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Apple on Monday released iOS 5.1.1 for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch, packing a number of fixes for various bugs, including issues that affected AirPlay video playback.

Users can now download the full update through iTunes, or access the smaller delta update directly on their iOS device through the Settings application. The software update is labeled as "Build 9B206."

The update is available for the iPhone 4S, iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS, third- and fourth-generation iPod touch, and all iPad models. The full list of changes in iOS 5.1.1, as noted by Apple, are:
  • Improves reliability of using HDR option for photos taken using the Lock Screen shortcut
  • Addresses bugs that could prevent the new iPad from switching between 2G and 3G networks
  • Fixes bugs that affected AirPlay video playback in some circumstances
  • Improved reliability for syncing Safari bookmarks and Reading List
  • Fixes an issue where 'Unable to purchase' alert could be displayed after successful purchase

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The last update to iOS arrived in March, and added Japanese language support for Siri, as well as quick lock screen access to the iPhone's native Camera application. It also gave users the ability to delete pictures from the iCloud-based Photo Stream service.

Apple is expected to unveil the next major update to its iOS mobile operating system next month at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference. The event will run from June 11 through 15 at Moscone West in San Francisco, Calif.
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Damn, not even a beta.  But I guess the fixes were minor enough to not warrant one.

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Wonder if this closes any of the holes to be used in the forthcoming 5.1 jailbreak?

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Wonder if this closes any of the holes to be used in the forthcoming 5.1 jailbreak?

Why would you want to jainbreak your phone anymore?

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Ho hum. I want to know what io6 will bring. Seems like it had better be good.
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Why would you want to jainbreak your phone anymore?

 

 

MyWi, BiteSMS, SBSettings, f.lux, Five Icon Dock.

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Why would you want to jainbreak your phone anymore?

 

When Apple allows me to enable or disable wi-fi or 3G without ploughing through several layers of menus, then I'll probably stop jailbreaking. Until then, I'll use SBSettings, which allows you to put those controls in the notification centre.

 

There's also countless other tweaks which are only available through jailbreaking. Pictures in contact list, FaceTime on 3G, five-icon dock, etc.

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When Apple allows me to enable or disable wi-fi or 3G without ploughing through several layers of menus, then I'll probably stop jailbreaking. Until then, I'll use the jailbreak tool which allow you to put those controls in the notification centre.

 

There's also countless other tweaks which are only available through jailbreaking. Pictures in contact list, FaceTime on 3G, five-icon dock, etc.

 

Ploughing? It's hardly that much of a big deal. You click on settings, you go to Wifi, you turn it on/off. 3G is one extra step. For wifi that removes one gesture and for 3G it removes 2. Is it really that difficult that you had to jailbreak?

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Yes. It aggravates me that the Apple method is so unintuitive, when Apple is normally a company known for its intuitive software design. It's five minutes' effort to jailbreak, repaid by better ease of use for years down the line.

 

Why the confrontational attitude to jailbreaking, anyway? It's my device, I paid good money for it; I'll use it how I want, whether it's Apple's wish or not.

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Ploughing? It's hardly that much of a big deal. You click on settings, you go to Wifi, you turn it on/off. 3G is one extra step. For wifi that removes one gesture and for 3G it removes 2. Is it really that difficult that you had to jailbreak?

What does it matter?  Maybe he doesn't have fingers and yes it is that difficult.  What matters is Apple should allow people to use their phones the way they want and not the way Apple dictates.  Until they allow that to happen, I'll be a happy jailbreaker.  

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I didn't mean to come across in that manner, was just asking. Sorry about that. 

 

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Originally Posted by Euphonious View Post

Yes. It aggravates me that the Apple method is so unintuitive, when Apple is normally a company known for its intuitive software design. It's five minutes' effort to jailbreak, repaid by better ease of use for years down the line.

 

Why the confrontational attitude to jailbreaking, anyway? It's my device, I paid good money for it; I'll use it how I want, whether it's Apple's wish or not.

 

 

Maybe he doesn't have fingers? That was a little stupid really....

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What does it matter?  Maybe he doesn't have fingers and yes it is that difficult.  What matters is Apple should allow people to use their phones the way they want and not the way Apple dictates.  Until they allow that to happen, I'll be a happy jailbreaker.  

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I don't really mind Apple dictating the experience most of the time. It's that which keeps the UI consistent; some jailbreak software is really, really ugly!

 

But when it's a simple tweak with an obvious advantage and no real downside, then jailbreaking to achieve it is a bit of a no-brainer.

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Yes. It aggravates me that the Apple method is so unintuitive, when Apple is normally a company known for its intuitive software design. It's five minutes' effort to jailbreak, repaid by better ease of use for years down the line.

 

Why the confrontational attitude to jailbreaking, anyway? It's my device, I paid good money for it; I'll use it how I want, whether it's Apple's wish or not.


My phone isn't jailbroken, but I agree with every reason you posted.  I had jailbroken it awhile back and absolutely loved being able to swipe up to turn my bluetooth on and off, or swipe diagonally up to turn off wifi.  I'm not sure why anybody would be confrontational about this.  It's preference, and it is incredibly convenient as well.  I don't want bluetooth going all day because of the battery drain, but when I get in my car, I would simply swipe up and it instantly would connect for hands free calling.  I also didn't enjoy the constant detection of wifi signals, so I swiped it off until I returned home or arrived as work.  One simple, thoughtless swipe. 

 

Also, the argument, "is it really that difficult that you had to jailbreak" is a straw man.  Being difficult is not the issue.  Being easier and more efficient is.  It's why I have an iphone to begin with.  For example, android UI's are sluggish.  Is it too difficult to use?  No...there are several Android phones that I love.  Is it easier to use my iPhone?  Yep.  I think being confrontational about this admits too much bias.  I'm right there with you.  I'd love if Apple added something to settings that would allow me to turn bluetooth and wifi off and on from notifcations or from an assigned swipe.    

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10.7.4 later today?

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What does it matter?  Maybe he doesn't have fingers and yes it is that difficult.  What matters is Apple should allow people to use their phones the way they want and not the way Apple dictates.  Until they allow that to happen, I'll be a happy jailbreaker.  

 

Even if you jailbreak, you can't use the phone the way you want. You can't get phone service for free. You can't use any carrier with any phone. You can't install your own OS. I just don't get it.

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10.7.4 later today?

Hope so! )

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Feels snappier.

 

(hey, I know this is iOS, but someone had to say it.)

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Even if you jailbreak, you can't use the phone the way you want. You can't get phone service for free. You can't use any carrier with any phone. You can't install your own OS. I just don't get it.

 

That's mostly true. Android offers a much higher level of flexibility than even a jailbroken iPhone does - you can replace fundamentals of the OS, etc. 

 

But Android doesn't interest me, because I don't like the core UI and design philosophy and I don't like the hardware. For me, jailbreaking an iPhone is a compromise - a way to achieve a bit more freedom whilst retaining the advantages of the iPhone over Android. You can't do everything, but you can improve on the stock functionality!

 

The argument regarding free phone service is a bit silly. I want to be in control of how I use my device; that's a lot different from wanting to obtain something for nothing by committing fraud!

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Even if you jailbreak, you can't use the phone the way you want. You can't get phone service for free. You can't use any carrier with any phone. You can't install your own OS. I just don't get it.

You could also add that it won't make you espressos, pick up your dry cleaning, or babysit your kids. There are myriad reasons many people have for jailbreaking their devices. The absence of a reason for you doesn't negate theirs. And the absence of you agreeing with their reasons is even less relevant.

 

Personally, I've gone back and forth in regards to jailbreaking my devices. SBSettings, netatalk, 3G Unrestrictor, and removing the download cap for 3G/4G connections have continued to be the biggest motivators for me. Currently, none of mine are jailbroken but I hope that continues to be an option if I change my mind.

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MyWi, BiteSMS, SBSettings, f.lux, Five Icon Dock.

Have you ever given it a thought why these apps aren't in the AppStore? Maybe there's something wrong with them?..

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Have you ever given it a thought why these apps aren't in the AppStore? Maybe there's something wrong with them?..

 

They're not in the App Store because Apple doesn't allow them in the App Store. They modify elements of the core UI or functionality and Apple doesn't allow that. I know that Apple has valid reasons for doing that, but personally I appreciate the flexibility more.

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"Improves reliability of using HDR option for photos taken using the Lock Screen shortcut”

 

So I’m not crazy! I DID take that picture! No version of it, HDR or otherwise, was later to be found in my photos. Now I know why.

 

“Improved reliability for syncing Safari bookmarks and Reading List"

 

Thank you! Reading List has been awesome but it was SO close and yet so far, if it needed me to manually force a sync (by manually adding/removing something).

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When Apple allows me to enable or disable wi-fi or 3G without ploughing through several layers of menus, then I'll probably stop jailbreaking. 

I've wondered why they didn't give us "Locations" like we have in OS X.  It would be so convenient to have a top level app or pulldown to select a location to configure all these things.  Does seem like a fairly gross omission.

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Even if you jailbreak, you can't use the phone the way you want. You can't get phone service for free. You can't use any carrier with any phone. You can't install your own OS. I just don't get it.

 

That's fine if you don't get it, but there will always be people who want to do more with their hardware than the software maker dictates.  I'm one of those people.  If you're fine using a stock phone the way the manufacturer dictates it, fine.  Let me ask you a question though, do you use a different browser than the one that comes stock with your OS or do you utilize something that is a little more flexible or something that suits your needs or wants a little more?

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That's fine if you don't get it, but there will always be people who want to do more with their hardware than the software maker dictates.  I'm one of those people.

 

And yet you use Apple products when there's a perfectly good world of Android devices out there that let you do this without voiding the warranty.

 

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Let me ask you a question though, do you use a different browser than the one that comes stock with your OS or do you utilize something that is a little more flexible or something that suits your needs or wants a little more?

 

There's no browser that suits my needs or wants more than Safari. Chrome steals your information, Firefox is pathetically slow, and Opera's just not even a player anymore. Never mind that it's the fastest of the modern browsers. What does that have to do with anything? 

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And yet you use Apple products when there's a perfectly good world of Android devices out there that let you do this without voiding the warranty.

 

There's no browser that suits my needs or wants more than Safari. Chrome steals your information, Firefox is pathetically slow, and Opera's just not even a player anymore. Never mind that it's the fastest of the modern browsers. What does that have to do with anything? 

 

We're locked in virtual pissing match with no winner.  Android has tons of apps that steal your info and clone other developers apps to make money.  My point of bringing up the browser is that just because a software developer created something doesn't mean it can't be improved.  If the mouse was the perfect method of inputting data into a computer then Wacom tablets wouldn't exist.  I prefer the Apple OS more than Android and don't want to deal with the fragmentation and terrible business support/adoption of Android.  With my fleet of iOS devices I can IPSec or Cisco AnyConnect VPN in to work without having to a) buy a samsung droid or b) root a non-saumsung droid.  Prior to iOS 4 I was jailbreaking so that I could background applications but now that feature is included.  So at what point do you "understand it"?  Once Apple implements it then it's okay to have that feature but to want it prior to Apple putting it in you just don't get why someone would want it?  It's just preferences.  I don't understand how Safari could be the only browser you could use.  Just preferences.  

 

[edit: i accidentally a word]

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To use ALL apps over cellular, with no size limits in the AppStore, no FaceTime restriction to WiFi, tethering without paying extra for it.  To install whatever apps and tweaks Apple disallows in the AppStore, to have full control of the device I paid for.  

 

 

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Why would you want to jainbreak your phone anymore?

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Even if you jailbreak, you can't use the phone the way you want. You can't get phone service for free. You can't use any carrier with any phone. You can't install your own OS. I just don't get it.


I can understand folks wanting to tailor their OS to their unique style, but in the end I'll take consistent UI's over a micro-managing UI anyway.  The reason is simple.  It's the same on all iPhones, so you can pick up any iPhone since day one and know exactly where everything is.  There is an advantage and consistency to that.

Back in the day for us older folks, PC manufactures (Compaq and HP come to mind) in the 90's were doing the exact same thing with tweaking Windows and essentially putting up their own custom UI to do similar things.  The result being that users at companies were complaining that they could not navigate between "regular" stock windows UI and the custom interface that the companies "swore" was a more pleasing experience.  It was a mess.  So Microsoft decided to mandate that companies could not screw around with the Windows interface.  So in essence, you can walk up to any Window's machine and at least know the basics of how to use it.

Of course, jailbreaking opens up more can of worms than its worth, but there will be those naysayers that will scream at the top of their lungs that iOS should be all about them and not what Apple thinks is best.

Seriously, a one-touch WiFi button?  I can understand it.  Really I can.  But the extra tap or two which comprises of an extra second or two is so minimal for me it's a none-event, but I understand... not for certain folks...

 

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I can understand folks wanting to tailor their OS to their unique style, but in the end I'll take consistent UI's over a micro-managing UI anyway.  The reason is simple.  It's the same on all iPhones, so you can pick up any iPhone since day one and know exactly where everything is.  There is an advantage and consistency to that.

Back in the day for us older folks, PC manufactures (Compaq and HP come to mind) in the 90's were doing the exact same thing with tweaking Windows and essentially putting up their own custom UI to do similar things.  The result being that users at companies were complaining that they could not navigate between "regular" stock windows UI and the custom interface that the companies "swore" was a more pleasing experience.  It was a mess.  So Microsoft decided to mandate that companies could not screw around with the Windows interface.  So in essence, you can walk up to any Window's machine and at least know the basics of how to use it.

Of course, jailbreaking opens up more can of worms than its worth, but there will be those naysayers that will scream at the top of their lungs that iOS should be all about them and not what Apple thinks is best.

Seriously, a one-touch WiFi button?  I can understand it.  Really I can.  But the extra tap or two which comprises of an extra second or two is so minimal for me it's a none-event, but I understand... not for certain folks...

 

 

Great points.  I can't count the times doing tech-bench work in the 90's when Packard Bell was king and would stock their machine full of garbage.  But...  Even today, Windows 7 ships a specific way.  It is to Microsoft spec.  Then.... You can do whatever the heck you want.  Don't like the way the Start button works?  Get rid of it.  Use a dock instead.  It's not a matter of stock, I don't mind a vanilla-bland out of the box but the want to do more can't be squelched.  

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MyWi, BiteSMS, SBSettings, f.lux, Five Icon Dock.

MyWI is unnecessary for ages, the functionality is built in to iOS now.  BiteSMS is similarly completely unnecessary now we have iMessage (also built in).  SBSettings is for idiots who fiddle with their settings all day (no hope there as no rational argument will convince those that think they need this how dumb it is).  f.lux (automatic screen dimming/brightening), is also a feature that has been built in to the iPhone for many versions. 

 

The only advantage you're getting here is "FiveIcondock" and that's just ugly.  

You are jail breaking your phone with all the hassles and gotchas that entails just so you can jam an extra icon onto your dock?  

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When Apple allows me to enable or disable wi-fi or 3G without ploughing through several layers of menus, then I'll probably stop jailbreaking. Until then, I'll use the jailbreak tool which allow you to put those controls in the notification centre.

 

There's also countless other tweaks which are only available through jailbreaking. Pictures in contact list, FaceTime on 3G, five-icon dock, etc.

 

Ploughing? It's hardly that much of a big deal. You click on settings, you go to Wifi, you turn it on/off. 3G is one extra step. For wifi that removes one gesture and for 3G it removes 2. Is it really that difficult that you had to jailbreak?

 

 

The real reason most jailbreakers do it is so that they can steal apps from Apple.

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The real reason most jailbreakers do it is so that they can steal apps from Apple.

At least they're not spending their time making up fraudulent reviews and posting them.
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Yes. It aggravates me that the Apple method is so unintuitive, when Apple is normally a company known for its intuitive software design. It's five minutes' effort to jailbreak, repaid by better ease of use for years down the line.

 

Why the confrontational attitude to jailbreaking, anyway? It's my device, I paid good money for it; I'll use it how I want, whether it's Apple's wish or not.

This is just lies and nonsense.  And you jail breaker types wonder why everyone ridicules you?  It's because of stuff like this.  

 

You make it sound like it's a five minute "no problem" thing to jailbreak.  It so totally isn't.  

It's a hassle, you have to know what you're doing, and you have to pay attention to a lot of stuff to maintain it.

 

Then after this complete misrepresentation, you try to maintain the opposite lie which is that Apple's stuff is "not intuitive" and bad/clunky whatever.  

You can't just call white black and black white and expect anyone to buy that crap.  Try being honest and realistic and then maybe you might win some converts to your way of thinking. 

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I can understand folks wanting to tailor their OS to their unique style, but in the end I'll take consistent UI's over a micro-managing UI anyway.  The reason is simple.  It's the same on all iPhones, so you can pick up any iPhone since day one and know exactly where everything is.  There is an advantage and consistency to that.

Back in the day for us older folks, PC manufactures (Compaq and HP come to mind) in the 90's were doing the exact same thing with tweaking Windows and essentially putting up their own custom UI to do similar things.  The result being that users at companies were complaining that they could not navigate between "regular" stock windows UI and the custom interface that the companies "swore" was a more pleasing experience.  It was a mess.  So Microsoft decided to mandate that companies could not screw around with the Windows interface.  So in essence, you can walk up to any Window's machine and at least know the basics of how to use it.

Of course, jailbreaking opens up more can of worms than its worth, but there will be those naysayers that will scream at the top of their lungs that iOS should be all about them and not what Apple thinks is best.

Seriously, a one-touch WiFi button?  I can understand it.  Really I can.  But the extra tap or two which comprises of an extra second or two is so minimal for me it's a none-event, but I understand... not for certain folks...
 

 

Ha!

 

Is appears that MS had decided to bing the "tweaked mess that is a custom UI" in house with Windows 8 Metro... lol.gif

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 tethering without paying extra for it. 

That is theft.

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I really hope this fixes the constant crashing of Safari on the iPad.....
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I can understand folks wanting to tailor their OS to their unique style, but in the end I'll take consistent UI's over a micro-managing UI anyway.  The reason is simple.  It's the same on all iPhones, so you can pick up any iPhone since day one and know exactly where everything is.  There is an advantage and consistency to that.

Back in the day for us older folks, PC manufactures (Compaq and HP come to mind) in the 90's were doing the exact same thing with tweaking Windows and essentially putting up their own custom UI to do similar things.  The result being that users at companies were complaining that they could not navigate between "regular" stock windows UI and the custom interface that the companies "swore" was a more pleasing experience.  It was a mess.  So Microsoft decided to mandate that companies could not screw around with the Windows interface.  So in essence, you can walk up to any Window's machine and at least know the basics of how to use it.

Of course, jailbreaking opens up more can of worms than its worth, but there will be those naysayers that will scream at the top of their lungs that iOS should be all about them and not what Apple thinks is best.

Seriously, a one-touch WiFi button?  I can understand it.  Really I can.  But the extra tap or two which comprises of an extra second or two is so minimal for me it's a none-event, but I understand... not for certain folks...
 

 

Ha!

 

Is appears that MS had decided that the "tweaked mess that is a custom UI" needed to be brought in-house with Windows 8 Metro... lol.gif

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MyWI is unnecessary for ages, the functionality is built in to iOS now.  BiteSMS is similarly completely unnecessary now we have iMessage (also built in).  SBSettings is for idiots who fiddle with their settings all day (no hope there as no rational argument will convince those that think they need this how dumb it is).  f.lux (automatic screen dimming/brightening), is also a feature that has been built in to the iPhone for many versions. 

 

The only advantage you're getting here is "FiveIcondock" and that's just ugly.  

You are jail breaking your phone with all the hassles and gotchas that entails just so you can jam an extra icon onto your dock?  

  • MyWi is totally necessary.  I don't want to pay AT&T an additional fee and lose my unlimited data.  Btw, I'm always under 2 gigs a month, I don't abuse my unilimted data.
  • I use BiteSMS for the interface so I can send text messages without having to leave whatever application I'm in and I have unlimited texting anyway so I never used it as an alternative texting service.
  • SBS is helpful so that I don't have to leave my app to adjust brightness, disable wireless or make other simple system changes.
  • f.lux isn't just dimming, it makes the phone screen easier on the eyes by removing the blue to make the screen more red.  Great for very low light use of my phone.  Even when the phone is as dim as it can be made it's still disturbs my wife.  Enable f.lux and she can't tell I'm even using it.  
  • 5 Icon Dock is quite helpful because my corporate eMail comes in through a different mail client, but I still want to have the regular mail client plus the default icons.

 

Don't think for a second that I enjoy jailbreaking but in order to use my phone the way that fits me best, I jailbreak.  Congratulations on being happy with the stock configuration, that isn't for me.  

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Even if you jailbreak, you can't use the phone the way you want. You can't get phone service for free. You can't use any carrier with any phone. You can't install your own OS. I just don't get it.

 

You don't get it because you worship at the temple of Apple and nothing they do is ever remotely wrong, and they don't have a single solitary flaw. You will defend everything they do to your last breath. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but that's exactly why you don't get it. There are very good improvements that jailbreaking enable, some of which Apple has outright stolen and many they continue to completely ignore after 5 years of iOS being around. I don't blame Apple for trying to lock the OS down as tight as they can, it only makes sense to make the phone as secure as possible and to milk your customers for everything you can. It makes perfect sense to do that and I'd most likely do that exact same thing were it my phone.

 

Jailbreaking isn't about using any carrier with any phone, or getting phone service for free. Two things jailbreaking has never claimed to enable. Had you any knowledge about jailbreaking before dismissing it you'd know that. It's about making tweaks and installing apps that Apple doesn't allow. Piracy is an issue and a very unfortunate side affect of jailbreaking, the other benefits to jailbreaking vastly outweigh the piracy issue. Maybe you should learn a little more about jailbreaking before dismissing it.

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Great points.  I can't count the times doing tech-bench work in the 90's when Packard Bell was king and would stock their machine full of garbage.  But...  Even today, Windows 7 ships a specific way.  It is to Microsoft spec.  Then.... You can do whatever the heck you want.  Don't like the way the Start button works?  Get rid of it.  Use a dock instead.  It's not a matter of stock, I don't mind a vanilla-bland out of the box but the want to do more can't be squelched.  

Ah yes, Packard Bell... I very much remembered having to diagnose problems on those machines.  So much in fact that I must have suppressed-memories of it.  Too traumatizing to remember.  They had a seriously screwed up way of doing things.

If by changing Windows 7 appearance and functionality, may I presume to guess that you're referring to AD?  It's still under Microsoft's control from a top-level. 

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