Samsung unveils quad-core Galaxy S III with 4.8" AMOLED screen - Page 2

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Originally Posted by JeffDM 

 

 

I guess that's an open question right now.  Even the latest iPad does pretty well with two CPU cores.  I also wonder how long it will be before we see phones as large as Apple's defunct Newton platform.  How much bigger before people will definitely need purses to carry their phone?

I like you’re ipad comparison.  I think you are better off with 2 cores and a graphic card then 4 cores and ghetto graphics.  The new ipad has the equivalent of a PC top of the line graphic card to drive the retina display screen. This Samsung phone still has to drive full hd resolution but doesn’t have the graphic power it needs for top games.

I am all in favour of a bigger screen for the new iphone. But Samsung is overlapping the Galaxy note segment with its 4.8 screen phone, it is indeed to big for lots of folks. Since they already have the note going for 4.8” is a mistake in my opinion.  I hope the new iphone screen will be between 4.0” and 4.5” and I also hope they will keep a 3.5” phone in the future because one size doesn’t fit all.  I am sure Apple could find a way to make an UI that allows “humans” to dial a number with only 1 hand on a 4” + screen size phone.

"Designed for Humans"?  Well, that leaves me out.

What a hideous nightmare.

My stomach hurts from looking at the fugly thing!

I saw a few people with those over-sized phone and I was like.. are you holding an over-sized phone or a miniature tablet?  Seriously... There's a line that needs to be drawn between having more content visible at a time and having a phone that is practical.  No more than 4" PLEASE!!!

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Originally Posted by majjo 

I actually prefer the hardware home button; makes it easier to wake than hunting for a power button imo.

 

 

 

Still looks plastic-ity to me. Maybe its just the photos, but I was hoping for something more metallic or (as rumored) cermanic.

I also prefer the hardware buttons, and love how all HW makers are sticking it to Google.

Ceramic would have been nice, but this doesn't look too shabby either:

http://forums.appleinsider.com/image/id/162881/width/400/flags/LL

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Originally Posted by herbapou 

 

I like you’re ipad comparison.  I think you are better off with 2 cores and a graphic card then 4 cores and ghetto graphics.  The new ipad has the equivalent of a PC top of the line graphic card to drive the retina display screen. This Samsung phone still has to drive full hd resolution but doesn’t have the graphic power it needs for top games.

 

I am all in favour of a bigger screen for the new iphone. But Samsung is overlapping the Galaxy note segment with its 4.8 screen phone, it is indeed to big for lots of folks. Since they already have the note going for 4.8” is a mistake in my opinion.  I hope the new iphone screen will be between 4.0” and 4.5” and I also hope they will keep a 3.5” phone in the future because one size doesn’t fit all.  I am sure Apple could find a way to make an UI that allows “humans” to dial a number with only 1 hand on a 4” + screen size phone.

While the SGX543mp4 is indeed very impressive for a mobile device, its no where near the power of a GTX 690 (the current PC 'top of the line' graphics card). 

I think we have to concede that the Galaxy S series have provided the iPhone with increasing competition on the hardware as Android has improved on the software.

Millions of Galaxy S users signal to Apple one thing -- there is a market for an iPhone with a larger screen.

The next iPhone should come in two sizes. I know Apple has been obsessed with minimising inventory since the day Steve brought in the four-square product lines. But let the people decide and Apple will better gauge the trend. 

It's not like the iOS is not up to it. 

~Qb

Pentile still ?! Where white backgrounds turn to checkerboards, black text turns to ladders, and each pixel is only 2/3 of a pixel, making the claimed resolution misleading! Step up, boys and girls, it’s the innovative “anti-retina” display! :p

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-has-pentile-amoled-screen-20120503/

Pentile on the left; the effect is poor at real size too.

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Originally Posted by nagromme 

Pentile still ?! Where white backgrounds turn to checkerboards, black text turns to ladders, and each pixel is only 2/3 of a pixel, making the claimed resolution misleading! Step up, boys and girls, it’s the innovative “anti-retina” display! :p

 

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-has-pentile-amoled-screen-20120503/

 

Pentile on the left; the effect is poor at real size too.

 

How much for the phone + microscope bundle?

Big, ugly, cheaply-made, and running Android. 

*rinse, repeat*

*rinse repeat*

*market flooding*

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Originally Posted by majjo 

While the SGX543mp4 is indeed very impressive for a mobile device, its no where near the power of a GTX 690 (the current PC 'top of the line' graphics card). 

indeed, I was just trying to compare the A5X VS the samsung 4 cores to...

a PC with an i5 dual core with a top of the line graphic card

VS

a PC with an i7 quad core running on HD3000 integraded graphic.

of course the A5X graphic engine is not a match for a PC top graphic card. sorry my previous post was not clear

Wo was the hand model, the Jolly Green Giant?

Am i the only one who thinks this "new" phone looks like something with a few years of wear and tear on it? That home button has no symmetry and the off center camera and sensors make it even fuglier. I hate how samsung forces their brand on you by putting it on the face of the phone. It's bad enough the carriers do it to like every phone since the history of phones, i really don't need a reminder of who made my phone. if bought the damn phone, im pretty sure i know who made it. it adds nothing, yet it substantially subtracts from the aesthetic of the phone.

Tangent: I hope NVidia can get it's shiyit together and pump out some real competitor chips instead of just promises that aren't delivered. They're a graphics company. Why they're focusing on multicore and not graphics performance (which is all a mobile device needs anyway) is beyond me. Companies should, in my prosumer opinion, focus on the front facing camera, graphics speed, and battery life of these phones. Second to those primary concerns, they should work to compete for the living room space with extra connectivity options because Apple is about to eat their lunch with AirPlay. It's leaps and bounds further in it's adoption and development than IR, DLNA, etc.

Way too big.  It will be a flop.

Watch for BOGOs on the horizon!

I'm simultaneously bored by it even while knowing it's definitely top 5 at least in Android phones. The quad A9 isn't too exciting seeing how much faster dual core Krait is. The screen is on par with the Galaxy Nexus, nothing new. Same memory and storage as before. 65% faster GPU should put it well on top of everything else on Android though in that department, just like the 2 was.

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Originally Posted by sflocal 

iOS App Store.  At least it's secured, and don't try spinning it.  Even Android forums are wanting some kind of curated app store too now to deal with the growing malware problem.

Amazon has a curated Amazon App Store.  It seems curious that you say they want something which has been available for a long time now.

It's really ugly. It looks like 90% of the design choices were informed by the need to get the 4.8-inch screen within a body which is acceptably small. 

I hope that the next iPhone has a ~4-inch screen, but 4.8 inches is just too big. There's no way the average person can use a screen of that size comfortably with one hand. It might be borderline acceptable on a phone like the GS3, which is principally designed for geeks, but it's too big for the mainstream. In particular, it's too big for women to use with one hand.

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Originally Posted by MJ Web 

Wo was the hand model, the Jolly Green Giant?

(R.I.P. Andre)

that commercial is terrible awful 

Go HTC...

Samsung is run by idiots...

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Originally Posted by Euphonious 

 

I hope that the next iPhone has a ~4-inch screen

 

The current screen size is perfect.  Apple tried every different screen size and picked 3.5 as the best.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider 

Samsung on Thursday took the wraps off its highly anticipated Galaxy S III smartphone, featuring a 1.4-gigahertz quad-core processor, 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED screen, and Google's Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich operating system.
 

Apple now earning 73% of global mobile profits with just 8.8% unit share

Now, let's see if Apple can match the components and features of Samsung smartphones or if it will be forced to give up its HUGE profit margins. Because, in the end, the market is always right.

And right now, the stock market is saying "I'm not sure if I want to continue to hold on to Apple shares". And, if one is going to follow what Apple executives are doing with their own holdings, it's time to sell. Maybe the party is coming to an end.

So I'm supposed to like this phone so I can have a big 'ol Flipboard widget covering up a third of my home screen.  Geez, I put apps in folders to try and unclutter my home screen as much as possible.  And how's the battery life when you have widgets enabled?
 

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 

So I'm supposed to like this phone so I can have a big 'ol Flipboard widget covering up a third of my home screen.  Geez, I put apps in folders to try and unclutter my home screen as much as possible.  And how's the battery life when you have widgets enabled?
 

As far as I can tell from Android commenters NO ONE likes this phone...

It could be speedy...could be flawless software wise (hah) but the design is sooo dated...it looks like a cheap BOGO phone...all of HTC's One series look better than this...even the one V which is designed to be a budget phone.

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Originally Posted by ljocampo 

 

Hugh is an understatement. Hugh as in we no longer will know if owners have a boner or the phone in their pants pocket.

Phones get 'boners'?  That news would be huge.

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It's lighter and thinner then the iPhone, I don't think it will be a problem.

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Originally Posted by quinney 

 

(R.I.P. Andre)

Also: RIP Muhammad (or Cassius...)

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Originally Posted by Blastdoor 

I'm very curious to see if four cores is useful in a phone. I'm a little skeptical, but I don't know for sure. 

I have a HTC One X, which has 4 cores, and a iPhone 4S but I can't say one feels faster than the other. Maybe it just needs to have software to optimised for four cores before you can notice a difference.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 

So I'm supposed to like this phone so I can have a big 'ol Flipboard widget covering up a third of my home screen.  Geez, I put apps in folders to try and unclutter my home screen as much as possible.  And how's the battery life when you have widgets enabled?
 

It depends on how many widgets you have and how often the widget updates it's info, I set mine for once every three hours.

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Originally Posted by Negafox 

I like the specs but the display is too large. 4.8" display? I doubt I could comfortably fit that in my pocket.

The One X is almost the exact same size and it fits in your pocket fine. Probably because it's so thin I guess.

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Originally Posted by Euphonious 

It's really ugly. It looks like 90% of the design choices were informed by the need to get the 4.8-inch screen within a body which is acceptably small. 

 

I hope that the next iPhone has a ~4-inch screen, but 4.8 inches is just too big. There's no way the average person can use a screen of that size comfortably with one hand. It might be borderline acceptable on a phone like the GS3, which is principally designed for geeks, but it's too big for the mainstream. In particular, it's too big for women to use with one hand.

I'm a women and If I can use the Note with one hand I'm sure nobody will have a problem with this one.

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Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz 

 

 

The current screen size is perfect.  Apple tried every different screen size and picked 3.5 as the best.

Perfect for everyone or just you? I personally found it too small for my liking. 

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Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz 

 

 

The current screen size is perfect.  Apple tried every different screen size and picked 3.5 as the best.

That was when it was introduced almost 5 years ago, times change so do peoples expectations on technology. Apple is going to have a larger screen on their next generation iPhone's so get used to it.

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz 

 

As far as I can tell from Android commenters NO ONE likes this phone...

 

It could be speedy...could be flawless software wise (hah) but the design is sooo dated...it looks like a cheap BOGO phone...all of HTC's One series look better than this...even the one V which is designed to be a budget phone.

Wasn't that the same initial reaction when the 4S came out as there was so much buzz about a new design? Didn't stop Apple from selling millions of them just like Samsung probably will with this phone.

I think the biggest news here is not the derivative and meh hardware but the derivative and meh software.

This is BIG. If more signs were needed, Samsung is out to destroy Android as an open platform. Quite rightly in their quest to be a successful company via their strategy to copy and then try to out-Apple Apple, they obviously feel that they can hold up Android on their own as a Samsung driven ecosystem. The way the competitors are going they are probably right. They are methodically copying everything Apple is doing since it is obviously the way to get growth AND profits in creating a Samsung-only ecosystem around content, Samsung specific apps (mostly aping Apple e.g. S-Cloud, S-Beam and S Voice) and even Samsung proprietary (pop-up) retail. They are the only Android OEM with the resources (and now profits) to invest in this kind of real differentiation (beyond a stupid skin).

How soon can it be before Samsung properly forks its OS from Google. Apart from the Play store, Samsung is almost autonomous already. I think nerds like us would be surprised at how little most Google Apps tie people to the ecosystem. G Apps, G Voice, G Drive, etc. are weak magnets for most mainstream users, as is any Google content platform (except the Play App Store). G Mail is ubiquitous but most users are fine with access from a built in or 3rd party app rather than super tight integration.

This is the beginning of the end for Google's even now tenuous control of its own platform. Not that it should negatively impact them too much. Look how much they make from iOS. At least it isn't MS that is doing this to them.

Will Google decide to be more aggressive with the Moto purchase (sign already!) and not sell it off to Huawei and go to war with Samsung? For nice potential hardware profits, taking them from Samsung and denying them access to the new wizz-bang features of JB or KillerKracknel or whatever, maybe?

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Originally Posted by fredaroony 

Wasn't that the same initial reaction when the 4S came out as there was so much buzz about a new design? Didn't stop Apple from selling millions of them just like Samsung probably will with this phone.

I agree. As Horace Dediu once notably said "when bloggers shed tears, cash registers ring".

I think that most of the nerd complaints will have no impact on the high-end of the mainstream of consumers which is the target for Samsung. The compromises keep this mainstream (a minor update on the GNex) but enough to keep them winning until the iP5. The point of this phone is not to please fanboys but sell millions upon millions of devices (not a few mil like the GNex or Note) and make a healthy profit on each one. It will do this and will further fragment Android to the point that Samsung forks entirely when they can manage and populate their own App Store.