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Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook met with Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives John Boehner on Tuesday for reasons yet to be reported.

A picture from the official Speaker of the House "Speaker Blog" showed Cook donning uncharacteristically formal attire sitting mid-conversation with Speaker Boehner at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. The photo came with no details and it is unknown what the two were discussing.

Speaker Boehner is an outspoken opponent of a House measure aimed at China that would call for the U.S. to take action if it was suspected that a country was manipulating the value of its currency.

Earlier today, Boehner said the GOP-lead House would lay the groundwork for possible tax reform ahead of an expected debt ceiling hike from President Obama and congressional Democrats, reports The Christian Science Monitor.

Citing a speech Boehner is expected to make, the House will vote before the upcoming election to "give Congress time to work on broad-based tax reform that lowers rates for individuals and businesses while closing deductions, credits, and special carveouts."

Cook and Boehner
Source: Speaker Blog


Apple's tax practices were recently criticized following a New York Times expose that claimed the company uses loopholes to save billions of dollars each year by "sidestepping" U.S. tax laws.
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Forget the tax holiday. Restructure the US government and rebuild the budget to do what Apple did seventeen years ago. We could have a SURPLUS of 15 trillion instead of a deficit if the government runs more like Apple…

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Forget the tax holiday. Restructure the US government and rebuild the budget to do what Apple did seventeen years ago. We could have a SURPLUS of 15 trillion instead of a deficit if the government runs more like Apple…

Yikes! Apple is run like a dictatorship. Is this really what you want? A secret government that runs on exploitative labor?
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Yikes! Apple is run like a dictatorship. Is this really what you want? A secret government?


Well… if it works… 

 

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The government can certainly take cues from what Apple did in '96 without devolving into a one-party system ruled by a megalomaniacal despot with a vision.

 

Just have a three-party system ruled by a bunch of people who have actually had jobs before holding office that have vision.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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TS, nice reply 1wink.gif
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Maybe he can convince Boehner to come out of the closet.  :/

All joking aside the first think I wondered if this was about civil rights for homosexuals.

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Apple doesn't need a tax holiday - they should be able to bring in that cash using a simple US tax Less taxes paid overseas.  Not difficult to calculate and a reasonable approach.  

 

Obviously Apple can also use funds overseas to pay for costs overseas.  Component costs, production costs, R&D costs.  All can be covered in part from overseas cash.  

 

What the Republicans should be focused on for Apple is building up the middle class in order to enlarge that prime market, and to spend more on Education as Apple is doing well in that market.

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post #8 of 56

They are discussing how many government officials they can stuff into Apple's new spaceship when WW3 starts.

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The photo came with no details and it is unknown what the two were discussing.

 

We'll be hearing about this meeting in a lot more detail shortly.

 

THIS is why:

 

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If that 'dog' sitting there on the table isn't an electronic listening device, then I'd be very surprised.

 

(And even if it isn't I can guarantee that he isn't cleared for classified information)

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It's already been done.  It's called the Arab's and they did it 50 years ago with oil.

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I'm sure it was just to discuss tanning booth regimens.

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This thread should be a doozy...  all the wackos will be out in full fright.  I can't wait to read all the conspiracy theories and rambling nonsense from all sides.

 

It should provide a good laugh.

 

"Do you think you could do something about those Greenpeace crazies?"

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Profits from over seas operations are taxed at the location of collection and in the US. The tax everyone is discussing is another tax that is applied when this double taxed monies are brought back. The US is one of 2 countries that have their citizens and businesses pay at home and overseas. Add on this repatriation tax and you see why businesses complain. Think of it as if your State decided to tax your Fed income tax refund...

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Was there crying?

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"Do you think you could do something about those Greenpeace crazies?"

 

John Boehner's response: "Well, Seal Team Six have been getting a bit flabby from sitting around having little to do. I'm sure we can come to an arrangement."

 

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Was there crying?

 

With Apple's bulging war-chest, rising share price, and exploding market value, I'm sure they would have been tears of laughter...

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You got the "silence is golden" part right.... just one paragraph too late.

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Please don't quote that post. It's just more work to remove.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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My first thought....

That's the way to do lobbying!
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Seriously, maybe he's telling Boehner that he and his hysterical Party should not operate so much in fear of the future, that Apple is about to become the next General Motors/General Electric/AT&T/ITT/IBM combined, an entity like the world has never seen, and the national debt is going to start going down as fast as it went up—as soon as Congress starts to function like a forward-looking, intelligent body, instead of a cringing, science-denying, backward bunch of ideologues.

    

   But that doesn't sound much like Tim. He's a nicer guy than I would be in that situation. 

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Let's hope he can convince Boehner to cut the foreign profit repatriation tax. That money could lift the US economy
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You got the "silence is golden" part right.... just one paragraph too late.

 

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I pity the parents that brought you into the world. Sheesh.

 

In all fairness I thought it was kind of funny and Boehner is absolutely famous for being exactly as described (wilfully ignorant, shallow, mean, opportunistic, etc.)  

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Forget the tax holiday. Restructure the US government and rebuild the budget to do what Apple did seventeen years ago. We could have a SURPLUS of 15 trillion instead of a deficit if the government runs more like Apple…

 

Thanks for displaying an abject misunderstanding of what comprises of around 6 million employees to 60K+ and how hurding that many cats wouldn't work.

 

We do agree that Apple and the rest don't deserve a Tax Holiday.

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Let's stay away from the partisan snipes please. Those belong in Political Outsider sub forum or not on this site.
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Thanks for displaying an abject misunderstanding of what comprises of around 6 million employees to 60K+ and how hurding that many cats wouldn't work.

 

I'd much rather any failure not be for lack of trying. Certainly we shouldn't throw everything against the wall, as the saying goes, but the government should at least try to look at successful businesses and find out WHY they were successful.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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I'd much rather any failure not be for lack of trying. Certainly we shouldn't throw everything against the wall, as the saying goes, but the government should at least try to look at successful businesses and find out WHY they were successful.

We know why, the scope of their considerations is significantly more restrained. Companies only have to worry about two things, for most perhaps only one thing. Making money, and fulfilling ther mission/goal.

I would hate for my government to only care about profits. I think it has a far larger role to play, sometimes at a cost no business can afford, financial decline. No one participated in WWII for profit, and no company would if it didn't involve profit.

Earlier I took your point to be made facetiously, now I'm less inclined to think you are jesting, so I tried a more reasoned response.

Its fun to point and laugh at politicians. To claim them inefficient, incompetent, greedy, etc., but at the end of the day it is our responsibility as citizens to do better if we think we can.
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Let's stay away from the partisan snipes please. Those belong in Political Outsider sub forum or not on this site.

Like that ever stopped anyone when Al Gore is mentioned.

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Nothing more than,

 

"Can I get a free iPad?"

 

"No."

 

"Meeting adjourned."

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Profits from over seas operations are taxed at the location of collection and in the US. The tax everyone is discussing is another tax that is applied when this double taxed monies are brought back. The US is one of 2 countries that have their citizens and businesses pay at home and overseas. Add on this repatriation tax and you see why businesses complain. Think of it as if your State decided to tax your Fed income tax refund...

Funny, because your federal income tax refund IS taxed as income ... because it was income that you would have excluded when filing for your state income taxes. Because you excluded it, then got it back, it becomes taxable income. The only time that's not true is if the state doesn't have an income tax.

 

I would also point out that there is a concept called reciprocity. You claim the taxes you pay to another foreign government as a reduction in your USA federal tax liability. This "double taxation" claim is pretty much false, and is nothing more than corporations (through their officers) trying to bring money to the USA without consequences. Fine. Leave it abroad. $0 in the USA is so much better than $100 billion minus 20%-30%.

 

- signed, an Apple shareholder


Edited by focher - 5/15/12 at 8:16pm
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It looks like Tim Cook rejected Boehner's appeal to make brown the new black. I would have liked to see Cook in the traditional black Apple garb, but I guess it never hurts to look like a suit in a suit. I'm sure they were discussing tax policy and other business-friendly ideas.

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There's nothing inherently wrong with having a dictatorship, it's the quality of the dictator that matter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher_king

 

It might not be bad if the government acted more like a company in that people were treated as valued customers to be pleased.

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Like that ever stopped anyone when Al Gore is mentioned.

Whether or not you've seen it, or whether you chose to believe it, I've stepped in against partisans of both sides. If I saw a potty-mouthed post trashing Gore, I would have deleted it, the same way I deleted a potty-mouthed comment trashing Boehner.
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Speaker of the House John Boehner's body language is almost 100% negative in the photo. He's also sitting in a defensive and judgmental position. I don't know what kind of body language Tim's using other than to say it has playful, non-serious elements that I've not seen in business meetings before. 

 

Tim is either wanting to ask for something he knows he's not going to get, or he's about to recite something that goes, "The itsy bitsy spider went up the water spout..."

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post #34 of 56

Wow - how sad. The last thing I want to see is Apple having to anything with that moron and his party. They represent everything that is wrong with this country. 

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Wow - how sad. The last thing I want to see is Apple having to anything with that moron and his party. They represent everything that is wrong with this country. 

Nope. People like you do.

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Dump your Apple stock now! An Apple official in a suit and tie? The end is nigh!! lol.gif

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Apple doesn't need a tax holiday - they should be able to bring in that cash using a simple US tax Less taxes paid overseas.  Not difficult to calculate and a reasonable approach.  

 

Obviously Apple can also use funds overseas to pay for costs overseas.  Component costs, production costs, R&D costs.  All can be covered in part from overseas cash.  

 

What the Republicans should be focused on for Apple is building up the middle class in order to enlarge that prime market, and to spend more on Education as Apple is doing well in that market.

 

Since 1980, inflation adjusted federal education spending is up approximately 400%.

 

Results are flat.

 

You think the problem is that we just aren't spending enough on education?

 

Sigh...

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Hand delivering the lobby check?

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Since 1980, inflation adjusted federal education spending is up approximately 400%.

 

Results are flat.

 

You think the problem is that we just aren't spending enough on education?

 

Sigh...

 

So the solution is to close up the department of Education as some Republicans are advocating and cut off all federal spending on education. That's sure to result is deflation right? Yeah right... I think it'll exacerbate the inflation problem in higher-ed.

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Wow - how sad. The last thing I want to see is Apple having to anything with that moron and his party. They represent everything that is wrong with this country. 

The House is where legislation starts, the Senate is just a house of review really. If you want a law passed you have to talk to the leader of the House.

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