Samsung reportedly behind mock protest flashmob at Apple Store - Page 4

 

 

It's adobe behind it still pushing flash for iOS. ;-)

 

 

You, sir, are *not nice*.  Please find http://www.androidinsider.com please.

Edited by djkikrome - 4/26/12 at 8:54pm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please explain.

 

He stated that Samsung is doing well.  Not great.  Well.  In comparison to the competition that seems a fair judgement as their market share is growing and their profit share is second only to Apple although only a fraction of Apple profits.

 

Regarding the stolen IP, there are examples of authorities agreeing with said statement.  In August 2011, the Landgericht court in Dusseldorf Germany granted Apple's request for an EU-wide preliminary injunction barring Samsung from selling its Galaxy Tab v10.1 device on the grounds Samsung's product infringed on two of Apple's interface patents.  After Samsung's allegations of evidence tampering were heard, the court rescinded the EU-wide injunction and granted Apple a lesser injunction that only applied to the German market.  There are a number of lawsuits, trade complaints, and countersuits and complaints based on patents and designs in the markets for smartphones, and devices based on smartphone OSes  such as Android and iOS.

 

Apple does not appear to be faltering based on their recently released figures of quarterly revenue of $39.19 billion with a 94% rise in earnings to $11.6 billion or $12.30 per diluted share.  Apple gross margin was 47.4 percent compared to 41.4 percent in the year-ago quarter.  Furthermore, Apple sold 35.1 million iPhones in the quarter, representing 88 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 11.8 million iPads during the quarter, a 151 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter. Additionally, Apple sold 4 million Macs during the quarter, a 7 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter.

 

I fail to see the flaw in his statement.

Edited by MacBook Pro - 4/26/12 at 8:53pm

At first I thought this was pathetic and annoying, but after watching the video, I love it! Not for the reason you might think. Halfway through the video I noticed the juxtaposition of the people in the store and the mob outside - inside Apple was making money, and outside Samsung was wasting money! It's just like their phones and tablets, Apple is business as usual, and Samsung is all hype.

 

 

If there was never a problem with the antenna then Steve would never have said, "Just avoid holding it in that way."

 

 

Anybody that has an iphone 4 I suggest you go here and register for the iphone4 settlement.

This is nothing compared to the kind of stuff Samsung does in Korea.  They have workers in semiconductor plant dying from lukemia and they complete deny that it's work related.   They kidnap people when the workers try to form a union.  They were named by Green peace as the third worst company in the world.

 

 

Wow, you are very clever.

 

 

Apple had explosions at their ipad factories killing and injuring many.  When a worker lost an iphone, security guards went to the employee's residence and roughed him up. The next day he committed suicide. 

Greenpeace gave Apple low marks and criticized it for its reliance on coal-based power.

So Samsung is going after Apple users for being mindless conformists, yet they do it in a way that requires all participants to dress in identical clothing and chant in unison. Right.....

 

See I would appreciate this kind of activity if the protestors actually represented a homegrown, almost mom & pop company picketing the giant machine. It's kind of like whenever Walmart announces plans to build a new store somewhere in small town USA there are always protestors who are small business owners, and you feel for them because Walmart is guaranteed to wipe out their sales. But this is friggin' Samsung. This protest wasn't dreamt up as a means to save a near-bankrupt small local business. This is a bunch of out-of-touch Korean dudes in $4,000 suits sitting around a conference table looking for the fastest way to make a couple billion more bucks.

 

Samsung: We eat babies.

It's not apple owned factory but foxconn factory.  Apple doesn't directly run any factories.

 

 

It's not apple owned factory but foxconn factory.  Apple doesn't directly run any factories.

Why couldn't THEY walk into the glass?

 

 

 

Oh god, we all know apple doesn't own the factories, but they do control them. Apple has even pressured one vendor to stop building computers for a competitor.

Even Apple's own employees got the shaft from steve's "no-poach" agreements.

 

 

 

In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad

Jan 26, 2012

Apple typically asks suppliers to specify how much every part costs, how many workers are needed and the size of their salaries. Executives want to know every financial detail.  Afterward, Apple calculates how much it will pay for a part.  Most suppliers are allowed only the slimmest of profits.

 

So suppliers often try to cut corners, replace expensive chemicals with less costly alternatives, or push their employees to work faster and longer, according to people at those companies.

 

“The only way you make money working for Apple is figuring out how to do things more efficiently or cheaper,” said an executive at one company that helped bring the iPad to market. “And then they’ll come back the next year, and force a 10 percent price cut.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html

 

 

 

Apple reportedly squeezes Pegatron into ceasing ASUS ultrabook production

Feb 13, 2012

Apple has reportedly moved to curb the production of new ‘ultrabook’ portable computers by Taiwanese technology  giant ASUS, by forcing its manufacturing partner Pegatron to choose between production contracts for the two companies.

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/02/13/apple-reportedly-squeezes-pegatron-into-ceasing-asus-ultrabook-production/

 

 

 

No-poaching antitrust case against Apple, Google and others will go to trial

Apr 19, 2012

Apple, Google and five other technology companies must face anantitrust lawsuit for illegally agreeing to not poach each other’s employees.

http://news.yahoo.com/no-poaching-antitrust-case-against-apple-google-others-234525266.html

 

 

That is nothing compared to what Samsung does in Korea.  If any company does that kind of stuff in US, all the executives will be jail for life.

Apple never kidnapped anyone.  The Samsung CEO's son evaded taxes when he inherited his father's wealth.  Every one in Korea knows all this stuff.

The WHOLE thing seems fishy to me, even the VIDEO.

 

So this guy just happens to be testing out his microphone, manages to capture multiple panoramic viewing angles, goes home and edits the video with pretty tight cuts and posts it to YouTube????  I don't think so - this video has to be part of the campaign.   Whatever ad agency is responsible knew full well that a video with a flash mob in front of an Apple store would be passed around all the tech and Apple rumor sites.   And look -  here we are, all discussing and learning about the release of a new Samsung phone which I personally didn't have a clue about before reading this thread..  Good or bad, I don't know, but it is pretty clever marketing. 

Edited by solsun - 4/26/12 at 11:33pm

 

 

If it wasn't for our government and mainstream media to keep them in check, over zealous apple employees would come very close. Remember Cava22?

 

Do you know Apple has over $110 billion in cash in the bank?  Out of that, over $64 billion dollars is in overseas accounts and they want to avoid paying taxes on it. They want to bring that money into the US to "...create jobs and infuse cash into our struggling economy.", but they are complaining that the tax rate is too high so they won't. They won't do it unless the government gives them, and other rich companies, a "Tax Holiday", a tax break. The last time there was a tax holiday, 2004, the people that benefitted from it were far from unemployed or struggling in the economy. The money was spent on dividends and stock repurchases. The very things apple said they are going to do this July.

It's funny that Apple's competition continues to think that their sales are so low simply because customers are not aware of them. Their failure is partly down to their business model of using software developed by someone else and making poor hardware design choices.

Samsung's aim is to mimic Apple to the finest detail, implement their products with lower standards and then proclaim to the world that they are the next big thing and that customers are obviously either too stupid to realise it or oblivious to it.

Customers are a pretty discerning crowd, always trying to get the best quality for the lowest price. When Samsung sells a Galaxy Tab 10.1 for $50 more than an iPad 2, those discerning customers are not going to spend more money on a worse product.

The wake up call is for Apple's competition. For you to win, you don't need Apple to fail, you just need to do a better job. Good luck with that.

In general, I find chanting protests very awkward. You have to think after 20 seconds of saying the same thing, you're bound to feel a bit stupid because you've really made your point and beyond that you're just making a nuisance of yourself. It also makes them look lazy in that they haven't really thought out their message and how to follow through on it. Well, I'm sure they'll figure it out the long way.

Other possibilities:  "Wake up" alludes to / echoes the theme song to an Inconvenient Truth -- suggesting an environmental organization is protesting Apple. 

 

 

And that's the sad part of this ad campaign. If it wasn't for Samsung having their connection "leaked" to it no one would have any idea what happened and would just dismiss it as a random dumb protest by people complaining about Foxconn I bet.

 

I hope Samsung got a portion of their money back on this cause... ya they got ripped off.

 

 

Samsung just post a 98% profit jump on the same quarter last year, with the SGS III just about to be launched. I'm not a big Samsung fan, nor do I use an Android phone, but I don't think they are on the way out with those numbers.

I think it would be hilarious if a rumor went viral that this flashmob was actually an APPLE advertising stunt in anticipation of a new APPLE product. Imagine the reaction at Samsung HQ.

 

 

Pointing out that all antennas have similar problems is "drawing other mobile vendors" into it?

 

LOL.

 

Not to mention that the "antenna issues" was blown out of proportions by idiots you don't know physics. Apple sold like 50 millions of iPhone 4 and nobody complained of pour reception...

 

 

The money in overseas accounts has been earned overseas, it is not in some dodgy tax haven and the company has or will have to pay tax on the profit in the country where it has been earned.

In most advanced economies once tax has has been paid in the country it was earned, the net amount is allowed to repatriated to the 'home' country without further taxation. The US and a small number of other countries are notable exemptions to the status quo.

What Apple and other companies are bemoaning is that they are being asked to pay double taxation and at a rate that is equal to the rate as if the money had been made in the US.

This kind of tax policy is what has driven more large companies to move their headquarters and registration out of the US.

 

Apple has not threatened to do this or indicated it wishes to do this, just asked for some consideration that the money earned overseas has already been taxed and perhaps a lower figure might be more appropriate. It has stated publicly that it does not need a tax holiday to bring money in from overseas but a fair flat rate that is not so disadvantageous to it's shareholders. Remember that ultimately the board is answerable to it's shareholders and that is enshrined in company law.

 

The report to which you refer although damming when looked at on the surface did not take account of the circumstances of the individual companies that benefitted from the tax holiday in 2004. It was skewed as the majority of the money brought in was from a number of pharma companies which had significant problems already and this is partly why the lobbying was successful in the first place.

 

I would recommend that you do some detailed research before painting with such broad brush strokes.

 

 

Umm yeah because that's exactly what they did?...LOL

 

 

You *don't*.  It's usually a lazy ad hominem used to label, bin people and it's an invective chosen to shut down the discussion.  You might as well call people poopy-pants because it's not much more mature than that.

 

It is very possible to like a company's products without being unconditionally supportive.  For example, most posters here disagree with Apple on something on occasion.

 

 

Erm does that include "junk" made with Samsung components?

 

BTW next time get a Miele washing machine if you want quality, Electrolux are crap by comparison.

The funny thing here is that they're telling Apple to "Wake Up" when they're going to release a phone that will likely have huge specs but will still suck performance-wise at the OS level. Wake up guys! Your phone might be amazing spec-wise but the OS isn't taking advantage of it. I mean how can they have high-end Android phones with the specs they have and still have lag and input issues? I mean my friend's GSII is a great phone but whenever he shows me something on it and I have do scroll up or down it just doesn't feel anywhere near as fluid as my iPhone. Sometimes I even see him poking it several times just to get it to accept his tap. Android isn't Apple and thats why a lot of people like it. That's fine but why can't it at least be much more fluid and responsive to use? Apple shows that it's possible even with one core and much less RAM and megahertz on my old second gen iPod touch. 

 

Throwing more cores and megahertz at Android doesn't seem to fix everything. I'm an Apple fan who can respect the fact that other things might be better...those things just really haven't shown up yet. Apple screws up a lot of stuff and rightly takes flak for those things, but in general user experience is their forte and nobody else is really bringing much else to the table besides more cores and megahertz. It just won't cut it when the software isn't running on all cylinders. Tell Google to wake up and fix Android or wake yourself up and fork it to make it better. Otherwise the specs are just lipstick on a pig.

 

 

 

I don't know anyone that doesn't use a bumper/cover with an iphone 4 and I agree that the overall experience with a cover was deemed too little of an inconvenience to warrant demanding a refund or making an official complaint.

 

For what its worth, I thought that the whole AnntennaGate issue was handled very badly and that dragging other phones into the equation smacked of desperation and was tacky in the extreme.

Funny how the Fandroids have their panties in a wad because *gasp* some tech writers aren't too impressed with Samsung's marketing. Samsung is no underdog or upstart. It's a multi billion dollar corporation that sells as many if not more smartphones than Apple does. But yet it's the Apple fans who are sheep blindly following the cult of Apple. Couldn't we say all those who swear by Androidnare just following the cult of google?

 

 

Here's one prediction:

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/334276/20120427/samsung-galaxy-s3-variant-qualcomm-dualcore.htm

 

 

Full HD on a pocketable device sounds great.  I wonder what dpi that works out to?

 

The American versions will not be getting a quad core processor, according to reports, because they will have LTE.  The European models will not get LTE.

 

If the reports are true, it looks like a good solid phone.

 

Edited by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz - 4/27/12 at 7:21am

 

 

Fortunately for Apple, you're not making the decisions. Apple completely defused the issue and it turned out to be a non-issue for 99.99% of people. Apple's iPhone sales didn't stumble a bit, it continues to be rated the top phone on the market by most reviewers, and everyone's happy - except the shills who tried to make an issue out of it.

 

 

Who cares? It's still running a crappy OS with a lousy ecosystem. If results are anything like the last couple of years of history, a lot of people will be impressed with all the specs the sales person throws around, buy the phone, and then return it in 3 days after they realize it's a POS.

 

 

Samsung kidnapped some worker who tried to organize a union.  It was reported on tv in Korea.  What do yo have to say about that?

 

 

I have to say, "Link, please."

 

 

Here are some links.

 

http://stopsamsung.wordpress.com/what’s-wrong-with-samsung-‘no-union’-policy/

 

http://stopsamsung.wordpress.com/

 

http://scienceblogs.com/thepumphandle/2010/12/samsung_denies_worker_rights_-.php

 

 

Ok, I'll bite. Please do explain. We "need to get out more" where and doing what that would explain what "Wake Up" is supposed to mean to us.

 

From where I sit, It's awful lame. I don't get it either, but maybe I don't have the proper context to understand ... maybe because I'm not in Australia.

 

 

 

Apple completely defused the situation? In what way?

 

Do you mean the decision to settle the class action out of court?

 

Or the redesign of the antenna in the 4s?

 

Not sure how you can tell that Antenna-Gate had no influence on sales of the 4.

 

BTW highlighting a flaw doesn't make one a shill (insisting that everyone is, just makes you look paranoid) - Consumer Reports rates the 4s very highly and stressed that the 4s has no antenna issues. Given that Apple insisted that attenuation, as seen in the 4 is normal, are CR lying?

 

Yes. This obviously is the case. Never mind that the iPhone 4S has both GSM and CDMA in one device. You're obviously right, and we should all bow to your wisdom.

 

 

Not sure how you can tell it did.

 

I'm not sure you want an answer to that.

 

I got it! Wake Up and buy a new iPad. Awesome ad campaign Apple. Wow I wish Sams-flung thought of that! I guess they'll just have to copy it.

 

 

 

 

 

Ok have it your way.

 

All reports of antenna problems were orchestrated by "shills" who purchased the 4 just to fabricate imaginary problems.

 

Apple's decision to offer free bumpers was nothing more than a coincidence (as is the current out of court settlement).

 

 

Nokia intentionally built a connection flaw into the Lumia just so that they could fix it in a matter of days and offer those affected a $100. Darn those sneaky Fins, anything to make themselves look better than Apple