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Google has announced that its $12.5 billion purchase of Motorola Mobility is completed and approved, officially bringing the search giant into the smartphone hardware business.

"I'm excited to announce today that our Motorola Mobility deal has closed," Google Chief Executive Larry Page wrote on the company's official blog on Tuesday. "Motorola is a great American tech company that has driven the mobile revolution, with a track record of over 80 years of innovation, including the creation of the first cell phone."

With the takeover complete, Sanjay Jha has resigned as CEO of Motorola, and has been replaced by Dennis Woodside, formerly Google's vice president of Americas Operations. Woodside's succession as Motorola Mobility CEO was first announced in February.

Though Google now officially owns Motorola Mobility, it plans to operate its acquisition as a separate business that will remain a licensee of Android. Google has said that will allow other Android-based smartphone makers, like Samsung and HTC, to compete without giving Motorola an unfair advantage.

The deal was cleared after months of regulatory approval, which concluded last week with a rubber stamp from the Chinese government. China was the final jurisdiction to grant approval after the merger was greenlit by the European Commission and U.S. Department of Justice.

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Google first announced last August that it had reached an agreement to buy Motorola Mobility for $12.5 billion. Outsiders have speculated that Google made the purchase to gain ownership of Motorola's extensive mobile patents, though Google officials have contended that the deal was instead for Motorola's products.

Motorola has seen its share of the worldwide mobile device market continue to slide as the smartphone race has increasingly become a showdown between Apple and Samsung. Data released last week by research firm Gartner showed that Motorola's share of mobile device sales slid from 2.1 percent in the first quarter of 2011 to 2 percent in the first quarter of 2012.

Along with Motorola's 17,000 patents, Google will also acquire the company's ongoing legal disputes, including a patent infringement case with Apple. The legal battle between Apple and Motorola already spans across multiple lawsuits in various countries.

Page asserted last August that "anticompetitive" patent litigation from Apple and Microsoft forced Google to buy Motorola Mobility. He argued that the acquisition of Motorola would increase competition by strengthening Google's patent portfolio, protecting the platform from litigation from Microsoft and Apple.
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Great news for Windows Mobile. They'll be the biggest beneficiary of this deal.

Not to mention Motorola's shareholders who got more than it was worth.
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Let the MMI layoffs begin...

 

Let the OEM Android desertions begin...

 

I see this as a big opportunity for Microsoft to pick up a large portion of the Android smartphone business...

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If Page calls Apple's suits as 'anticompetitive' I wonder what he calls Moto's FRAND violating tactics. Business as usual?

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Uh, Apple and many other companies "acquire" companies all the time to gain control of patents. Siri, emoji, and countless others. Didn't they purchase exclusive rights to that liquid metal for use in future products? How about that Israeli chip manufacturer? Let's even go back as far as the GUI from Xerox? And they didnt aquire that one 1wink.gif

It's common-place in this industry. Just this time it came to a very multi-$B sum and two very large companies. So spare me the evil Google malarkey. And don't give me the "big brother" speech either. Apple gathers just as much personal data that google does.
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Uh, Apple and many other companies "acquire" companies all the time to gain control of patents.

 

They don't steal from others first and buy second.

 

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And don't give me the "big brother" speech either. Apple gathers just as much personal data that google does.

 

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To answer the personal data gathering policies of apple. Note the bit about becoming part of a human cent-iPad 1wink.gif

[=http://www.apple.com/privacy/][/]

[=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703983704576277101723453610.html][/][/SPOILER]

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Let the MMI layoffs begin...

 

Let the OEM Android desertions begin...

 

I see this as a big opportunity for Microsoft to pick up a large portion of the Android smartphone business...

 

How will Microsoft do that?  Window Phone is a complete and total failure.  The OS is fugly and totally unusable not to mention several generations behind both iOS and Android.  Scrolling text to the right...LOL.

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How will Microsoft do that?  Window Phone is a complete and total failure.  The OS is fugly and totally unusable not to mention several generations behind both iOS and Android.  Scrolling text to the right...LOL.

I also agree that Windows Mobile will benefit from this. I wouldn't say that it's going to completely supplant Android, but it will gain share - mostly from Android. Several factors:

1. Google is now competing with its licensees. The licensees have no guarantees that they will be on a level playing field with Motorola.
2. While Google doesn't charge license fees for Android, Android licensees have to pay Microsoft about $10-15 per handset. That's probably comparable to what they'd pay to license Windows Mobile, so there's no financial disincentive to switching, at least as far as licensing is concerned.
3. In today's litigious environment, lawsuits have to be considered. Microsoft has a history of backing its licensees, Google does not. In fact, Google has gone out of its way to distance itself from any legal matters, which would make licensees nervous.
4. There are a number of legal decisions that have gone against Android. There is a risk that Android would suffer from additional injunctions that could interfere with their business. I'm not aware of any such issues with Windows Mobile.
5. Your characterization of Windows Mobile as a complete and total failure is grossly premature. There are a number of very positive reviews of Windows Mobile. Furthermore, Microsoft has a history of incremental improvements and turning an inadequate product into an adequate one over time.

I think you're going to see that your bluster is way off the mark in about 6 months.
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How will Microsoft do that?  Window Phone is a complete and total failure.  The OS is fugly and totally unusable not to mention several generations behind both iOS and Android.  Scrolling text to the right...LOL.

 

That's why I distinctly specified Android smartphone.

 

Some OEMs are already paying MS to use Android on their smartphones... why not just pay MS to use Windows 8 and, as a [very big] side benefit, not have to compete with your OS provider who also is a smart phone provider.

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I thought Google would back out and pay the breakup fee. I guess they still think buying Motorola is a good idea.

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Well, you can't say they weren't warned. This is their worst business decision since Android. Time will tell which is the most expensive mistake.
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I also agree that Windows Mobile will benefit from this. I wouldn't say that it's going to completely supplant Android, but it will gain share - mostly from Android. Several factors:
1. Google is now competing with its licensees. The licensees have no guarantees that they will be on a level playing field with Motorola.
2. While Google doesn't charge license fees for Android, Android licensees have to pay Microsoft about $10-15 per handset. That's probably comparable to what they'd pay to license Windows Mobile, so there's no financial disincentive to switching, at least as far as licensing is concerned.
3. In today's litigious environment, lawsuits have to be considered. Microsoft has a history of backing its licensees, Google does not. In fact, Google has gone out of its way to distance itself from any legal matters, which would make licensees nervous.
4. There are a number of legal decisions that have gone against Android. There is a risk that Android would suffer from additional injunctions that could interfere with their business. I'm not aware of any such issues with Windows Mobile.
5. Your characterization of Windows Mobile as a complete and total failure is grossly premature. There are a number of very positive reviews of Windows Mobile. Furthermore, Microsoft has a history of incremental improvements and turning an inadequate product into an adequate one over time.
I think you're going to see that your bluster is way off the mark in about 6 months.

 


Google has stated they will not give motorolla any special treatment. Second google is an Advertising company why would they risk cutting out potential eyes. They were also as part of the deal as speculated by china Supposed to keep android free and open for the next 5 years. So spare me with the Competing with their own OEMS they can't and won't shoot their self in the foot. This acquisition was solely for patents in less then three years motorola mobility will change hands again less patents. More evidence motorola is solely for patents the company does not have a large footprint outside of the United States. It would be moronic for google to purchase a company with the intention of doing vertical integration for android when that company has a comparatively small international footprint.
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Let the MMI layoffs begin...

 

Let the OEM Android desertions begin...

 

I see this as a big opportunity for Microsoft to pick up a large portion of the Android smartphone business...

 

You got it.

 

But before the huge exodus, we'll see a lot of new Google ads trying to convince their vendors that Motorola makes no difference and this is only for patent litigation -- which it MIGHT be, after all.

 

It seems that being a third party creator of Android phone is going to look as smart as having Samsung make your tablets. Sure -- you guys aren't going to be taking notes while we submit our apps -- are you?

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Wasn't this move supposed to ensure peace and security across the Old Republic?

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Google has stated they will not give motorolla any special treatment. Second google is an Advertising company why would they risk cutting out potential eyes. They were also as part of the deal as speculated by china Supposed to keep android free and open for the next 5 years. So spare me with the Competing with their own OEMS they can't and won't shoot their self in the foot. This acquisition was solely for patents in less then three years motorola mobility will change hands again less patents. More evidence motorola is solely for patents the company does not have a large footprint outside of the United States. It would be moronic for google to purchase a company with the intention of doing vertical integration for android when that company has a comparatively small international footprint.


That, of course, assumes that:
1. Google is telling the truth
and
2. The situation doesn't change in the future

Given Google's history, I would be very skeptical of either of those assumptions - particularly since Google has a history of favoring one phone over another when releasing reference phones.
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Uh, Apple and many other companies "acquire" companies all the time to gain control of patents. Siri, emoji, and countless others. Didn't they purchase exclusive rights to that liquid metal for use in future products? How about that Israeli chip manufacturer? Let's even go back as far as the GUI from Xerox? And they didnt aquire that one 1wink.gif
It's common-place in this industry. Just this time it came to a very multi-$B sum and two very large companies. So spare me the evil Google malarkey. And don't give me the "big brother" speech either. Apple gathers just as much personal data that google does.

 

I think you're missing the point.  The acquisition, and what Google has publicly stated about it are pretty much in opposition to everything they stand for and everything they have previously stated about what their intentions are both for open source in general and mobile specifically. Thus the hypocrisy. 

 

Also, over the years, both Google and Apple have set themselves up, and marketed themselves as being, companies that try to "do the right thing" in regards their customers.  In Google's case they actually even have that "do no evil" mantra. But while Apple has never been caught violating their core principles at all, Google is in fact operating almost completely at odds with what it previously stated it's core principles were.  

Thus "Google is evil now." 

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I also agree that Windows Mobile will benefit from this. I wouldn't say that it's going to completely supplant Android, but it will gain share - mostly from Android. Several factors:
1. Google is now competing with its licensees. The licensees have no guarantees that they will be on a level playing field with Motorola.
2. While Google doesn't charge license fees for Android, Android licensees have to pay Microsoft about $10-15 per handset. That's probably comparable to what they'd pay to license Windows Mobile, so there's no financial disincentive to switching, at least as far as licensing is concerned.
3. In today's litigious environment, lawsuits have to be considered. Microsoft has a history of backing its licensees, Google does not. In fact, Google has gone out of its way to distance itself from any legal matters, which would make licensees nervous.
4. There are a number of legal decisions that have gone against Android. There is a risk that Android would suffer from additional injunctions that could interfere with their business. I'm not aware of any such issues with Windows Mobile.
5. Your characterization of Windows Mobile as a complete and total failure is grossly premature. There are a number of very positive reviews of Windows Mobile. Furthermore, Microsoft has a history of incremental improvements and turning an inadequate product into an adequate one over time.
I think you're going to see that your bluster is way off the mark in about 6 months.

 

So by your logic, people will buy cloner Windows Phones because Google bought Motorola?   Never mind all the vendors which have cloner Windows Phones on the market right now, which are not selling because Windows Phone is garbage.  I think you are going to see that your bluster is WAY off the the mark....forever.

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Google has stated they will not give motorolla any special treatment. ...

 

Yeah, except they've subtly changed the story on what they are going to do with Moto a couple of times already.  At first they weren't interested in hardware at all, now they are going to operate it at "arms length" instead for instance. And the whole "arm's length" thing is just an old business dodge anyway.  Google is now a mobile hardware company regardless of how they want to spin it. 

 

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...They were also as part of the deal as speculated by china Supposed to keep android free and open for the next 5 years. ...
 

 

This is an empty and easy to realise promise if ever there was one.  Android is "free and open" now, (except it isn't).  

This statement isn't worth the electrons to show it on your screen. 

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Welcome to the plaintiff side of a lot of patent lawsuits, Google.

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Welcome to the plaintiff side of a lot of patent lawsuits, Google.

I think they get to be a defendant now.

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What Larry said: "I'm excited to announce today that our Motorola Mobility deal has closed..."

 

What Larry thought: "...but why do I feel like such a sucker?"

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So Android so far has cost Google billions with nothing to show for it. I wait for Google to collapse under its own weight.

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That's why I distinctly specified Android smartphone.

 

Some OEMs are already paying MS to use Android on their smartphones... why not just pay MS to use Windows 8 and, as a [very big] side benefit, not have to compete with your OS provider who also is a smart phone provider.

 

Then they'd have to compete with Nokia who have a special deal with Microsoft.

 

In addition manufacturers are not allowed to modify the look of the Windows Phone OS making it much harder to differentiate themselves from the competition.

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It will be interesting to see how this plays out with their cable box division.

If they start to push GoogleTV in cable boxes I fully suspect the government to step in.

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To answer the personal data gathering policies of apple. Note the bit about becoming part of a human cent-iPad 1wink.gif
[=http://www.apple.com/privacy/][/]
[=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703983704576277101723453610.html][/][/SPOILER]
Happy reading.

 

Google's mission statement is: "Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful."  While Google's mission statement alone isn't troublesome, Google's collection of personal information is quite troublesome because Google's business model is the aggregation of user's personal information in order to target advertising to users.  Thus, Google has far more personal information about users than governments or other businesses have about consumers.

 

  • Google gathers details of how you used their services, such as your search queries (1)
  • Google tracks cookies that may uniquely identify your browser or your Google Account  (1) 
  • Google collects telephony log information like your phone number, calling-party number, forwarding numbers, time and date of calls, duration of calls, SMS routing information and types of calls (1) 
  • Google logs device event information such as crashes, system activity, hardware settings, browser type, browser language, the date and time of your request and referral URL (1) 
  • Google collects device-specific information (such as your hardware model, operating system version, unique device identifiers, and mobile network information including phone number) Google may associate your device identifiers or phone number with your Google Account (1) 

 

While such information is gathered by competing products and services, Google's vast range of "products and services" uniquely positions Google to collect more information about consumers than any other company.  The problem with Google's vast network of information gathering is that Google has repeatedly demonstrated a lack of concern for consumers through their policies and practices.  Furthermore, Google has consistently used very expedient methods to comply with or meet demands whether those of stockholders or governments.  The vast amount of information collected by Google has arguably made Google the greatest threat to privacy ever known, a vast unsecured treasure trove of information that attracts hackers and online thieves, and; most worrisome; governments.

 

  • Google has done very little to protect Android users from malware.  Considering that many people have significant amounts of personal information on their mobile devices, I find this completely unacceptable.  
  • According to Sunnyvale, Calif., security firm Juniper Networks known instances of Android-related malware -- "virtually all" involving apps - have jumped steadily month by month from 400 in June 2011 to 15,507 in February 2012 (2)
  • "San Francisco-based Lookout Mobile Security reported In August 2011, that "an estimated half-million to one million people were affected by Android malware in the first half of 2011." (2)
  • Trend Micro of Japan, which has U.S. headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. - identified "more than 1,000 malicious Android apps" last year, 90 percent of them on Google's site and noted that the number of bad apps grew last year at 60 percent per month.  Trend Micro has estimated the total this year "will grow to more than 120,000," (2)
  • Google proclaims that "Since the beginning, we’ve focused on providing the best user experience possible. Whether we’re designing a new Internet browser or a new tweak to the look of the homepage, we take great care to ensure that they will ultimately serve you, rather than our own internal goal or bottom line." (3)  This is in direct conflict with Google's business model which serves advertisers and is a serious, undisclosed conflict of interest.
  • Google removed links to an anti-Scientology site after the Church of Scientology claimed copyright infringement in 2002. (4)
  • Google handed over the records of some users of its social-networking service, Orkut, to the Brazilian government, which was investigating alleged racist, homophobic, and pornographic content in September 2006. (4)
  • Google's mission statement "to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful" didn’t stop Google from censoring their Chinese search engine to gain access to a lucrative market. (4)
  • Privacy International has named Google the worst company in their 2007 survey and "hostile to privacy." (5)
  • Google has used their dominant position with Google Search to prefer Google+ search results and has published results that include personal data which doesn't provide an opt-out option. (6)
  • Google employees have vandalized OpenStreetMap by adding erroneous data. (7)

 

 

1.  http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/.  Google.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

2.  Steve Johnson.  Posted March 17, 2012.  Updated March 23, 2012.  http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_20182226/android-apps-targeted-by-malware?source=rss_viewed.  San Jose Mercury News.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

3.  http://www.google.com/about/company/philosophy/.  Google.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

4.   Adam L. Penenberg.  October 10, 2006.  http://motherjones.com/politics/2006/10/google-evil.  MotherJones.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

5.  Unattributed.  June 8, 2007.  https://www.privacyinternational.org/article/race-bottom-privacy-ranking-internet-service-companies.  Privacy International.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.
6.  John Fontana.  January 12, 2012  ZDNet.  Retrieved May 22, 2012.  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/identity/ftc-asked-to-probe-google-search-integration/143
7.  Lucian Parfeni.  January 17, 2012.  Softpedia.  Retrieved May 22, 2012.  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Accused-of-Vandalizing-OpenStreetMap-Data-246965.shtml
 

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Then they'd have to compete with Nokia who have a special deal with Microsoft.

 

In addition manufacturers are not allowed to modify the look of the Windows Phone OS making it much harder to differentiate themselves from the competition.

 

HTC Titan sales are performing well and many reviewers have referred to the HTC Titan as the flagship phone for the Microsoft Windows Phone platform.

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So Android so far has cost Google billions with nothing to show for it. I wait for Google to collapse under its own weight.

This is the simple, basic point that lots of folks are missing.

 

Thus far, Android had just about amounted to zilch by way of revenues and cash flows for Google.

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Google's mission statement is: "Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful."  While Google's mission statement alone isn't troublesome, Google's collection of personal information is quite troublesome because Google's business model is the aggregation of user's personal information in order to target advertising to users.  Thus, Google has far more personal information about users than governments or other businesses have about consumers.

 

........ETC ETC.....

 

1.  http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/.  Google.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

2.  Steve Johnson.  Posted March 17, 2012.  Updated March 23, 2012.  http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_20182226/android-apps-targeted-by-malware?source=rss_viewed.  San Jose Mercury News.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

3.  http://www.google.com/about/company/philosophy/.  Google.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

4.   Adam L. Penenberg.  October 10, 2006.  http://motherjones.com/politics/2006/10/google-evil.  MotherJones.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.

5.  Unattributed.  June 8, 2007.  https://www.privacyinternational.org/article/race-bottom-privacy-ranking-internet-service-companies.  Privacy International.  Retrieved March 29, 2012.
6.  John Fontana.  January 12, 2012  ZDNet.  Retrieved May 22, 2012.  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/identity/ftc-asked-to-probe-google-search-integration/143
7.  Lucian Parfeni.  January 17, 2012.  Softpedia.  Retrieved May 22, 2012.  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Accused-of-Vandalizing-OpenStreetMap-Data-246965.shtml
 

Superb post. Thanks.

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Your right. At the current rate Google is earning revenue off of Android, it would be 20 years before this deal pays for itself. Given they already have roughly 45-50% of smart phones sales, I don't see how dropping 12 Bil on Moto will help them achieve more growth. 

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This is the simple, basic point that lots of folks are missing.

 

Thus far, Android had just about amounted to zilch by way of revenues and cash flows for Google.

 

Personally, I can't wait for iOS 6 "Sundance."  If the rumors hold any truth, Apple will finally unveil their Map & Directions app with more than 17 years of collective development effort on June 11, 2012.  Furthermore, rumors have suggested Apple has been developing application programming interfaces for Siri, Apple's "Do Engine."  If Apple hits their target with both Map & Directions and Siri they may be able to effectively lock Google out of the iOS platform.  As Google representatives have stated that the lion's share of mobile platform profits is from iOS versus Android this may be the death knell for Google Android.  I certainly can't imagine stockholders are pleased with Android thus far since while platform growth is phenomenal their monetization of the Android platform is completely unsatisfactory.


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So by your logic, people will buy cloner Windows Phones because Google bought Motorola?   Never mind all the vendors which have cloner Windows Phones on the market right now, which are not selling because Windows Phone is garbage.  I think you are going to see that your bluster is WAY off the the mark....forever.

It would be really helpful if you'd pay attention. No one said any such thing.

What I said was that Microsoft would benefit because the HANDSET MANUFACTURERS would be nervous about Google (and other reasons). That means that handset manufacturers will probably put more time and energy into Windows Mobile than they would otherwise. Perhaps more WM phones and fewer Android phones. Perhaps more polish on the WM phones. Today, if you buy an HTC or Samsung phone, it's probably Android. After this deal closes, HTC, Samsung, and others will probably have more WM options.
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"Hello Go Go." (Sounds like Hello Moto? You get the idea...)

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There is no doubt that Google purchased Motorola Mobility for its patents......cause their products suck and I don't believe they can start designing decent ones just because they have a new owner.

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Lets assume that Motorola operate as a separate entity like Google says. The issue with Android OEM's is that Google is trying to gain more control of Android so they can make it a more consistent user experience. What that means is "get rid of the Android skins".

 

The problem is that to prevent their products from being commoditized the OEM's can only defferentiate on user feel (ie. skins and hardware). Already many Android handsets look the same and that is driving down their margins. As more and more OEMs fall in line with OEM to get a small leg up (smaller OEMs do this) the bigger OEMs are getting worried. So what can they do to stop their products from being commoditized. Well they can license multiple OSes such as WinMo and Tizen and Bada. It is not in the interests of the OEMs like Samsung for Android to be more important than their own brand so they need to make sure that Google is on notice that they will switch rather than lose profit margins.

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Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

Uh, Apple and many other companies "acquire" companies all the time to gain control of patents. Siri, emoji, and countless others. Didn't they purchase exclusive rights to that liquid metal for use in future products? How about that Israeli chip manufacturer? Let's even go back as far as the GUI from Xerox? And they didnt aquire that one 1wink.gif
It's common-place in this industry. Just this time it came to a very multi-$B sum and two very large companies. So spare me the evil Google malarkey. And don't give me the "big brother" speech either. Apple gathers just as much personal data that google does.

 

 

Yes, except with Apple you are the customer and its hardware is the product. With Google advertisers are the customer, and your information obtained through its free services is the product. That difference in philosophy will translate into one company treating you better than the other.  Further, Apple generally buys companies to incorporate the companies products into its own products. Siri is a prime example. Apple could have taken Google's approach and just steal Siri's technology, but it bought it instead. 

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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


It would be really helpful if you'd pay attention. No one said any such thing.
What I said was that Microsoft would benefit because the HANDSET MANUFACTURERS would be nervous about Google (and other reasons). That means that handset manufacturers will probably put more time and energy into Windows Mobile than they would otherwise. Perhaps more WM phones and fewer Android phones. Perhaps more polish on the WM phones. Today, if you buy an HTC or Samsung phone, it's probably Android. After this deal closes, HTC, Samsung, and others will probably have more WM options.

 

 

Hardware manufacturers probably would love to dump Android now. Except Motorola,  every Android  hardware manufacturer pays a royalty to Microsoft already which roughly translates to what they'd pay Microsoft for a OS license. Further, Microsoft indemnifies hardware partners from lawsuits over parents, something Google does not do. Manufacturers, however, aren't going to abandon Android unless they can get customers to use something else. 

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