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Apple's next iPhone will be slightly taller to accommodate a 4-inch screen with a new aspect ratio, will feature a redesigned dock connector, and will also have a new metal panel on the back side, a new report claims.

The latest rumors about Apple's sixth-generation iPhone came on Thursday from iLounge, which said the new iPhone will be about 10 millimeters taller, giving it dimensions of 125 millimeters tall, 5.8 millimeters wide and 7.4 millimeters thick. That's about 2 millimeters thinner than the current iPhone 4S, with essentially the same width as the current model.

Because the new iPhone will allegedly be the same width, that would mean that new applications would need to be designed to work with the handset. The taller screen would have more pixels at the top and bottom, giving it a different aspect ratio.

"According to our source, Apple will make one major change to the rear casing, adding a metal panel to the central back of the new iPhone," the report said. "This panel will be flat, not curved, and metal, not ceramic."

Author Jeremy Horwitz also added that the new iPhone is expected to be partially made from Gorilla Glass 2, which offers identical strength to the original Gorilla Glass with a thinner design. At just 0.8 millimeters thick, Gorilla Glass 2 can withstand 121 pounds of pressure.

Finally, the report also claimed that the next iPhone will have a new, smaller dock connector that will be "a little larger" than the bottom speaker and microphone ports on the existing iPhone 4S. The new port was described as "a pill shape," and is believed to have just 16 pins, compared to the current 30-pin dock connector.

"It will be used in all upcoming devices, including an update to the iPod touch that's expected this year, and will almost certainly feature a similarly updated screen and CPU," the report said.

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In March, iLounge reported that Apple was working on a new case for the iPad that would protect not only the front screen, as the current magnetic Smart Case does, but also the aluminum back panel of the device. The site credited a "repeatedly reliable source," but such a case has not yet been released.

The rumors come on the heels of a new component claimed to be the SIM card tray for Apple's next-generation iPhone. A home button also purported to be from a prototype Apple handset also appeared, but no components thus far have given any concrete indication that the next iPhone's design will be a radical departure from the look of the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S.

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Still, there has been rampant speculation that Apple's next iPhone will have a redesigned exterior. Rumors of unibody enclosures, larger screens and thinner form factors have all cropped up in recent months.

Early prototyping of the next iPhone is believed to be underway ahead of a launch anticipated this fall, one year after the debut of the iPhone 4S. In March it was said that Apple was reviewing potential components for the new iPhone.

Rumors surrounding the next iPhone have picked up steam in recent weeks, as one report said the handset will feature Qualcomm's "MDM9615" LTE 4G chip for high-speed wireless connectivity. Reports have also claimed that the next iPhone will adopt in-cell touch panel technology, which will allow Apple to make the next iPhone thinner by 0.44 millimeters, or fit in a larger battery.
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Apple's next iPhone will be slightly taller to accommodate a 4-inch screen with a new aspect ratio, will feature a redesigned dock connector, and will also have a new metal panel on the back side, a new report claims.
 

 

 

If it is any taller, it will not fit into a pocket.

 

If it has a new aspect ratio, then all the software will need to be rewritten.

 

If it has a new dock connector, then all existing accessories are obsolete.

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Total carp. I mean, what the halibut. I'm not going to waste my time dissecting why this is a bad rumor. I'm no sturgeon.

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post #4 of 103

4"? Most likely.

 

New Aspect Ratio? I doubt it very much. That sounds like an Android move, not something Apple would do.
 

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4"? Most likely.

 

New Aspect Ratio? I doubt it very much.
 

Absolutely. Not a damn chance of an aspect ratio change.

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You can't be too thin or too tall...

Wait for it...

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post #7 of 103

Why thinner. I think the phone as it is now is thin enough. keep the same depth and increase the battery size. I'm sure this next phone will support 4g LTE, why not make a longer running battery. Besides that ever held an ipod touch to you head to see how a thin phone would not be comfortable. I just dont understand the push for thin, seems like something that seems nice but in practice it stops making sense at a certain point... anyone?

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Total carp. I mean, what the halibut. I'm not going to waste my time dissecting why this is a bad rumor. I'm no sturgeon.

It does sound pretty fishy.

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If it is any taller, it will not fit into a pocket.

If it has a new aspect ratio, then all the software will need to be rewritten.

If it has a new dock connector, then all existing accessories are obsolete.

Excellent points, all 3; couldn't agree more. And if this is the case, I'll skip this years' model, causing people to call me the guy with the retro phone, since I didn't upgrade to the 4s last year.
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post #10 of 103

Good, I've always found 4" the best phone size, still good for single handed use while not puny like I find the iPhone screen now. 


I wonder if that's the same wireless chip in the One X? That thing dominates wireless performance. 
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4"? Most likely.

New Aspect Ratio? I doubt it very much. That sounds like an Android move, not something Apple would do.
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Absolutely. Not a damn chance of an aspect ratio change.

The image does show the one way Apple can alter the display size and aspect ratio without affecting the pixel-by-pixel size of apps. Meaning, if they keep the width and pixel-per-inch the same, but make the display taller, they can effectively have current iPhone apps work within the new size. A new SDK would surely be released to allow devs to take full advantage of the new size. Apple could also make the display larger without affecting the dimensions of the physical device.

My concern is whether the same width display is the most beneficial. So long as they keep the pixel density the same and reduce the edge and back thickness they could make the display wider without affecting the current apps of thumb sweep.

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This rumors lines up well with what I've been told by a few people who are in the know. For over the past 1.5 years they have continued to tell me that a taller iPhone is the direction they will be going.

 

We shall see.

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Absolutely, Rather a thicker iPhone with a better battery life. Don't need/want a thinner device.

Instead of making it thinner, use the 2mm for a bigger battery.

 

I have enough of charging the iDevice twice a day, enough !

 

Enough of buying/carrying a battery pack !

 

If Apple wants to conquer the business world, the battery must hold at least the whole day of intensive use.

 

Got it ?

 

Anyone ?

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If it is any taller, it will not fit into a pocket.

Are u a midget or a prepubescent child?
Not that there's anything wrong with either.
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One thing we know....for a Sept/Oct release, the final prototype (among several) has already been chosen and parts suppliers are already prepping production.  Can't wait.  I'm due for an upgrade.

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To me the aspect ratio shift is never going to happen, which means that if this is true the phone just got enough room for soft-buttons at the bottom while running all existing iPhone software.  Makes perfect sense to me.  Replace the physical home button with a row of whatever you want.  Generally it's a home button, but while using Safari it's got back and forward buttons as well. Etc.  Just like Android.

 

Redesigned dock connector is a win for me.  They can make an adapter for existing peripherals no problem, and also make the new connector magsafe.  Which would be awesome.

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Yes, It's too late to ask Apple to put a bigger battery in it. :-(

 

Let's see what happens. I need an upgrade too.

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Actually, the new iPhone is longer... but not to increase the screen size... Apple is putting a physical keyboard on it.
 

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Excellent points, all 3; couldn't agree more.

 

You realize what he's doing, right?

 

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Yes, It's too late to ask Apple to put a bigger battery in it. :-(

 

You realize this is a rumor, right?

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post #21 of 103
If you don't think the dock connector is going to change sooner rather than later you haven't been paying attention.
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Sadly, no matter how amazing the new 6th generation phone is, if the 7th generation uses the same form factor, many in this forum will throw a huge tantrum like they did with the iPhone 4S.

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Absolutely, Rather a thicker iPhone with a better battery life. Don't need/want a thinner device.
Instead of making it thinner, use the 2mm for a bigger battery.

I have enough of charging the iDevice twice a day, enough !

Enough of buying/carrying a battery pack !

If Apple wants to conquer the business world, the battery must hold at least the whole day of intensive use.

Got it ?

Anyone ?
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Sadly, no matter how amazing the new 6th generation phone is, if the 7th generation uses the same form factor, many in this forum will throw a huge tantrum like they did with the iPhone 4S.

Pathetic gripe. Maybe they'd prefer something like the "pick your own color" panels you can get on your Dell notebook.
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Seem fine with me.
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post #26 of 103

Longphone mock-up looks much better than the real thing... but no, this is not happening this year.

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If it is any taller, it will not fit into a pocket.

 

If it has a new aspect ratio, then all the software will need to be rewritten.

 

If it has a new dock connector, then all existing accessories are obsolete.


I agree - this rumor has fail writ large. If they would've stuck to just metal back, thinner, and perhaps expanded the screen while keeping existing ratio and physical size, it would have been a reasonable rumor. Not that it would've been true, but at least hook-worthy.

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Total carp. I mean, what the halibut. I'm not going to waste my time dissecting why this is a bad rumor. I'm no sturgeon.

 

You've clearly spent too long in on the net!

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I want a thinner and larger phone AND better battery life. I feel the Iphone is too heavy and the screen is too small. If I had to choose though I'd deal with the same thickness if they could greatly improve battery life.

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Rumor:

 

Next iPhone to be #145675 silver gray instead of #145676 gray-silver gray.

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I can see the logic for Apple to go to a new dock connector.

 

1) Smaller and more compact - allows smaller and/or thinner devices

2) Removes legacy I/Os

3) Cost reduction?

4) Additional robustness by design?

 

However what will be on the new dock connector? USB and analogue audio? Thunderbolt? HDMI/mDP?

 

And sucks to have devices using the old dock connector. I hope there is an adaptor in the box if this does turn out to be true!

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Well, I see a lot of automakers that are going to have to deal with this new connector with the adapters they put in to connect the iPhone to their entertainment systems.  I wonder how easy it's going to be.

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However what will be on the new dock connector? USB and analogue audio? Thunderbolt? HDMI/mDP?

 

I'd hope for pins for Thunderbolt, USB, and power. Nothing else is really needed. And then they can disable the USB pins once people stop using it.

 

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And sucks to have devices using the old dock connector. I hope there is an adaptor in the box if this does turn out to be true!

 

So, "sucks" to have ANY device, then? As for an adapter, I'm not sure I want my iDevices standing even higher on a wobbly adapter while sitting in accessories.

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The image does show the one way Apple can alter the display size and aspect ratio without affecting the pixel-by-pixel size of apps. Meaning, if they keep the width and pixel-per-inch the same, but make the display taller, they can effectively have current iPhone apps work within the new size. A new SDK would surely be released to allow devs to take full advantage of the new size. Apple could also make the display larger without affecting the dimensions of the physical device.
My concern is whether the same width display is the most beneficial. So long as they keep the pixel density the same and reduce the edge and back thickness they could make the display wider without affecting the current apps of thumb sweep.

 

I think a more plausible change would be to keep the aspect ratio and resolution the same and increase the size to 4" diagonal. Since the resolution is unchanged, very few apps (only those that rely on actual physical dimensions) would need to be changed. PPI would drop slightly, but not enough to be visible to most people.

I just can't see creating a new resolution for a phone that's only 15" larger. Too much bother for too little gain.

 

ETA: As zeromeus pointed out, that's a typo. I meant 15% larger.

 

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If it is any taller, it will not fit into a pocket.

 

Right. But a 5-7" Android device is just fine, right?

/s

 

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Well, I see a lot of automakers that are going to have to deal with this new connector with the adapters they put in to connect the iPhone to their entertainment systems.  I wonder how easy it's going to be.

 

Most automakers that I know use a USB cable to connect the iDevice with the entertainment system, so it wouldn't be a big deal - just a new cable. Which ones use a direct connection?


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post #35 of 103
I heard that the next iphone will be spherical, covered in fur, and carried for you by your own personal pixie.
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Apple has already been through the changing of the dock connector once. Remember years ago when they switched from FireWire powered pins to USB? Rendered a lot of devices useless.

 

I still have an iPod Hi-Fi boom box and while it works beautifully, my iPhone won't charge on it.

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Ugliest mock up I've seen.  Why do internet hacks with photoshop think they can represent what the new phone will look like....all based on rumors to boot.
 

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You've clearly spent too long in on the net!

 Is this the plaice to be having a piscine discussion?  I cod carp on about how inappropriate it is on an Apple forum!!

 

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I call this bull on two accounts.

 

1. a different aspect ratio

2. a metal plate that PARTIALLY covers the back

 

A different aspect ration would be hell for developers.  As metal plate that partially covers the back would be like the original iPhone.  That non-metal part actually falls off after a while.  I never thought that would happen until my niece gets her hands on it.  So what the mockup shows is that the center would have a rectangular metal plate with the top and bottom being either glass, ceramic, or plastic.  I don't think this would ever happen.

 

Since the antennae are now on the sides of the phone, there is no need for the back to look like what it did in the original iPhone with the plastic part being the home of the antennae.  This means the entire back can be a metal plate: perhaps one made with LiquidMetal.  All they have to do is cushion the metal plate from the surrounding antennae to prevent them from making contacts.

 

Come to think of it, they can't even do that.  If they have a metal plate on the back with the antennae surrounding the phone, there would be a lot of interference amongst the different antennae; which is why the iPhone 4 and 4S both have a glass back instead of a metal back.  What a dilemma! Only solution here is that the "metal" plate is non conductive for it to work.

 

I would say the next iPhone will still have glass back with the new gorilla glass 2 and the antennae perhaps move to different places rather than the frame like it is now on the current 4 and 4S.

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I just can't see creating a new resolution for a phone that's only 15" larger. Too much bother for too little gain.

A 15" (inch) increase is HUGE!  The iPad isn't even 15"

 

You meant to say 15mm increase...

 

I agree with you that the resolution can remain the same with a slight decrease in pixel density would be just fine.

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