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A new rumor claims Apple is planning to release iPhoto '12 on the Mac App Store this summer, with the new software bringing some of the features of iPhoto for iOS to the Mac.

The rumor comes from anonymous sources who spoke with the Dutch website Apple Weetjes, which does not have an extensive track record with respect to Apple rumors. It said the new version the photo editing software will be "largely inspired" by the newly released iPhoto for iOS.

The new iPhoto '12 will reportedly allow users to create a photo album and share it via iCloud. This would replace the MobileMe gallery function currently found in iPhoto.

In addition, iPhoto '12 is also rumored to allow users to easily transfer pictures from iOS devices with iPhoto installed. In this way, users could quickly edit and share photos between their Mac and iOS devices.

The report also said that photo retouching in iPhoto '12 for Mac will be "inspired by iOS." It said the new version will be available on OS X 10.7 Lion or OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion, but will not run on OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard.

iPhoto for iOS was launched on the App Store in March, and was introduced alongside the third-generation iPad. It was dubbed by Apple as a "reinvention" of the preexisting iPhoto for Mac.

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Apple revealed last month that it had sold more than a million copies of iPhoto for iOS in less than 10 days of availability. It is available for $4.99 on the iOS App Store, and is compatible with both the iPhone and iPad.

On the Mac, iPhoto was last updated in October of 2010 along with iMovie and GarageBand in the iLife '11 software suite. All three applications come free with every new Mac, while existing users can purchase the latest versions from the Mac App Store for $14.99 each.
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The features they are talking about, I think, are a given for an update. I even think we might find updates to both versions that would allow you to use your iPad or iPhone as a kind of touchscreen for the computer version. So if I want to 'paint' an effect on a photo I could do it on my iPad but it's the photo on the computer being changed. And so on. The only one that I question from their list is the notion of beaming photos from iOS to Mac. We can in effect do that via iCloud already so I'm not certain that Apple will be in a rush to add direct access in a 'wifi sync' kind of way. 

 

What I also question is if this will be a new version of the software. I ask this because it would then require users to buy all over again and I'm not sure that Apple will do that. Especially since they have to buy again just to get the iOS version. There has always been a school of thought that Apple really makes their money on the hardware not the software so I could see them just dropping the numbers and simply having iPhoto for Mac and this is another point release you get for free 

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Why not just kill OSX all at once?  Why this slow and painful transition to iOS on the desktop?

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Hope something here is true. I don't want to have to move to Flickr.

 

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Why not just kill OSX all at once?  Why this slow and painful transition to iOS on the desktop?

 

Just to clarify for the people who don't know who you are, that's not what Apple's doing. For heaven's sake.

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Originally Posted by charlituna View PostWhat I also question is if this will be a new version of the software. I ask this because it would then require users to buy all over again and I'm not sure that Apple will do that.

 

Why?  Every single version of iLife has always been a paid upgrade for users.  The initial version you get comes included with the hardware, but upgrades to the software, like the OS pretty much have always been paid.

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The new iPhoto '12 will reportedly allow users to create a photo album and share it via iCloud. This would replace the MobileMe gallery function currently found in iPhoto.

 

Yes please to this - I also hope that the new iPhoto will be able to less clumsily manage multiple libraries - I'd love to be able to see all my libraries and switch from one to the other without having to restart. 

 

I hope they loose the graphic display of phoney 'albums' as per IOS. 

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The features they are talking about, I think, are a given for an update. I even think we might find updates to both versions that would allow you to use your iPad or iPhone as a kind of touchscreen for the computer version. So if I want to 'paint' an effect on a photo I could do it on my iPad but it's the photo on the computer being changed. And so on. The only one that I question from their list is the notion of beaming photos from iOS to Mac. We can in effect do that via iCloud already so I'm not certain that Apple will be in a rush to add direct access in a 'wifi sync' kind of way. 

 

What I also question is if this will be a new version of the software. I ask this because it would then require users to buy all over again and I'm not sure that Apple will do that. Especially since they have to buy again just to get the iOS version. There has always been a school of thought that Apple really makes their money on the hardware not the software so I could see them just dropping the numbers and simply having iPhoto for Mac and this is another point release you get for free 


Dead on. The "wifi sync" already exists. And has a name. PhotoStream. Then again, they could pull the beam function to allow users to share that easy too.

I am torn on the paid upgrade. In the MAS, I believe it is just iPhoto - though I could be wrong. That would imply a free upgrade. As you said, not their cash lifeline. Though this could be the first MAS exclusive version, and therefore, be a paid upgrade for everyone, then be free updates in the future.
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Why not just kill OSX all at once?  Why this slow and painful transition to iOS on the desktop?

 

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I'm still hoping we'll see new versions of iLife and iWork alongside the new MacBooks, which hopefully won't be too long now.
 

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Why not just kill OSX all at once?  Why this slow and painful transition to iOS on the desktop?

 

 

Yeah, God forbid Apple create some consistency and high level of integration between their OSes. And apprently, this to you and other mindless trolls is called 'killing OSX' even when OSX is getting ADDED features with each release, and is getting more powerful and not less. 

 

Just out of curiosity, are you aware of what Microsoft is doing with Windows 8? You know, the whole massive tiles on a desktop thing?

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The features they are talking about, I think, are a given for an update. I even think we might find updates to both versions that would allow you to use your iPad or iPhone as a kind of touchscreen for the computer version. So if I want to 'paint' an effect on a photo I could do it on my iPad but it's the photo on the computer being changed. And so on. The only one that I question from their list is the notion of beaming photos from iOS to Mac. We can in effect do that via iCloud already so I'm not certain that Apple will be in a rush to add direct access in a 'wifi sync' kind of way. 

 

What I also question is if this will be a new version of the software. I ask this because it would then require users to buy all over again and I'm not sure that Apple will do that. Especially since they have to buy again just to get the iOS version. There has always been a school of thought that Apple really makes their money on the hardware not the software so I could see them just dropping the numbers and simply having iPhoto for Mac and this is another point release you get for free 


Presumably Aperture would get similar iCloud based galleries, hopefully with pro templates for business use rather than home style ones. I'd be happy to pay for this if it were reasonable.
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Why?  Every single version of iLife has always been a paid upgrade for users.  The initial version you get comes included with the hardware, but upgrades to the software, like the OS pretty much have always been paid.

 

 

You are right. I was going to say same thing.
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Why not just kill OSX all at once?  Why this slow and painful transition to iOS on the desktop?

 

 

Yeah, God forbid Apple create some consistency and high level of integration between their OSes. And apprently, this to you and other mindless trolls is called 'killing OSX' even when OSX is getting ADDED features with each release, and is getting more powerful and not less. 

 

Just out of curiosity, are you aware of what Microsoft is doing with Windows 8? You know, the whole massive tiles on a desktop thing?


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Just out of curiosity, are you aware of what Microsoft is doing with Windows 8? You know, the whole massive tiles on a desktop thing?

 

So far, I'm not a fan of Windows 8.  I'll try to keep an open mind, but so far, I think that I will hate it.

 

IMO, what M$ is doing with the integration of the desktop with their mobile OS is similar to what Apple is doing.  I don't like it in either case, as I am not a fan of either iOS or WinMobile.

 

ISTM that OSX is an extremely better OS than iOS, and I see no reason to merge the two in any manner.  

 

ISTM that M$ is trying to bolster thier mobile OS by merging the two.  I see no reason for Apple to follow this route, given the success of iOS.  

 

Dumbing down the desktop is no way for 'Apple to proceed, IMO.  Leave good enough alone.  

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I want to see Apple get away from the mother ship approach with Photos like it did with iTunes Match and work everything out of iCloud.  I should be able to assign photos from various devices to folders that would sync everywhere.

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Dumbing down the desktop is no way for 'Apple to proceed, IMO.  Leave good enough alone.  

 

You may not like that the two are becoming closer aligned but I don't see it as 'dumbing down'. IOS is less fully featured, but I don't see that happening with OSX. If the new iPhoto was to become like the IOS version it would in fact become more fully featured.

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Seems like they could maybe even take a cue or to from (almost pains me to say)... Adobe.  Would there be a use for using an iPad to control or manipulate photos in the OSX version of iPhoto?

 

Another idea... a lot of people are taking pictures.  Many of those are bad pictures.  What about integrating lessons into iPhoto much like Garage Band?  How hard would smart technology be that could assess a photo that is imported and give tips to the user on how they could improve the photo?

 

Finally, not directly related... but I think it is high time that Apple consider including GarageBand, iPhoto, and iMovie with every iPad purchased.  A killer trifecta of content creation apps.

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Another idea... a lot of people are taking pictures.  Many of those are bad pictures.  What about integrating lessons into iPhoto much like Garage Band?  How hard would smart technology be that could assess a photo that is imported and give tips to the user on how they could improve the photo?

 

 

 

 

That would be brilliant.  There's many things that could be detected via software and suggestions could be made.

 

Things like "The backlighting is so strong that the faces are shadowed.  Try retaking with a darker background so the subjects are brighter."  or "you have centered the subject.  Try putting the subject 1/3 of the way into the frame instead for a stronger composition."  

 

I don't know if AI is good enough yet to be of a lot of help, but maybe some basic stuff could be done.

 

How about "The whole scene is beige.  A brighly colored object could be a focal point"?  or "everything is small.  Try zooming in on some objets, in order to provide a stronger subject and less visual clutter"?  Is that stuff possible yet?

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How about the simple ability to email an address book group a MobileMe Gallery???

(or how about a long term replacement for MobileMe Gallery???)

(older people I know love MobileMe Gallery but hate Facebook and the alternatives Apple is pushing.)

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Good points. I am interested in a replacement for iWeb. Any word on that…at all? Seems NO ONE has a viable replacement with the feature set, ease of use and integration that Apple demonstrated with iWeb. 

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Good points. I am interested in a replacement for iWeb. Any word on that…at all? Seems NO ONE has a viable replacement with the feature set, ease of use and integration that Apple demonstrated with iWeb. 


Totally agree with you there. For simple stuff it is great.
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I thinkI got a lot out of its capabilities on my extensive nature website (www.njnaturenotes.com). There IS a lot you can do with it if you're creative. What's the alternative with this ease of use and integration? 

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Apple needs to fix iPhoto for iOS.  Manually-changed dates entered on the Mac version of iPhoto don't come across to the iOS version.

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Just to clarify for the people who don't know who you are, that's not what Apple's doing. For heaven's sake.

 

Well it does look as though Apple is transitioning away from the pro app Aperture in favor of this consumer friendly, featureless (pro features that is) app. 

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Yep, an update to iPhoto is a given, although where the heck the new version of iWork got to I'll never know, talk about long in the tooth......

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That would be brilliant.  There's many things that could be detected via software and suggestions could be made.

 

Things like "The backlighting is so strong that the faces are shadowed.  Try retaking with a darker background so the subjects are brighter."  or "you have centered the subject.  Try putting the subject 1/3 of the way into the frame instead for a stronger composition."  

 

I don't know if AI is good enough yet to be of a lot of help, but maybe some basic stuff could be done.

 

How about "The whole scene is beige.  A brighly colored object could be a focal point"?  or "everything is small.  Try zooming in on some objets, in order to provide a stronger subject and less visual clutter"?  Is that stuff possible yet?

 

Because there are a million YouTube videos out there that explain this as well as free tutorials. Why make an already not great app that much worse? Not a smart idea...

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He did nothing to deserve an infraction. It's a valid question.  Get off your power trip or people will find a blog where the mods don't need to get over themselves.

 

 

 

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He did nothing to deserve an infraction. It's a valid question.

 

I seriously hope you're joking, considering the source and the context.

 

 

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I seriously hope you're joking. lol.gif You want to talk "power trip mods", talk about MacRumors' mods.

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They just added the beam wifi feature to iPhoto for iOS...allowing users to beam photos from an iOS device to any other device running iPhoto on the network.  Via wifi I can now transfer a single photo without using photo stream.  I am sure they will add this same feature to the new iPhoto.

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Presumably Aperture would get similar iCloud based galleries, hopefully with pro templates for business use rather than home style ones. I'd be happy to pay for this if it were reasonable.

 

I hope Aperture gets the ability to stream photos to the ATV just like iPhoto. While this feature may be more consumer based, I can see some Pros using it to display client pictures on a HDTV.

(Even better, stream photo galleries to the iPad)

 

The lack of this feature is the only thing that kept me from switching to Aperture ages ago. I use Aperture 3 now, but miss this feature.

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So even Apple is copying Apple.

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I hope Aperture gets the ability to stream photos to the ATV just like iPhoto. While this feature may be more consumer based, I can see some Pros using it to display client pictures on a HDTV.

(Even better, stream photo galleries to the iPad)

 

The lack of this feature is the only thing that kept me from switching to Aperture ages ago. I use Aperture 3 now, but miss this feature.

 

How would a pro do this without their client having an ATV? I tend to keep my photos on my iPad and use the "Retina Display" as the viewing device. Again, why make a complicated app even more complicated? In case you missed it Aperture is a resource hog and is miles behind Lightroom at this moment. Unless Apple releases a major upgrade to Aperture soon, I am afraid I will have to move over to Adobe which seems to view their pro apps as viable.

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Why not just kill OSX all at once?  Why this slow and painful transition to iOS on the desktop?

 

There is plenty to differentiate the two OSs. iOS is after all a subset of OS X with some touch specific controls that don't really make sense for OS X.

 

I have differing uses for both and have owned a Mac since Early Mar 1984. It has changed a lot and is a powerhouse now. iOS is not intended to be able to manage projects within projects or multi-million lines of code compiles.

 

I think you are way off base in saying " Why this slow and painful transition to iOS on the desktop?".

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How would a pro do this without their client having an ATV? I tend to keep my photos on my iPad and use the "Retina Display" as the viewing device. Again, why make a complicated app even more complicated? In case you missed it Aperture is a resource hog and is miles behind Lightroom at this moment. Unless Apple releases a major upgrade to Aperture soon, I am afraid I will have to move over to Adobe which seems to view their pro apps as viable.

 

I'm talking about clients who go into a Pro's office/showroom. Not a Pro who visits a client in their home/workplace.

 

How is viewing the photos on ATV, ala iPhoto, making Aperture more complicated? 

 

While Aperture may be a resource hog, it works well enough for our needs (I'm not a pro), especially with plugins from Topaz labs.

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I'm talking about clients who go into a Pro's office/showroom. Not a Pro who visits a client in their home/workplace.

 

How is viewing the photos on ATV, ala iPhoto, making Aperture more complicated? 

 

While Aperture may be a resource hog, it works well enough for our needs (I'm not a pro), especially with plugins from Topaz labs.

 

Sorry for the delay to your reply. Was a bit busy...

 

1.Fair enough but usually I have seen most situations where a client might see your site and you go to THEIR office with your portfolio. But okay.

2. I see Aperture as one massive resource hog. It just is. Has been this way from day one it seems. Adding anything to it will only make it worse.

3. Aperture is missing some major features that LR has that are needed by pros, advanced enthusiast, etc... Aperture is simply not up to LR's standard...

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Sorry for the delay to your reply. Was a bit busy...

 

1.Fair enough but usually I have seen most situations where a client might see your site and you go to THEIR office with your portfolio. But okay.

2. I see Aperture as one massive resource hog. It just is. Has been this way from day one it seems. Adding anything to it will only make it worse.

3. Aperture is missing some major features that LR has that are needed by pros, advanced enthusiast, etc... Aperture is simply not up to LR's standard...

 

I found that Aperture does indeed stream to the ATV. You need to go to the Advanced Menu option in iTunes and under "Choose Photos to Share" you can select Aperture.

Not that obvious, but it's there. 

 

As for resources, I've found that Aperture has used up to 8GBs of my 12GB memory. Hasn't been an issue yet, but it will be interesting to see what happens when I import 46,000 images into it. :-)

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