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The U.S. Transportation Security Administration is set to initiate a pilot program to purchase up to $3 million dollars worth of Apple hardware over the next three years, including 1,000 Macs and 1,000 mobile devices.

Outlined in a document filed earlier in May (via NextGov), the Apple hardware and software will find use in certain areas of TSA's Risk Based Counter-Terrorism mission and are deemed "critical to meet a variety of operational, programmatic, and mission specific requirements."

Normally, government organizations must allow for full and open competition contracting practices sanctioned Federal Acquisition Regulation, but the TSA argues that only Apple products will fit the needs required by the program and has filed for Class Justification and Approval to that end.

Speaking to why competing contracts are impossible, it was noted that Apple's OS X and iOS platforms are locked to hardware made by the company, thus no competing manufacturer exists. In defense of its removal of barriers to competition, the TSA said that "until such a time as Apple allows other operating systems to function its hardware the requirement to obtain Apple products by means other than full and open competition will continue to exit."

According to the filing, the equipment will "fill a gap" in the TSA's existing hardware ecosystem and is intended to be used in media production, forensic network and computer examinations, mobile operations, training and software development, among others. TSA's Apple plans stem from a 2009 effort to diversify and mobilize the organization's IT model to make a more flexible and effective workforce.

Interestingly, the agency said that nearly every government and commercial organization first releases apps for Apple's iOS and subsequently rolls out Android version of the same software. The note reveals that many of the 106 publicly available government-written apps, like Smartraveler, FBI, FCC and EPA, are only available on iDevices.

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The TSA's own public app, MyTSA, provides travelers with security wait times, weather and other tools.



The document notes that while the agency has existing Microsoft Windows and RIM BlackBerry capabilities, a "public driven demand for mobility" has pushed the TSA toward Apple, saying that the company is "one of the major OEMs today that produce a widely used full suite of hardware, software and licensing," It was also mentioned that a separate similar request is being filed for Google's Android platform, but details are currently unavailable.

The organization is covering all the bases and lists the following proposed procurements: any products currently within or added to the Apple line of products to include but not limited to computers, iPads, iPhones, iPods, Apple TVs, Apple OS, App Store apps, peripherals and accessories such as monitors, extended warranties and repairs, including AppleCare, required to support the Apple product line in an enterprise/production environment.

The TSA is the latest government agency to dabble in iOS device procurement and follows steps taken by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the Bureau of Tabacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to move away from the once ubiquitous BlackBerry platform. Earlier in May it was reported that federal managers were quickly ditching BlackBerry devices in favor of iOS and Android devices
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Good for Apple, bad for the country.

Sadly the expansion of the TSA is just another Obama mistake. I want to see Apple establish itself in business and government but not at the expense of further encroachment on our freedom. Apple should politely decline the sale.
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Can't wait to get my hands on this!

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This is the best thing the TSA has ever done for the country!
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The TSA is an organization noted for its reasonable, well thought out procedures and decisions.  They have kept us safe.

 

Unfortunately the law of diminishing returns started to apply LONG ago for the TSA. They passed reasonable a few years back going 120 in a 35MPH zone.

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This is the best thing the TSA has done for this country!

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I took this as immense sarcasm. Was I wrong? 

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And in other news,  Al Qaeda is implementing a "Bring Your Own Device" (BYOD) program for its members.  

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TSA needs to vanish faster than the Patriot Act. Only place where you can molest children and get away with it outside of the Catholic church.

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Finally, the Government is stepping up and buying more advanced forms of computing.  I guees the Federal Government is turning into a bunch of switchers.  YEAH...

 

And what is Steve Ballmer doing?  Who?

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This is good news.

 

The TSA is an organization noted for its reasonable, well thought out procedures and decisions.  They have kept us safe.

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Good for Apple, bad for the country.
Sadly the expansion of the TSA is just another Obama mistake. I want to see Apple establish itself in business and government but not at the expense of further encroachment on our freedom. Apple should politely decline the sale.

We actually do need the TSA, it's just that SOME people are not exactly doing the best job.  With anything, there are always a few bad apples in the bunch.  Do you want to have another 911 attack? I don't.  Do you?

 

I've NEVER had any problems going through airport security. It might a little extra time, but that's about it.  I knew of someone that did, and apparently he had a loaded weapon, but it was only used to protect himself since he is a dealer of expensive jewelry/art as he travels with expensive items that could easily get ripped off, but he should just been a little more careful in how he transported the freaking thing when traveling on an airplane.

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We actually do need the TSA, it's just that SOME people are not exactly doing the best job.  With anything, there are always a few bad apples in the bunch.  Do you want to have another 911 attack? I don't.  Do you?

 

I've NEVER had any problems going through airport security. It might a little extra time, but that's about it.  I knew of someone that did, and apparently he had a loaded weapon, but it was only used to protect himself since he is a dealer of expensive jewelry/art as he travels with expensive items that could easily get ripped off, but he should just been a little more careful in how he transported the freaking thing when traveling on an airplane.

 

No, they do not do any good at all. Numerous people have shown that the current security is a joke when they can get weapons past. There is zero reason for their invasive tactics, their disregard for human compassion such as destroying vital medical equipment, stealing money, arresting people who refuse the pat downs, using equipment that they lied about the radiation levels, and the legalized sexual assault against citizens. Don't want your child to be molested and voice your concerns? Off to jail you go! These aren’t isolated incidents, they happen quite frequently.

 

This post 9/11 justification for removing our rights is the name of "national security" an abomination. Let me guess, Republican?

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No, they do not do any good at all. Numerous people have shown that the current security is a joke when they can get weapons past. There is zero reason for their invasive tactics, their disregard for human compassion such as destroying vital medical equipment, stealing money, arresting people who refuse the pat downs, using equipment that they lied about the radiation levels, and the legalized sexual assault against citizens. Don't want your child to be molested and voice your concerns? Off to jail you go! These aren’t isolated incidents, they happen quite frequently.

 

This post 9/11 justification for removing our rights is the name of "national security" an abomination. Let me guess, Republican?

 

Republican? What Republican in their right mind would support the TSA. They are a disaster! They should be disbanded and the airlines and airports should be jointly held responsible for security.

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Republican? What Republican in their right mind would support the TSA. They are a disaster! They should be disbanded and the airlines and airports should be jointly held responsible for security.

 

 

Neo-conservatives sure love police state tactics since 9/11. It's like they fell in love with 1984 and wanted to make it a reality after 9/11.

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TSA needs to vanish faster than the Patriot Act. Only place where you can molest children and get away with it outside of the Catholic church.

So how many children have actually been molested?  I saw the video on the little girt.  First off, if you are traveling to an airport and YOU KNOW that people have to be screened, The little girl shouldn't have been wearing such a skimpy outfit.  Sorry, I call foul on the parents for that one.  Secondly, if the metal detectors goes off TWICE, everyone regardless of age/gender has to be hand searched, which was all the TSA woman was doing. The problem is the girl was crying because they took her teddy bear away from her to run it through the X-ray machine, Mandy is just a little girl and she doesn't understand what is going on and she is crying because they took her teddy bear away from her for a couple of minutes.  The TSA woman was doing what she is REQUIRED to do.  Now, MOST people wouldn't think that the little girl is packing anything to cause alarm.  Yes, other countries have children involved with carrying bombs etc. and that's not normal for this country.  The best thing I can suggest is that parents with children should make sure their kids understand that anything they carry is going to be TEMPORARILY taken away, they should dress the kids with proper attire for traveling and being searched in a airport and think about what they might be wearing that could set off these metal detectors.  Yeah, it was unfortunate in the case that the little girl started crying, but under the circumstances, I don't see a big deal, I wouldn't not call it molestation for harm to the child, and I wouldn't do anything for the mother except apologize for the inconvenience and maybe give the kid a lolly pop or a little toy much like Doctors and Dentists do when there is a little discomfort.  Some kids react a lot more than others.  But molestation?  NO. That wasn't molestation, that was just a pat down for about a minute while the girl was throwing a temper tantrum because the woman doing it was probably intimidating because she was rather large and black and they took her teddy bear to have it scanned.  I don't know if they could have handled it any better under the circumstances.

 

One thing i notice about the media, whenever there is a case like these RARE instances, they get so blown out of proportion that when you find out REALITY, it is nothing more than some traveler making a big deal out of something. 

 

The full body scans are not done on EVERYONE, they are done only in certain circumstances and it is VERY difficult thing for TSA to do in the first place to ensure safety and doing it without violating one's rights, or making someone feel like they were molested.  Yeah, it sucks, but they have to do something and while technology changes to scan for weapons and substances that are illegal, they have to deal with certain protocol, personnel, etc.

 

I am NOT suggesting that the TSA is right in all cases, but there are RARE instances and blowing it out of proportion like this is distorting reality. As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, the whole Religion idea is a scam in the first place, so if you go into a Catholic Church, as far as I am concerned, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM.  You get what you get because your walking into a Religious Cult building.

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No, they do not do any good at all. Numerous people have shown that the current security is a joke when they can get weapons past. There is zero reason for their invasive tactics, their disregard for human compassion such as destroying vital medical equipment, stealing money, arresting people who refuse the pat downs, using equipment that they lied about the radiation levels, and the legalized sexual assault against citizens. Don't want your child to be molested and voice your concerns? Off to jail you go! These aren’t isolated incidents, they happen quite frequently.

 

This post 9/11 justification for removing our rights is the name of "national security" an abomination. Let me guess, Republican?

How many times has someone gotten a weapon passed through security?  Maybe they needed to step it up at that location.    Molestation is when their is physical harm or sexual connotation. In the case I saw, there wasn't ANY of either.  It was just a simple pat down in FRONT of her mother and the kid was crying because she was probably too young to understand. I am sure that little girl is going to grow up unaffected by the little pat down.  It wasn't that big of a deal.

 

Oh come on, some people take the littlest situation and try to blow it out of proportion.  How many ACTUAL legitimate cases have their been compared to how many people pass through those security checkpoints?  About 1.5 Million people go through the TSA checkpoints DAILY.  Now, I've heard that these women get all freaked out when they go through those body scanners.  First, off, the people are looking for weapons, and it shows a skeleton.   Those people don't have the time to figure out how attractive one person is over the other.  It's like going through a doctor's office and getting examined, only you are going through that body scan machine for about a minute and they are not looking at your naked body, they are looking a skeleton.  The people see thousands of people a day and their not there to get their sexual jollies out of it.  They are looking for weapons and illegal substances.

 

If I am there, i tell the child first, that they have to go through a security check point and a stranger might take their hands and run it up and down their body to search for weapons, etc.  And i would show them first what they are going to do so they don't freak out.  That's the parents role for God's sake.  Then I would dress them appropriately, I would make sure that anything they are carrying is clean and make sure they know that if they carry a teddy bear or some doll, that it will be taken away from them temporarily so they don't freak out and make things worse.  It's all about being a RESPONSIBLE parent in the first place and letting them know is OK and what ISN'T OK.

 

NO.  I am not a Republican   See, you already passed judgement and you make me sound like I am a Republican. I am actually not really anything from a political perspective, just what is the RIGHT thing to do, but since I am not a security expert, all I am doing is exerting some common sense and not letting the media influence my own values and sensibilities.  The media is there to get attention to sell newspapers, get people watching their TV show and to get people all paranoid and freaked out.  Some people see one thing without really taking a look into what is REALLY going on with each particular case.

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Neo-conservatives sure love police state tactics since 9/11. It's like they fell in love with 1984 and wanted to make it a reality after 9/11.

 

They do?... They did?

 

I thought those who benefit the most (military contractors, Washington lobbyists and insiders, corrupt politicians, fear-mongering media) were in favor of police state tactics.

 

Did you know the former Secretary of Homeland Security directly benefits from the so-called "naked scanners" that were pushed onto airport security? Michael Chertoff has a financial interest in a company that represents the companies that make the scanners!

 

Incidentally, I (accidentally) got through a large 6-pack of liquids in my carry-on luggage not long after the "no liquids" nonsense went into effect. It's all bunk.


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Instead of complaining about being searched and screened, you should get yourself registered as a known traveler and just walk right through. If you don't qualify then you have to stand in line and empty your pockets.

 

There are some really shady looking people traveling on airplanes these days and they need to be searched. The thing about searching old ladies and children is just so they don't get sued for profiling. 

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How many times has someone gotten a weapon passed through security?  Maybe they needed to step it up at that location.    Molestation is when their is physical harm or sexual connotation. In the case I saw, there wasn't ANY of either.  It was just a simple pat down in FRONT of her mother and the kid was crying because she was probably too young to understand. I am sure that little girl is going to grow up unaffected by the little pat down.  It wasn't that big of a deal.

 

Oh come on, some people take the littlest situation and try to blow it out of proportion.  How many ACTUAL legitimate cases have their been compared to how many people pass through those security checkpoints?  About 1.5 Million people go through the TSA checkpoints DAILY.  Now, I've heard that these women get all freaked out when they go through those body scanners.  First, off, the people are looking for weapons, and it shows a skeleton.   Those people don't have the time to figure out how attractive one person is over the other.  It's like going through a doctor's office and getting examined, only you are going through that body scan machine for about a minute and they are not looking at your naked body, they are looking a skeleton.  The people see thousands of people a day and their not there to get their sexual jollies out of it.  They are looking for weapons and illegal substances.

 

If I am there, i tell the child first, that they have to go through a security check point and a stranger might take their hands and run it up and down their body to search for weapons, etc.  And i would show them first what they are going to do so they don't freak out.  That's the parents role for God's sake.  Then I would dress them appropriately, I would make sure that anything they are carrying is clean and make sure they know that if they carry a teddy bear or some doll, that it will be taken away from them temporarily so they don't freak out and make things worse.  It's all about being a RESPONSIBLE parent in the first place and letting them know is OK and what ISN'T OK.

 

NO.  I am not a Republican   See, you already passed judgement and you make me sound like I am a Republican. I am actually not really anything from a political perspective, just what is the RIGHT thing to do, but since I am not a security expert, all I am doing is exerting some common sense and not letting the media influence my own values and sensibilities.  The media is there to get attention to sell newspapers, get people watching their TV show and to get people all paranoid and freaked out.  Some people see one thing without really taking a look into what is REALLY going on with each particular case.

IF anything,. the media is probably the worst offender by making such a big deal and putting the video up in the first place..   I would be more upset with the media than the TSA.

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Republican? What Republican in their right mind would support the TSA.

I certainly don't like to get into online political debates on what one politician theoretically would or wouldn't do based on some presumption about their positions but I will point out this simple fact:
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The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 19, 2001. Originally part of the United States Department of Transportation, the TSA was moved to the Department of Homeland Security on March 25, 2003.

Only looking at the names involved we see that 2 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat.

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 It's all bunk.

Do you lock your car, your house, set your alarm, turn your light on a timer when you are away on vacation? Of course you do, because there are evil people out there who want to harm you and you would rather not make it easy for them.

 

Considering the potential catastrophic consequences which could result in not taking precautions with airline travelers, do you think that any government would risk not doing everything possible to prevent evil people from harming innocent citizens?  

 

Any reasonable person can easily understand why they have to do what they do, even if it is very inconvenient and annoying for honest law abiding citizens.

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after the "no liquids" nonsense went into effect. It's all bunk.

 

It really isn't bunk:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-plot-to-bring-down-britains-planes/4od

 

to quote the programme:

 

Anyone who travels by plane is well aware of the ban on drinks bottles in hand luggage; but few people know exactly why.

The reason dates back to 2006 when a group of young British men from Walthamstow, East London, planned to blow up multiple airliners, departing from Heathrow, simultaneously in mid-flight, with explosives disguised as soft drinks.

 

 

Fortunately it was you carrying liquids by mistake and not somebody with sinister liquids and intent.

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I certainly don't like to get into online political debates on what one politician theoretically would or wouldn't do based on some presumption about their positions but I will point out this simple fact:
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The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 19, 2001. Originally part of the United States Department of Transportation, the TSA was moved to the Department of Homeland Security on March 25, 2003.
Only looking at the names involved we see that 2 are Republicans and 1 is a Democrat.

 

But what has the sitting president done, along with Congress, to reverse or slow the constitutionally questionable encroachments that were initiated under Bush? Nothing, despite virtually no credible Republican opposition the first 2 years in office. No, the problem isn't Republican or Democrat... the problem is Washington and a class of politicians and the American voters who are so ignorant that they do not that realize restraint of government is not only a good thing, but the reason for the founding of this country!


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Finally, the Government is stepping up and buying more advanced forms of computing.  I guees the Federal Government is turning into a bunch of switchers.  YEAH...

 

And what is Steve Ballmer doing?  Who?

 

Chairs are being thrown in the Executive Suite. Monkey boy is in full sweat.

 

Reading these headlines brings back old memories of when the shoe was on the other foot and specs were being written around "Windows only." 

 

It won't be until 2013 before Microsoft will have anywhere near the ecosystem Apple had three years ago. By then Apple will have upped the bar and maybe added an additional iDevice to the mix. Apple disrupts the industry at least two times a year and keeps the competition a bit off-balance on a regular basis.

 

What has surprised me is how badly the Nokia/Windows phone did in the marketplace. I really expected the Microsoft/Windows names would make a difference. It's as if, "It isn't an Apple or Android device, why should I care?" A 20 year-old couldn't drive when the iPhone hit the market. The iPad will be close to four years old by the time MSFT gets back into the phone/tablet market...there's been a lot of mindshare lost by MSFT...

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It really isn't bunk:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-plot-to-bring-down-britains-planes/4od

 

to quote the programme:

 

 

Fortunately it was you carrying liquids by mistake and not somebody with sinister liquids and intent.

 

Actually, I was not suggesting that there aren't people attempting to do bad things to passengers and planes. Because the TSA is run by government, they have to adhere to ridiculous restrictions on treating passengers unequally, aka "profiling". Privately run security would not face this same restriction.

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Good for Apple, bad for the country.
Sadly the expansion of the TSA is just another Obama mistake. I want to see Apple establish itself in business and government but not at the expense of further encroachment on our freedom. Apple should politely decline the sale.

I micturate upon your suggestion. 

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But what has the sitting president done, along with Congress, to reverse or slow the constitutionally questionable encroachments that were initiated under Bush? Nothing, despite virtually no credible Republican opposition the first 2 years in office. No, the problem isn't Republican or Democrat... the problem is Washington and a class of politicians and the American voters who are so ignorant that they do not that realize restraint of government is not only a good thing, but the reason for the founding of this country!
Ill try again to talk about politics without talking about politics...

I have no recollection of the current president saying he was for or against increasing the TSA but that's not your original comment. You seem to want to focus on a partisan argument as your initial reply stated that no Republican would support the TSA despite plenty of proof that it was created and approved by many Republicans.

As for the sitting president having no Republican opposition that is simply not true. It's been a running joke that Republicans will take the opposite stance of the Obama administration regardless of what it is. We have 4 years of John Boehner and this year's Republican debates to draw from. Whether they are just disagreeing to disagree or really believe their positions is another matter I refuse to get into but there is plenty of evidence to show fervent opposition to anything Obama does.

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For those who still think that TSA is anything more than security theater designed to make you feel safer without actually doing much of anything. I give you this http://gmancasefile.blogspot.com/2012/01/tsa-fail.html
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I am not getting to any political position on this but I have to ask.  What do all those that seem to despise the TSA suggest as an alternative?  I don't know of a first world country that doesn't have stringent security checks. Most, if not all, have had them far longer than here.  I was always amazed how I was thoroughly screened leaving the UK or any European airport to fly to America but had zero checks boarding in the States for the return flight.  I flew back and forth most months for many years. Only after 911 did the screening become similar on both ends sadly too late for that event.

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Republican? What Republican in their right mind would support the TSA. They are a disaster! They should be disbanded and the airlines and airports should be jointly held responsible for security.

They were. Then they let 9/11 happen… we've been through this. Much like the loosening of regulations for banks & other financial services industry, resulting in the Greats, Recession & Depression & '80s S&L implosion. Oh joy, I do so enjoy our cyclical society

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But what has the sitting president done, along with Congress, to reverse or slow the constitutionally questionable encroachments that were initiated under Bush? Nothing, despite virtually no credible Republican opposition the first 2 years in office. No, the problem isn't Republican or Democrat... the problem is Washington and a class of politicians and the American voters who are so ignorant that they do not that realize restraint of government is not only a good thing, but the reason for the founding of this country!

There wasn't any planes and terrorist bomb attacks when this country was founded, so I don't know what would have been allowed and not allowed back then..  Well, do you HAVE to travel by plane in this country?  NO.  You can take a bus, a car, a train, a boat, etc.  This is only when you go to the airport.  I am still trying to figure out one' s civil rights being violated?  Being searched at an airport?  Its' the same people that get all bent out of shape if they go through a publicized checkpoint for DUI and they get asked to see their registration and driver's license.  Before they had the TSA at airports, we had people taking control over a plane and flying them into various buildings.  Which do you want?

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There wasn't any planes and terrorist bomb attacks when this country was founded, so I don't know what would have been allowed and not allowed back then..  Well, do you HAVE to travel by plane in this country?  NO.  You can take a bus, a car, a train, a boat, etc.  This is only when you go to the airport.  I am still trying to figure out one' s civil rights being violated?  Being searched at an airport?  Its' the same people that get all bent out of shape if they go through a publicized checkpoint for DUI and they get asked to see their registration and driver's license.  Before they had the TSA at airports, we had people taking control over a plane and flying them into various buildings.  Which do you want?

I have more than 4 million lifetime air miles, so it affects me far more than the vast majority of people here. And I've traveled over half a million of those miles with my family. From my perspective, it's nothing more than a minor inconvenience. You plan appropriately, pack appropriately, arrive at the airport a few minutes early, and it's absolutely no big deal.

The whining comes most often from people who think the rules shouldn't apply to them. It amazes me how many times I've seen people get into fights with TSA over a 16 ounce bottle of shampoo in their carry on. And they're usually in the 'experienced traveler' line, so they're either lying about being an experienced traveler to get the faster lines or they should know better.

People need to grow up. It's no more a violation of your civil rights than a 65 mile per hour speed limit is.
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Good for Apple, bad for the country.
Sadly the expansion of the TSA is just another Obama mistake. I want to see Apple establish itself in business and government but not at the expense of further encroachment on our freedom. Apple should politely decline the sale.

 

Politely decline the sale? What does that even mean? 

 

You want them to refuse sale of their product to government agencies? What about people who bought Apple products that ended up as murderers, rapists, thieves, etc? Should Apple run a background check on all its customers, and maybe put them through lie detector tests to make sure they might not use the product for any immoral purpose, or one that Apple does not agree with? Or maybe they should make sure to only sell their products to members of a certain political party, and veto others? 

 

Sometimes I wonder what planet some of you live on, because some of the serious suggestions I've seen on this board are beyond insane and utterly deluded.  

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I personally carried a 7" switchblade collectors' knife past TSA and through the XRay machine at LAX in December 2008.  The TSA are buffoons, imbeciles, and should be dissolved immediately.  

 

Of course, the SEIU will have different ideas about that...

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I personally carried a 7" switchblade collectors' knife past TSA and through the XRay machine at LAX in December 2008.  The TSA are buffoons, imbeciles, and should be dissolved immediately.

 

Hmm ... care to try that a few more times? The buffoons won't catch it, right?

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Sadly, airport security is a total joke. While they strip search your 3-year old and grammy most planes carry tons of totally unchecked AIRMAIL PARCELS! 

 

The front door looks like Fort Knox but the back doors are wide open! People seem to forget that airport scanners were introduced after the underwear bomber false flag operation. There are many documentaries on this including:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtDxX784L2k

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3cAbw_wdcU

 

http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

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I personally carried a 7" switchblade collectors' knife past TSA and through the XRay machine at LAX in December 2008.  The TSA are buffoons, imbeciles, and should be dissolved immediately.  

 

Of course, the SEIU will have different ideas about that...

 

So, what do you suggest? I'm serious. The TSA is bashed for being both too lax and too stringent. Millions of people pass through security every single day. No system can provide 100% security and catch everything while with this kind of time-sensitive and complex traffic flow covering every demographic possible with only a few seconds to spare for each person. Yet, the TSA are 'buffoons, imbeciles, and should be dissolved immediately'? You do realize the TSA is composed of thousands of people, right? So are they all buffoons? 80%? Or do they become buffoons automatically when they start working for the TSA? Are all these people telepathically combined into one overlord, who is a bufoon?

 

Your post reeks of extreme idiocy, self-righteousness, naivity, not to mention nastiness where you bash thousands of employees who handle millions of travellers a day because YOU managed to get a switchblade through 4 years ago. I won't even ask why the hell you would take a 7" knife through security anyway.  It looks like we should 'dissolve' every single agency, organization, and company on earth in that case, since there's fuckups and mistakes in every one, right? Maybe its better we just dissolve you, because you obviously lack any sense of rationality when you're so willing to smear a large group of diverse people. 

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Finally, the Government is stepping up and buying more advanced forms of computing.  I guees the Federal Government is turning into a bunch of switchers.  YEAH...

 

And what is Steve Ballmer doing?  Who?

 

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To Microsoft: "Be afraid. Be very afraid".

 

Don't believe for a second that this is a done deal. I worked with government contracts for many years and it is extremely difficult to get a "sole source" contract approved, especially for computers and peripherals. As knowledgeable technology users (generally speaking ;-), we know very well the technical and quality differences between an iPad and, oh say, a RIM Playbook or HP TouchPad. But to the government contracting bureaucracy, the looks and specifications are all the same.

 

And don't get me started on the undiluted steer excrement that TSA is trying to use as justification, assuming that what's shown in the article is correct. "…the agency said that nearly every government and commercial organization first releases apps for Apple's iOS and subsequently rolls out Android version of the same software." -- nice if true but I doubt it and I doubt it could be proved; and even if true, if the necessary apps are available on Android, then which came first is irrelevant. "…it was noted that Apple's OS X and iOS platforms are locked to hardware made by the company, thus no competing manufacturer exists."-- pure hogwash--like I already wrote above about the Playbook and TouchPad.

 

Hopefully no one takes my rant as any sort of criticism of Apple or Apple products. I have very, very little respect for the TSA as an organization, governmental or otherwise, and this article only reinforces my opinion.

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