Originally Posted by nvidia2008
In any case the discrete GPU industry is on its way out. Only certain MBP 15" and all MBP 17" - esque MBPs will have discrete GPUs. AMD and Nvidia blew it, and Intel steamrolled them, legally and illegally (eg. locking out Nvidia). In the meantime PowerVR and ARM is eating everyone's breakfast, lunch and soon, dinner.
Are you from the future? 2016? Because as far as I know, that's the only scenario where such a statement could possibly be true.
As I said before, my username is perhaps the peak of discrete GPUs (Even then the 8600M fiasco was quite bad, though that G92 GPU design was superb).
I have the famed Nvidia 320M in my MBP 13" 2010. It's okay, but compared to a integrated Intel MBP 13" nothing great.
Not only that's incorrect (it's better than Sandy Bridge graphics), but even if it wasn't, that'd be nothing more than the expected, seeing as that GPU was really low-end and that HD3000 is, oh I don't know, a generation newer?
So many laptop discreet GPUs in any case are such crippled versions of their desktop brethren the difference between them and Intel is nothing more than marketing. 2GB VRAM on a useless laptop discrete GPU? That's like those $300 HDMI cables.
Bullshit, and any quick look at Wikipedia or benchmarks at AnandTech proves it.
Throw in the whole "casual gaming" phenomenon and that's the killing blow to the discrete GPU industry.
Casual gaming is not going to kill AAA titles. That's simply a thoughtless assertion.
Consider this: just at the time when GPUs became ever more hot, heavy, expensive and noisy to support ever more complex, risky and expensive (software and hardware) games, people gravitated towards simpler, alternative "casual" games. The "perfect storm" that crushed almost all discrete GPU dreams.
BULLSHIT. Double one, at that:
1) GPUs are getting more and more power efficient and smaller. Look at the size of a Nvidia GTX 670.
2) People are NOT "gravitating towards simpler games", it's people who never played games that are being drawn in to casual gaming thanks to smartphones. They'd have never spent money on a gaming gadget otherwise - casual or not - and the few exceptions to that rule are ex-Nintendo DS users, which don't fit in with the market we're talking about.
Also, I enjoy how Nintendo's suffering with all this. Maybe then they'll stop selling gimmickry outdated hardware that sports only one or two quality titles.
The only decent GPUs in the future will be:
1. Megalithic desktop 500W-1KW multi-card setups, ie. niche stuff Nope
2a. Intel Integrated which will benefit from modest improvements in GPU architecture but huge gains in CPU power (ie. GPGPU not so essential because CPU still handles a lot of tasks, including custom routines for video encoding said to be the forte of GPUs, which is now bollocks)
2b. Intel Integrated which will benefit a lot from process improvements which currently outpace anything TSMC/ AMD/ Nvidia can achieve
3. PowerVR which will come in from the ground up, ie. iPad 3/4/5 GPU is the next great gaming GPU.
So on one hand we have niche "high-perfomance" stuff that has no real world mainstream application, aging gaming consoles with now very paltry graphics, "next-gen" gaming consoles which are still dicey in terms of business "models", Intel Integrated which is sufficient for mainstream computing but nowhere near gaming-class,
And on the other hand... iPad. 'Nuff said.
You're implying that AAA titles will vanish and that the future of gaming is based on Angry Birds lookalikes running on iPads?
I feel an urge to call names... Let's just settle on "THAT'S JUST INANE BS"