Samsung confirms quad-core processor for next flagship Galaxy smartphone

I really don't think that you can treat phones the way that computers used to be treated with these spec wars. It's a phone... if it works well then that's all the customer will worry about. It's going to be a very small percentage of customers who actually give a shit about how fast it runs.

jmho

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider 

Samsung on Thursday confirmed that a new Galaxy S Smartphone set to be unveiled next week running a half-baked, inefficient, power-sapping Android OS necessitates using a quad-core Exynos 4 Quad processor.

Fixed that for you Samesung.  Thank me later.

Nothing to read here.  Move along.

I love how they tried to build hype with cheap shot video. Guess anyone who falls for Samsung cheap marketing deserved it.

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Originally Posted by island hermit 

I really don't think that you can treat phones the way that computers used to be treated with these spec wars. It's a phone... if it works well then that's all the customer will worry about. It's going to be a very small percentage of customers who actually give a shit about how fast it runs.

 

jmho

Really.  The war of specs ended long ago but is still kept alive by the fandroid community.  Since their horrible Android systems can't compete with Apple's polished and complete product, they feel the need to feed their pathetic egos by hyping something that the rest of the world truly doesn't care about.

But heck, it keeps the giggle-factor and face-palm gags going. 

LMAO don't get your panties in a bunch fb's.

From the article "Apple is expected to counter its rivals with its own quad-core A-series processor later this year."

What will you say about quad-core when this happens LOL.
 

Samsung is gonna hope to put one up on Apple and it's dual core A5 chip iPhone 4s.  We will have to see but I will predict that the next generation iPhone will not have a quad core chip but will have a Dual core A5X.  I really don't see the benefit of a Quad core A6 chip in a smart phone as of yet.  Competing on a Core based processor in a phone just doesn't make sense.

Did they really need to take a stab at the Apple-loving masses by showing a flock/herd of sheep at the end? So frickin' high school.

(I really wish I had the option of throwing a "no" or "roll eyes" emoticon at the end of my sentence. It sure has made this board vanilla and lifeless.)

"The South Korean consumer electronics maker has been teasing the upcoming Galaxy device ahead of a(n) ... Unpacked event in London on May 3."

As opposed to Apple events, which are always packed to the rafters.

And it will have a 6 inch screen and 2 minute battery life. 

This is called jumping the tech shark. 

But will it run Crisis Core?

Samesung's video is in BAD TASTE...as always!

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Originally Posted by sflocal 

 

 

Really.  The war of specs ended long ago but is still kept alive by the fandroid community.  Since their horrible Android systems can't compete with Apple's polished and complete product, they feel the need to feed their pathetic egos by hyping something that the rest of the world truly doesn't care about.

But heck, it keeps the giggle-factor and face-palm gags going. 

Lest you forget, Apple is one of the, if not the, biggest players in the war of specs. Their Ax processors have always been among the top of the line when released, and largest in terms of die size/transistor count. If anything, Apple is a big force in keeping the spec wars alive.

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Originally Posted by island hermit 

I really don't think that you can treat phones the way that computers used to be treated with these spec wars. It's a phone... if it works well then that's all the customer will worry about. It's going to be a very small percentage of customers who actually give a shit about how fast it runs.

 

jmho

The same is true about computers... as long as you have enough power to do your e-mail, web browsing, and word processing, the majority of people using it will be satisfied. That said theses "spec wars" are a good thing to the industry as a whole; they drive (at least the hardware side) the technology forward. With Intel recently entering the picture (with a very compelling SoC I might add), it seems to me the spec wars are only going to intensify going forward.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX 

Twice the "performance" while using 20% less power is great but unfortunately they are probably going to advertise the hell out of it being quad-core. I wonder what people will think when dual-core Cortex-A15 has even higher performance and uses even less power?

I know a lot of people who are going to be disappointed in this, as they were expecting the GS3 to have an A-15 based SoC.

edit: BTW, why is this filed in the Genius Bar?

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Originally Posted by Splash-reverse 


Apple will only give out stuffs (products, specs, etc) when they are absolutely ready and the benefits really requires it. By that time, when Apple is finally using quad core processors, Android OS has getting too big and sluggish it necessitate their HW to be using a full scale desktop CPU to runs it.

Do you not believe quad cores are ready for prime time then? Are you basing that belief on anything other than the fact that Apple hasn't done it yet?

Assuming core 2 and 3 can be power gated (tegra 3 does this), and assuming that the Samsung claims of increased performance with decreased energy usage are true, what is your objection to the inclusion of a quad core on a smartphone?

edit: and with regards to utilization, here's what Anandtech had to say in regards to tegra 3 and android:

Speaking to spec wars. I've been following the computer industry since 1970, phones for the last 10 years, and Apple since they started and I can tell you the spec war was alive and well then and it will still be in the year 2525. Where did people here ever get the idea that specs don't matter. Loyal Apple fans wait holding their breath to see what new power specs Apple will put into its products next. So go for it Samsung. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ljocampo 

Speaking to spec wars. I've been following the computer industry since 1970, phones for the last 10 years, and Apple since they started and I can tell you the spec war was alive and well then and it will still be in the year 2525. Where did people here ever get the idea that specs don't matter. Loyal Apple fans wait holding their breath to see what new power specs Apple will put into its products next. So go for it Samsung. :rolleyes:

Bullshit. The spec war is dead. It's only alive on tech blogs, message boards, and a tiny percentage of people who factor it into buying decisions. If you step back, you'll realiza that the majority of people couldnt give a shit as long as it runs well and functions smoothly. Real world performance manners. And that depends on a variety of variables, specs being just one of them. It's why most android phones, even the highest end ones, can't even scroll smoothly and have inconsistent performance. trust me, I've tried almost all of them. 

It doesn't matter how long you've been following the computer industry. You're completely out of touch if you think marketing specs is really relevant anymore. It means nothing, because historically 'underpowered' Apple products perform better than anything else out there. 

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Originally Posted by majjo 

 

 

Lest you forget, Apple is one of the, if not the, biggest players in the war of specs. Their Ax processors have always been among the top of the line when released, and largest in terms of die size/transistor count. If anything, Apple is a big force in keeping the spec wars alive.

 

Nonsense.  Apple is not competing against the other players.  They are competing against themselves.  If they can get the more performance from a quad-core chip, all the while keeping they die-size the same (if not smaller), with the same (if not better) battery life - regardless of what competitors like Samsung are using - they will do it and not even bother marketing the specs to the public at large.  It's what they do.  They let the all-around performance speak for itself.  The only ones making a deal of specs - besides fandroids - are the manufacturers because they know they can't compete with Apple on anything else, including the usability of their handset.  It's what they do and it's a pathetic and sad attempt to mislead the public.

I lost track how many times Apple got skewered for not using a quad-core CPU in the 4s or their new iPad3, even though the performance of each was as fast or faster than whatever quad-core, or higher Ghz nonsense the other players were using.  Funny how most fandroids conveniently scurry to the back of the discussion forums and keep quiet when they are consistently proven wrong, only for them to come out of their holes again and spew more fabrications when the smoke clears.

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Originally Posted by ljocampo 

Speaking to spec wars. I've been following the computer industry since 1970, phones for the last 10 years, and Apple since they started and I can tell you the spec war was alive and well then and it will still be in the year 2525. Where did people here ever get the idea that specs don't matter. Loyal Apple fans wait holding their breath to see what new power specs Apple will put into its products next. So go for it Samsung. :rolleyes:

The most profitable consumer segment made the specs irrelevant.  Apple's commercials don't talk about specs.  Apple talks about using it in the real world.  Everyone I know using an iPhone couldn't care less about what specs are.  They all know that they love their handset for ease-of-use, speed, and polish.  They don't care that "speed" is provided by a single, dual, or quad, or oct-core CPU.  If its fast, they're happy.

I've followed the computer industry since the late 70's, became a software developer in the 80's and continue to this day.  Polished, efficient code that Apple has will always trump the bloated, botched code that Android is made of.  It's why they need higher specs than the current iPhone to barely make it comparable in speed to a clocked-down iPhone.  That's the reality.

What's important is efficient code.  When Apple does make a quad-core iPhone, Samesung will then advertise a higher-clocked CPU or hexacore phone that will still run slower than what Apple has.  So technically, it's everyone else that's keeping the spec wars going and Apple is simply cruising along the highway while watching everyone else causing pile-ups due to ignorance.
 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57385358-94/huawei-our-ascend-d-quad-is-worlds-fastest-smartphone/

Huawei: Our Ascend D Quad is world's fastest smartphone

Mobile World Congress kicks off with a bang as Huawei unveiled its first quad-core ICS handset, called the Ascend D Quad.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX 

Twice the "performance" while using 20% less power is great but unfortunately they are probably going to advertise the hell out of it being quad-core.

You mean the same way Apple advertised the A5X as being a Quad Core GPU?

This is great and all, but five bucks says AT&T gimps it, and sticks it with the dual core snapdragon Qualcomm proc like they did the HTC One X.
 

They lifted the music from Mass Effect 2 - Sammy can't do anything original

CPU cores are only part of the equation. Because Apple designs their own SoC and develops the OS, they can optimize the hell out of both of them. This includes offloading tasks to GPUs and any other specialized processors they may need. For instance, the inclusion of an ISP in the A5 for realtime video processing. This is the direction I believe Apple will move their SoCs, rather than stuffing more CPU cores into a device that really doesn't need it. Of course most people will start complaining how Apple is falling behind in specs, but in real world performance it won't be an issue. Comparing specs of different mobile platforms is just a waste of time as software across different platforms may need different resources.

And as for Apple also touting specs when they release new products, they also explain the benefits and why it is important. They don't throw up a list of specs for the sake of filling up a checklist.

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Originally Posted by sflocal 

 

 

Nonsense.  Apple is not competing against the other players.  They are competing against themselves.  If they can get the more performance from a quad-core chip, all the while keeping they die-size the same (if not smaller), with the same (if not better) battery life - regardless of what competitors like Samsung are using - they will do it and not even bother marketing the specs to the public at large.  It's what they do.  They let the all-around performance speak for itself.  The only ones making a deal of specs - besides fandroids - are the manufacturers because they know they can't compete with Apple on anything else, including the usability of their handset.  It's what they do and it's a pathetic and sad attempt to mislead the public.
 

 

And this is exactly what Samsung is claiming:

And Apple markets their specs just as much as anyone else.

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They lifted the music from Mass Effect 2 - Sammy can't do anything original

Check out this list of music Apple "lifted" for their commercials LOL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_used_by_Apple_Inc.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 

Is the average consumer who buys a phone even going to know what the heck quad core means?

Apple fanboys probably think consumers do not care about the number of cores, since Apple lags behind in the numbers of cores.

But if Apple releases a quad core phone first, all Apple fanboys will be cheering.

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Originally Posted by peter236 

Apple fanboys probably think consumers do not care about the number of cores, since Apple lags behind in the numbers of cores.

But if Apple releases a quad core phone first, all Apple fanboys will be cheering.

Fanboys say a lot of stuff... no doubt about that.  But let's forget about them for a minute and focus on what's really selling.

Did the iPhone become the #1 selling phone on many carriers because of the number of cores it has? NO.

The iPhone 4 is single core... the iPhone 4S is dual-core... and the next iPhone will probably be quad-core.

But that's not WHY people buy them...

My wife's iPhone 4 makes and receives calls great.  My iPhone 4S makes and receives calls great.  Reception is better than old sanyo flip phone in same areas.

This is what a phone is simply about.  And it does other cool stuff too.

No one is doing movie editing in HD or burning DVDs or processing Photoshop graphics on the phone are they?  What the hell do all the specs in the phone matter.  Only to idiots does this matter.  IT'S A PHONE!!!

Apple's commercials exemplify this fact.  They are real world usage commercials.  They don't talk screen size, chip size, chip speeds, or graphic chips.  All other manufacturers do advertise this in commercials.

iPad 3 only promotes the incredible new display which makes all your viewing much nicer.  Not that the pixel density is this and that and better than the other tablets.  They focus on what they offer and how it works for the consumer.

Only an idiot says Apple pushes specs.

Now to fight the idiots who keep downgrading my damn stocks.

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Apple needs to buy a network. In 4 or 5 generations they'll have the perfect hardware/software combo for iphone and ipad. So many of their products rely on a reliable connection that they shouldn't allow themselves to be at the mercy of the service providers.

Agreed.  They need to spend that cash horde on a new network that would BLOW AWAY AT&T, VERIZON, and Sprint.  I WOULD SWITCH!

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX 

Twice the "performance" while using 20% less power is great but unfortunately they are probably going to advertise the hell out of it being quad-core. I wonder what people will think when dual-core Cortex-A15 has even higher performance and uses even less power?

I seem to recall "QUAD CORE" being rather prominent in the launch of the new iPad.

Cake and eat it.

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Originally Posted by Hoss 

Apple needs to buy a network. In 4 or 5 generations they'll have the perfect hardware/software combo for iphone and ipad. So many of their products rely on a reliable connection that they shouldn't allow themselves to be at the mercy of the service providers.

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Originally Posted by djkikrome 

Agreed.  They need to spend that cash horde on a new network that would BLOW AWAY AT&T, VERIZON, and Sprint.  I WOULD SWITCH!

T-Mobile US was apparently worth $39 billion... and that's the smallest nationwide network in the United States. Good buy?  Yes or No?

Even if they bought it... how much would they spend in upgrades? 

And let's not forget China, India, all of Europe, and the rest of the 70 countries across the globe.

Apple's $110 billion dollars wouldn't even make a dent...

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Originally Posted by MJ4Ev3r 

Samesung's video is in BAD TASTE...as always!

I can't decide which promo is worse. Microsoft's"funeral" for the iPhone or this one.

..and the basic message seem to always say "we have no imagination". Or, "we are willing to go into bankruptcy spending millions, even billions, in litigation but not a single cent into finding out who we really are and the amazing things we can do".

What do you think about this commercial?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSTOHmxb7PY

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Originally Posted by MHD 

LMAO don't get your panties in a bunch fb's.

 

From the article "Apple is expected to counter its rivals with its own quad-core A-series processor later this year."

 

What will you say about quad-core when this happens LOL.
 

One thing that might be said is that programming for Android to take advantage of four cores is exceedingly difficult. Apple has simplified this with GCD, so it's more likely you'll see iOS Apps that can actually use four cores when needed.

guess the battery will now only last 30 mins. These guys make horrible phones, my girlfriend had to send one back after a couple of days when she realised she would need to charge it during the day even before using 3G or wifi. lame...

Verizon's market cap is $110B. Apple could buy them in cash!  ;)