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New parts claimed to be from unreleased Apple products purport to show a front panel for an iPod touch with a 4.1-inch screen, as well as new iPhone cameras.

Pictures of the components were published on Tuesday by MacRumors, with the most noteworthy among them the new, larger iPod touch front panel. The alleged part shows a design similar to the current iPod touch, but with a taller screen that would fit in with recent rumors that Apple is purchasing screens sized at least 4 inches for its next iPhone.

The iPhone and iPod touch currently have identical sized 3.5-inch Retina displays. The size of the iPhone and iPod touch displays has remained the same since the first iPhone launched in 2007.

Aside from the taller display, the purported iPod touch component still has space for a home button on the bottom, and a centered forward-facing camera on top of the screen.

Also included in the new pictures are claimed front and rear cameras for Apple's next-generation iPhone. The rear camera looks largely similar to previous iPhone cameras, however the pictured component does not feature a connected LED flash.

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The forward-facing camera pictured has a design that is a greater departure from the current iPhone 4S and previous iPhone 4. Also included among the parts is an alleged iPhone home button flex cable, that also suggests an internal redesign.

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Tuesday's leak is the latest claiming to show parts from Apple's next-generation iPhone. Earlier this month, components said to be from the headphone jack and earpiece for Apple's sixth-generation handset surfaced online, suggesting the internal components would see a significant redesign from the current iPhone 4S.

Also pictured earlier in May was a SIM tray claimed to be from Apple's next iPhone. That component sported subtle differences when compared to the SIM tray design found in the iPhone 4S and iPhone 4.

And in April, pictures of a new home button claimed to be for Apple's next iPhone surfaced online. That part suggested the next iPhone's home button will look largely the same as it always had, but also gave an indication that the part will be redesigned internally.

In March it was said that Apple was reviewing potential components for the new iPhone, which is expected to be released this fall, one year after the iPhone 4S. Rumors have suggested the new device will feature a redesigned exterior that will be a significant departure from the form factor of the iPhone 4S and iPhone 4.
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So, any word on whether or not the aspect ratio has changed?  Is the whole thing larger, or just the longer dimension?

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That's going to be an aspect ratio change...I'm going to guess 16:10 at 1024x640.

 

They're going to force every single iPhone app to move from 3:2 to 16:10 to gain 0.7" diagonal screen space?

 

Meh, I'm still guessing that the 4" displays are heading only to the iPod and it'll stay 960x640.

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So probably 16:10 with same portrait horizontal pixel count then, adding about a cm to the height?

I'm pretty sure this is exactly as predicted.
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So sad, if true.  Awful decision. 

 

I don't want a giant, long penis-shaped phone.  

I don't watch movies on my phone and that's pretty much the only winner with the longer screen IMO.  

 

I will reserve judgement until I see the whole design, but this year might be the first time I don't buy a new iPhone (and I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that way). 

 

16x9 is just stupid.  Why is the whole world changing everything around to support the makers of widescreen movies?  

There is much more to life than movies (books for example)

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They're going to force every single iPhone app to move from 3:2 to 16:10 to gain 0.7" diagonal screen space?

No. It'll be optional like retina graphics. Clearly Apple's focus with iOS has been continued software compatibility. No point doing it to iPod touch and not iPhone for manufacturing reasons.
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well, you know, 16:9 or 16:10 is pretty close to the golden rectangle...

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So sad, if true.  Awful decision. 

I don't want a giant, long penis-shaped phone.  
I don't watch movies on my phone and that's pretty much the only winner with the longer screen IMO.  

I will reserve judgement until I see the whole design, but this year might be the first time I don't buy a new iPhone (and I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that way). 

16x9 is just stupid.  Why is the whole world changing everything around to support the makers of widescreen movies?  
There is much more to life than movies (books for example)

Apart from your sig, you seem to be wrong about everything.
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well, you know, 16:9 or 16:10 is pretty close to the golden rectangle...

SJ is so behind putting golden rectangles in everything.
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So, any word on whether or not the aspect ratio has changed?  Is the whole thing larger, or just the longer dimension?

 

Of course the aspect ratio has changed. Look at it.

 

I sure as frick hope this isn't legit. Does it even look real to anyone? Looks like a render to me. And it's missing the light sensor.

 


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I don't want a giant, long penis-shaped phone.  

 

Agreed. I'd much rather have the "is that an iPhone in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me" line only be valid because of the single penis-shaped object in my pants.

 

Not that I imagine I'll ever have any sort of line directed at me, anyway. lol.gif

 

 

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I don't watch movies on my phone and that's pretty much the only winner with the longer screen IMO.  

 

I will reserve judgement until I see the whole design, but this year might be the first time I don't buy a new iPhone (and I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that way). 

 

16x9 is just stupid.  Why is the whole world changing everything around to support the makers of widescreen movies?  

There is much more to life than movies (books for example)

 

No, you're obviously overreacting. You're an idiot for thinking this, and I refuse to believe you have any interest in Apple at all.

 

Sorry, just trying out what people have said to me for saying the same thing. … It makes absolutely no sense from this end, either. Wonder why they do it. lol.gif

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post #11 of 76

If the new iPhone resolution changes to 1024 x 640 at 16:10, all old apps will still work perfectly fine without any adjustment. You'd just see black bars at the top bottom of the screen where pixels are not used.

 

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Of course the aspect ratio has changed. Look at it.

I sure as frick hope this isn't legit. Does it even look real to anyone? Looks like a render to me. And it's missing the light sensor.

Why do you hope this isn't legit? What's the downside I seem to be missing?

Good catch on the light sensor. Dunno bout FAKE! though.
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Why do you hope this isn't legit? What's the downside I seem to be missing?

 

A completely unusable screen ratio. If I can't use it with one hand without fear of dropping it during the course of use, there's no reason for me to buy it. 

 

Why should I have to move my grip around to be able to use it with a single hand? This isn't a TV remote control, for heaven's sake, and THAT nonsense needs to stop, too.

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post #14 of 76

Then simply don't buy it.

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Of course the aspect ratio has changed. Look at it.

I sure as frick hope this isn't legit. Does it even look real to anyone? Looks like a render to me. And it's missing the light sensor.



Agreed. I'd much rather have the "is that an iPhone in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me" line only be valid because of the single penis-shaped object in my pants.

Not that I imagine I'll ever have any sort of line directed at me, anyway. lol.gif



No, you're obviously overreacting. You're an idiot for thinking this, and I refuse to believe you have any interest in Apple at all.

Sorry, just trying out what people have said to me for saying the same thing. … It makes absolutely no sense from this end, either. Wonder why they do it. lol.gif

Penis-shaped? Really? Is it even longer?

And yeah obviously overreacting! Clearly an interest in apple but "movies... the only winner"? "reserve judgment"? "I'm sure I'm not alone"? "16x9 is just stupid"?

All considered, rational thoughts.
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Agreed. This would give developers time to upgrade their apps to fit all the iPhone screens, no matter what the aspect ratio is. 

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And yeah obviously overreacting! Clearly an interest in apple but "movies... the only winner"? "reserve judgment"? "I'm sure I'm not alone"? "16x9 is just stupid"?
All considered, rational thoughts.

 

No, I was making a joke about that. I share his beliefs. This is not a usable ratio for this kind of device.

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A completely unusable screen ratio. If I can't use it with one hand without fear of dropping it during the course of use, there's no reason for me to buy it. 

Why should I have to move my grip around to be able to use it with a single hand? This isn't a TV remote control, for heaven's sake, and THAT nonsense needs to stop, too.

Fair. I get pissed off having to tap back at the top now. The current TV remote standard needs to be dead and buried.
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No, I was making a joke about that. I share his beliefs. This is not a usable ratio for this kind of device.

Which is why I disagreed. Saying that it would be completely unusable is a blatant overreaction.
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A completely unusable screen ratio. If I can't use it with one hand without fear of dropping it during the course of use, there's no reason for me to buy it. 

 

Why should I have to move my grip around to be able to use it with a single hand? This isn't a TV remote control, for heaven's sake, and THAT nonsense needs to stop, too.

 

I find it hard to believe that Apple would enlarge the screen to a point where users have trouble operating it single-handedly. 

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I find it hard to believe that Apple would enlarge the screen to a point where users have trouble operating it single-handedly. 

Agreed. As if they haven't thought it through. Let's not forget iOS 6 may make changes.
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I find it hard to believe that Apple would enlarge the screen to a point where users have trouble operating it single-handedly. 


This part/render, if true, says otherwise.

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Why do you hope this isn't legit? What's the downside I seem to be missing?
Good catch on the light sensor. Dunno bout FAKE! though.

A lot of overreaction going on. NO NEED TO PANIC, GUYS! ITS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THE OLD! The 'phone feature' is probably one of the lesser used features on my iPhone so I welcome a bigger screen. I can learn to live with, and probably learn to love a new ratio. I don't mind if Apple mixes it up and gives me something new. I totally trust it will be worthwhile and well done. 

 

I used to, and still do if I can be bothered to think about it, that the current iPhone wastes a lot of real estate on the front. If those panels are real there is still some wasted space at the top. 

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Sorry, but I have to comment:

 

The human penis is not rectangular shaped.

 

I wonder did this person consider HDTV's penis shaped when we shifted from 4:3 to 16:9?

 

Anyway, I remember when the original iPhone came out and the rumors were all about a widescreen format and that meant 16:9 and it was a big disappointment when Apple announced the 4:3 ratio...people complained about the old CRT format and this and that...

 

For me, I welcome the 16:9 format and more real estate...I guess it is more inline with what I imagined the original widescreen intent to be and maybe why SJ was rumored to be closely involved.

 

But whatever, I will buy it regardless...I am a fanboy. 

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This part/render, if true, says otherwise.

You're the only one saying otherwise. Give us something to work with, an example of why.

Here's mine: "I don't think this'll be better for me because I get irrationally pissed off with stretching my thumb to tap on the back/up button. Also, taller makes me feel inadequate. "

Don't Panic. lol.gif
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Length isn't everything.  Girth is important too...

 

Okay, enough with the jokes.

 

My issue with this "enlargement" (last one promise) is that most of the time I'm not short length (hehe) but would appreciate a little more space width-wise when web browsing in portrait or height when browsing in landscape.

 

A 4.1" 3:2 display would be more useful in those scenarios other than watching movies than a 4.1" 16:10 one.  

 

Even for games...how many times in landscape did you wish the game screen was wider vs taller?  I like the ipad because it's taller.

 

And if you really were just adding length without changing the width why not reduce the size of the top and bottom bezel?  I agree that the bezel along the sides are as thin as practicable but the home button and top could be reduced to add those extra pixels without adding much to the device length.  I guess maybe the camera module gets in the way but I'd work hard to minimize making the device itself longer as much as practical.

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No, I was making a joke about that. I share his beliefs. This is not a usable ratio for this kind of device.

Based on your earlier comment about using it with one hand you would not be in favour of any increase in screen size, even one that retains the current 3:2 ratio because you feel it would make it difficult to reach all corners of the screen with your thumb. I get that. You represent a portion of the market.

 

However, there's a significant portion of the market that doesn't agree. Every day I see dozens of smart phone owners using two hands to interact with their devices. From landscape orientation games to two thumb typing to the giant Android phones that pretty much demand it, two handed operation is just as common as one handed.

 

Instead of trying to please everyone with a design that cannot possibly do that, I'd like to see Apple make two different sizes of iPhone: one for the 3.5" crowd and one or everyone else. Developers will gladly accept another resolution if Apple end-of-lifes the 3GS and its outdated 480x320 screen.

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The human penis is not rectangular shaped.

Sure it is - with rounded corners. That's not the dispute. Its the aspect ratio that is in question. But the truth is (and we all know it),  that all penises have its own unique aspect ratio. The Golden Rule, be damned. Don't buy into the 1/3 rule. Its just marketing and it will just get you depressed. Be proud of your own unique ratio.

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Based on your earlier comment about using it with one hand you would not be in favour of any increase in screen size, even one that retains the current 3:2 ratio because you feel it would make it difficult to reach all corners of the screen with your thumb. I get that. You represent a portion of the market.

 

One-handed operation is a must...ROFLMAO.

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Length isn't everything.  Girth is important too...

Okay, enough with the jokes.

My issue with this "enlargement" (last one promise) is that most of the time I'm not short length (hehe) but would appreciate a little more space width-wise when web browsing in portrait or height when browsing in landscape.

A 4.1" 3:2 display would be more useful in those scenarios other than watching movies than a 4.1" 16:10 one.  

Even for games...how many times in landscape did you wish the game screen was wider vs taller?  I like the ipad because it's taller.

And if you really were just adding length without changing the width why not reduce the size of the top and bottom bezel?  I agree that the bezel along the sides are as thin as practicable but the home button and top could be reduced to add those extra pixels without adding much to the device length.  I guess maybe the camera module gets in the way but I'd work hard to minimize making the device itself longer as much as practical.

Those are all great points. The problem with having a larger girth is that it needs a larger grip! Lots of ladies, for example, have a significantly smaller span...
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Sorry, but I have to comment:

 

The human penis is not rectangular shaped.

 

I wonder did this person consider HDTV's penis shaped when we shifted from 4:3 to 16:9?

 

Anyway, I remember when the original iPhone came out and the rumors were all about a widescreen format and that meant 16:9 and it was a big disappointment when Apple announced the 4:3 ratio...people complained about the old CRT format and this and that...

 

For me, I welcome the 16:9 format and more real estate...I guess it is more inline with what I imagined the original widescreen intent to be and maybe why SJ was rumored to be closely involved.

 

But whatever, I will buy it regardless...I am a fanboy. 

 

LOL.  Exactly what I was thinking.  Anyone who claims any (relatively) thin, rectangular object is "penis shaped" clearly lacks reasoning ability.  That or they need to see a doctor ASAP to find out what kind of cancerous tumor has severely mangled their own.

 

I seriously doubt there will be a change in aspect ratio, but I wouldn't mind a larger screen even at the cost of a slightly larger phone.  If you look at the 4/4s bezel, there's quite a bit of wasted room that could be better utilized.  above and below the screen is a whole other story, where Apple seems to have wasted an MFT of space.

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Sure it is - with rounded corners. That's not the dispute. Its the aspect ratio that is in question. But the truth is (and we all know it),  that all penises have its own unique aspect ratio. The Golden Rule, be damned. Don't buy into the 1/3 rule. Its just marketing and it will just get you depressed. Be proud of your own unique ratio.

 

Ok...well for all of you with rectangular box shaped rounded cornered penises...my heart goes out to you. 

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Apart from your sig, you seem to be wrong about everything.

 

I comfort myself with the fact that at least I don't throw out casual personal insults with no explanation to absolute strangers.  

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16x9 is just stupid.  Why is the whole world changing everything around to support the makers of widescreen movies?  

There is much more to life than movies (books for example)

 

I don't understand your dislike - more screen for movies also means more screen for lines of a book's page, more screen for scrolling news stories, a slight image enlargement for landscape viewing of web pages, etc.

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One-handed operation is a must...ROFLMAO.

Isn't it up to the app developer to put buttons within one-handed reach?

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http://************/2012/05/22/likely-next-generation-iphone-with-3-9-inch-display-1136-x-640-resolution-in-testing/

 

Yes!!! Finally! 

Now please remove the Home button in iPhone7 and make the case shorter. That would be the final destination.

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People whined when the form was the same.  People whine when it is different.  People are funny...
 

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You're the only one saying otherwise. Give us something to work with, an example of why.

 

So you've never held a TV remote? Or an Android phone of this size?

 

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Now please remove the Home button in iPhone7…

 

Hardware. Out.

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Not personal. An explanation:
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So sad,
Not sad.
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if true.
Still in the realms of debate, but pretty much a dead cert at this point.
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 Awful decision. 
Not by any means awful, nor decided.
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I don't want a giant, long penis-shaped phone.
It's not that, but yeah that would be weird on your face.  
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I don't watch movies on my phone and that's pretty much the only winner with the longer screen IMO.
Probably not the only advantage of more real-estate.
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I will reserve judgement until I see the whole design, but this year might be the first time I don't buy a new iPhone (and I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that way). 
May be best to wait a bit tbh, but tbf you may not buy one anyway, that's cool.
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16x9 is just stupid.
Bet's probably on the ~golden 16x10, but whatever 16x9 isn't "just stupid" dude.
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Why is the whole world changing everything around to support the makers of widescreen movies?
The whole wide world? Although a good reason most of us here don't have PC laptops.
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There is much more to life than movies (books for example)
I apologise, this, this is true. Though somewhat irrelevant. iBooks will survive the terrible, horrific transition, I'm sure!
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http://9to5m*c.com/2012/05/22/likely-next-generation-iphone-with-3-9-inch-display-1136-x-640-resolution-in-testing

Yes!!! Finally! 
Now please remove the Home button in iPhone7 and make the case shorter. That would be the final destination.

I like the design of the one at that link (the location gets censored by the forum unfortunately) but 16:9 is not a good ratio and the home button is removed. The one in the article photo seems to be around the following size, give or take:

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The screen size chosen is the perfect compromise and really not much larger than the current iPhone as they shaved down the bezels by about half. 1280 x 800 would be quite good as 720p content is native but 1024 x 640 would be a good size to go with.

This won't affect most iOS content because of resolution independence in iOS 6 and also because most content will scale seamlessly. Games can be set to a different OpenGL context resolution and it will just resterize at that resolution. I don't really know why they haven't done this on every game (maybe cashing in on the iPad versions).

I hope this is the size of both the next iPhone and iPod.
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