must have a huge screen at various locations will be left out. In five years we'll be able to purchase giant monitors that roll up into cylinders like posters. Those will be very portable and will fit anywhere.
 

post #68 of 196

Lots of different opinions here, just want to add mine, in case Apple reads these forums. The 17" size was just too big for me to lug around, and I never realy need that much portable desktop space. Same story for the 15", now I'm down to the 13" MBP, and waiting for a good excuse to get the 11" MBA. But what would really be attractive would be an iPad-sized industrial-strength MBA, with fully-functional keyboard (I could easily manage something smaller than the usual norm) and enough I/O ports - a non-glare screen would be desirable, too (though that may not jibe with retina-display quality). Something light and portable like this would be just perfect. And I bet the masses would love it, too.

post #69 of 196

What they'll do is drop the 17" MBP and release a 15" MBP with a retina display that has a much higher resolution than the outgoing 17" MBP, thus saying you won't need a 17" laptop anymore. 

 

I do agree with them also dropping the 13". I know its the best selling laptop, but they already have a 13" MBA which will essentially be the same thing. I see them merging these two laptop lines together. Basically you'l have 11, 13, 15" all with retina displays, USB 3, Thunderbolt, no optical drive, and backlit keyboards. 


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post #70 of 196

I hope this rumor is untrue. I've been waiting for a refresh to purchase a new 17" MacBook Pro to replace my old 2009 model. I use a 17" MBP since I do a lot of work from home and on-the-go.

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Originally Posted by Smallwheels 
Killing the 17" MBP makes sense. The smaller Mac Book Pros are now powerful enough to power big monitors and do all the work the 17" could do.

 

*coughactualgraphicscough*

 

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In twenty-five years we'll be able to purchase giant monitors that roll up into cylinders like posters. Those will be very portable and will fit anywhere.

 

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post #72 of 196

 

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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

Maybe something all new...

 

12" = MacBook

14" = MacBook Air

16" = MacBook Pro


 

 


I was thinking along the same lines, just a little more than what you were thinking, but a lot less than they have now.

 

11 - MacAir

13 - MacAir

14 - MacPro

16 - MacPro

 

Only difference between Air and Pro besides size would be upgradeable/replaceable memory.

 

I had a 13 MacPro, and it was quite small (I gave it to my daughter).  I believe the screen real estate in the 13 MacAir is more.  My wife had the 15, but I got her the 17 (she loves the big high res screen), so I took over her 15.  The 13 was too small for me and the 15 is a bit big, but a 14 high res would be perfect, for my wife a 16 would be perfect.  Also, why would Apple carry so many SKU's?  As margins may fall for them, they could reduce cost by shrinking the line-up.  The internals of the 15 and 17 are the same, so no performance differences.

post #73 of 196

They'll probably change the name of the product rather than discontinue it.  That is usually used by the professional crowd that's into audio/video/graphics/photographers/gamers.

 

I can understand that for the average power user doesn't want to carry around the 17 inch model, but if they are going to remove the optical drive and make it slimmer, that might make it more attractive.

 

Personally, for me, I would be looking at a Mac Mini to use as a dedicated media server, either a 15 inch laptop and an iPad.  The 17 inch is great, but it is just a little too much for me to carry around.  But then again, I don't need the large amount of screen real estate for mobile computing.  I wish they would put their best processor (whatever the Ivy Bridge is going to be called) in the Mac Mini along with the ability to throw 16G of memory in it.  To me, having that along with a Thunderbolt display and connecting it to a nice 50 inch TV is all I would need for the home.  They would probably have to make the motherboard a little bigger, but it would still be small.

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Originally Posted by nht View Post

 

 

Well an aTV + AirParrot can do that for you today for any HDTV.  And of course that's a feature for ML.  The aTV, like the little AirPort Express would be in my travel bag.

 

But what will make it really useful are higher resolutions TVs which I think we'll see at some point even if broadcast stays at 720P/1080i.  What's an "ML" (I'm bad at acronyms)?


 

post #75 of 196

They might not be able to get a "retina" display in a 17 or bigger just yet.  They might be limited on the 17inch model.

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Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post
What's an "ML" (I'm bad at acronyms)?

 

Mountan Lion.

 

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They might not be able to get a "retina" display in a 17 or bigger just yet.  They might be limited on the 17inch model.

 

They're not going to put retina displays on any of them… Next year at the earliest.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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I hope this news is true. The 17" MacBook Pro annoys me. These are supposed to be portable machines ffs. Consumers don't want to carry these huge laptops around with them. 15" should be the maximum.


I do. I need the space to do 3D modeling etc.
If this is true( I doubt it), I will be disappointed in apple and they will lose any shot of ever having my business for computers.

Here is a scale image of the 17" and 15" next to a 24" monitor:

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The 15" and 17" aren't all that different in size. You get 30% more viewing area (130sqi vs 100 sqi) for $300 and it's still a TN panel. For that same $300, you can get a 24" IPS display with 276sqi of viewing area - more than double the 17" display and a high quality panel for colour accuracy.

The 17" does have the high resolution of 1920 x 1200 but even if they ship the 15" with the high-res option by default (1680 x 1050), that's the same pixel density. If they sort out resolution independence, they can get 1920 x 1200 on it.

I think it actually makes the least sense to discontinue the 17" now that it's becoming more portable but Apple has to think about shipping volumes and manufacturing costs. They have to mill the chassis differently so cutting it out of the lineup will save them money. As usual, this is just what an analyst thinks will happen. The only difference between him and us is he gets paid for it. If they did decide to cut it out due to low demand though, now would be the time to do it.
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I hope this rumor is untrue. I've been waiting for a refresh to purchase a new 17" MacBook Pro to replace my old 2009 model. I use a 17" MBP since I do a lot of work from home and on-the-go.

 

There's some really good deals on the 17" Sandy Bridge line up now (30% off) - delivered (no tax, free overnight shipping) for just over $1700, almost $800 off.

 

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Right.  Back in 2006 I imagine.

 

Har har.

Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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