Absinthe 2.0 jailbreaks most iDevices running iOS 5.1.1 - Page 2

 

I wasn't attempting to speak for you, or any one person in particular.

 

My point was that everybody jailbreaks for different reasons, and if Apple accommodated all of those options within iOS, it would just make the OS more like Android, which isn't what iPhone users want. Each person wants an OS which is fundamentally iOS, but customised for their own specific want.

 

We know the approximate number of jailbreakers already. Just get the piracy numbers and the others fall into place.

I personally don't care what the percentages are. I'm not the app police. If I want to jailbreak my iPad, that's exactly what I'm going to do. 

 

How do you know the approximate number of jailbreakers?

If I wanted a phone with no consistency, clumsy to use, and prone to malware, I'd just get an Android device in the first place.

Whatever floats your boat champ.

All jailbreaks install software like Cydia, so you could presumably get data on how many unique devices have accessed Cydia.

 

I see your point, but it depends what the 'piracy numbers' are. To get an accurate ratio of pirates to jailbreakers, you'd need to either collect figures from every paid app, or do a lot of dubious extrapolation. Otherwise, how do you know how many pirates there are?

Edited by Euphonious - 5/25/12 at 2:28pm

I'm certain Installous keeps records. They're the bragging type.

But do they count recurrent jailbreaks as one?

 

Installous is the app used to pirate apps… Nothing to do with jailbreaking itself.

 

Yeah, that would be interesting.

 

This wiki page suggests Installous has been installed on 'nearly 13 million different devices'. That might be a good place to start in figuring out the number of pirates, seeing as there's only really one reason to download Installous...

I assume he was pointing out that the correct word is "cue" not "que" :)

Son of a ...I...uh

 

For many people like me, this is great news for developers. Until I can jailbreak, I limit the number of apps I have. With the jailbreak, I'm willing to buy and install many more apps. I have 637 apps and without a jailbroken iPhone or iPad, it really sucks to keep them organized. Not to mention all the apps I'm able to buy through Cydia... those developers count too.

And yes, I don't have a single pirated app on any of my devices.

its easier then that all you need is plex as it can stream your content on you iMac to your phone and then you can throw it up to your big screen if you have an apple tv no need to even jail break as plex is an app on the app store and apple tv will allow you to stream the content through your iPhone or iPad and then it devise become your remote for plex.  http://www.plexapp.com/ check it out and let me know if that is what you wanted.  I don't work for plex or have anything to do with them I was just impressed with their app and setup was easy as pie.  App was $5 for iOS and free for mac OS X.  It is even in beta to allow you to stream content to your ps3 as well.

 

Bambam1648

Sigh...

No, there are many reasons to download Installous. Here are a couple:
1) To try before you buy.
2) To download a previous version of an app paid or free version that works where the new version doesn't due to some bug.
3) To download a fixed version of an app that was abandoned by the developer.

I've done all three of these and have 637 apps for my iPhones and iPads, and even more purchased (or free) from Cydia. Not a single one of my apps is pirated.

By the way you not only don't need Installous to pirate, you don't even need to jailbreak.

 

Blah, blah, blah, piracy.

Try before you buy would be a welcome addition to the App store. Pictures alone don't always give you a good indication of the how the app performs.

 

Abandoned apps should be taken off the app store or made to be free....I'm looking at you Kevin Bruton of the Quota app!

Last time I checked you can do that with iOS 5.

There may be many reasons to use Installous, but everyone I know uses it to pirate apps(steal). People even steal Cydia apps with the help of shady repos.

I personally don't mind paying a developer for his hard work. Many of my favorite apps don't fall within Apple's guidelines so I'm very thankful for Cydia - I have the best of both worlds.

It gives you more tones to choose from but you cant pick any tone you want.

Yes you can. You can create or record any sound you want on you pc and sync it to your iPhone. Google it.

Well indeed you can! Thanks for that, I just have always done it the jailbreak way thinking you couldn't do it any other way.

Quasar is one of my new favorite jailbreak apps - It allows true multitasking - I love this app. None of that app switching business for me:

 

You're welcome. It isn't something I usually do but found out about it by accident few days ago. Also, with iOS 5 you can assign custom text message alert for individual contacts. I use that a lot.

1) is piracy.  Even if you stop pirating by later buying the app, the initial use is still piracy. (I agree with the need for some try-before-buy feature, though, or at least a way to get an automatic refund if you delete an app within a short period.)

 

3) is piracy if you didn't pay for the app before it was abandoned.

2) is probably not piracy, but sounds like a bit of a fringe case.

Edited by Euphonious - 5/25/12 at 6:20pm

How about you come work for me for 14 days unpaid. If I like your work I might hire you!

I see nothing wrong with the Android method of a refund as long as it's within 15 minutes. This way it will let you test the app to see if it works for you.

The 15 minutes period is more for "I bought this app by accident" than testing the app. You really can't test an app in 15 minutes unless it is $0.99 type of app.

I think you can if you are looking for certain functionality. A good example is a Office app with Google Docs integration. Some of them handle Google Docs better than others.

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Install XBMC on Apple TV.  Play movies from your NAS (I use a NAS rather than my Mac or PC to save energy costs) directly to your Apple TV, no need for transcoding as XBMC will play most formats including ISO's and VOBs. No need to go thru the iPad as it will go directly to the Apple TV.

Edited by theskivvys - 5/25/12 at 8:56pm

Actually VLC Streamer is a much better product if you want to stream to your Apple TV without jail-breaking.  No need to go thru another device such as an iPad or iPhone so you save energy and hassle. Stream & transcode ISO's or other formats directly to Apple TV, iPod etc using the fantastic VLC player. You can even download a whole movie/tv show to your iPhone or iPad to watch on the go. I don;t work for VLC streamer either.

I am not against trial periods. I am against forcing every developer to give free trials of his apps. The current in-app purchase system offer developers an options to offer free trial period. Many developers are using it that way.

Would you agree that 15 mins wouldn't hurt anyone? That why the user actually buys the app and gets a refund if it doesn't workout. 

I have a 16gb GDSM (Verizon) iPhone 4 running IOS 5.1.1 which has never been jailbroken... I have a G5 iMac and attempted to run absinthe 2.0.1 to jailbreak it for the first time (It will launch on a PPC Mac)... I ran absinthe and followed the apps directions and had problems when it was attempting to finish and all it did was restore the phone. Am I doing something wrong or is it that I am attempting to do this on a non Intel Mac? Also, this evening, I was finally able to get into the absinthe website and followed their instructions for first timers and got the same results... Any suggestions?

 

 

 

Hi guys,

 

Thanks for that great info! I'm going to check out Plex, XBMC and VLC Player! 

 

Before checking back here, I have discovered an application called ServeToMe and StreamToMe (info).

I've been playing around with it and so far it has been great! I can now stream from my iMac to my iPhone 4S and it encodes on the fly. It currently supports the TV Out cable so I could hook up my iPhone to my TV.

 

VLC Streamer seems like a great way to go in order to bypass the iPhone and not Jailbreak at all.

 

I will definitely check out the other recommendations.

 

I like the idea of a NAS drive to store Movies and send all around the house. What in your opinion is a reliable NAS drive for Mac (my router is a Belkin F7D4301 Play Max).

 

Thanks again for your help guys!

Jailbroke my iPad 3 early yesterday morning. I don't pirate apps. I simply ungimp iOS. Now that I have file system access, I can be much more productive. Being able to upload or freely download in Safari opens up a plethora of new functionality which will further eliminate my dependence on a laptop or Android device.

You're assuming piracy with intent of malice here.

1) (Try before you buy) Is only piracy with malice if it extended beyond trying or no purchase was made. Any actual real trying before buying only helps developers. The only time it hurts them is if it isn't actually trying before buying. I rarely try before I buy myself, but I have done it with expensive apps that have no free trial version or in-app upgrade to the full app.

3) What the hell kind of comment is that? Ya, it's piracy if it's piracy and it's not if it's not. If you paid for it or if it was free then of course it's not pirated. The point is that Installous is one way of getting abandoned apps that you may have paid for or were free to begin with.

2) "fixed versions", ya, again, it's not piracy if you paid for it already or it's a free app. Again no "wrong" is being done here. Nobody is hurt.

The bottom line is that jailbreaking does not equal piracy, and it's not even required for piracy. Furthermore, piracy enabling apps like Installous have uses that have nothing to do with piracy and can in some use cases actually help developers.

Not only do I have 637 apps, not one of which has been pirated (in any way), but I don't know a single jailbreaker who does pirate beyond the 3 cases (if that) that I mentioned before. The reality of pirating for iOS is that it's really just not worth it for actually direct real pirating of apps to get out of paying for them. Bugs, upgrade problems and so forth just doesn't make it worth most people's interest. The only exception to that (beyond the 3 cases I could think of) is with kids who I can't imagine would be buying apps to begin with.

The best thing that could be done to stop piracy is:
1) For Apple to allow for a "trial period flag" where developers could set the time period of trial before the app was disabled.
2) To allow apps to be reverted to previous versions.
3) To encourage developers not to abandon their apps, but if they do, allow the app to be transferred to a new developer who has purchased (or been given) the rights from the original developer.